Are these made in italy or portugal? raf moved shit back to italy right?

are these made in italy or portugal? raf moved shit back to italy right?

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italy

ty but how do you know?

why does it matter to you? do you think that people in italy can work a sewing machine and handle glue better than people in portugal?

because i've heard the ones made in portugal are inferior quality wise to the italy ones (they're shinier etc.) and i just wanted to be sure.
i dont understand what the difference is between
this

farfetch.com/shopping/men/raf-simons-hook-loop-hi-tops-item-11850952.aspx?storeid=9393&from=1&ffref=lp_pic_52_6_

and this

farfetch.com/shopping/men/raf-simons-hook-loop-straps-hi-tops-item-11577635.aspx?storeid=9352&from=1&ffref=lp_pic_84_8_

why is there a 200$ price difference?

same shoe, diff lighting, two diff stores selling it hence the difference pricing

ah ok ty. sorry if im overthinking it just want to make sure i get what i want if im paying 500+ for a shoe

I have them

by the looks of it the metal on the shoe is a different colour, the leather is probably of a higher quality also. looks a bit more expensive.

youre talking about the 850$ one?

the leather just looks different because of the lighting, no?

I owned 4 different pairs and difference is not big

I bought a pair from Italy a couple of weeks ago and an annoying thing is that the metal eyelets rips the leather where it lies against the metal edges. Has any of you guys done anything to counter this or does it just happen to everyone?

do they fit true to size? i heard they run big

I dunno, I bought the same size as my CP achilles and they fit perfecty. Like they seem to be a really comfortable pair of shoes once you've walked a couple of thousand steps in them

if i am a size 11.5/12 in converse what size do i get?

Back when I owned velcros I saw this happen early on so I took an iron file and grinded down the metal part to smooth it over

Ditto.

Shout-out to kettil, thanks for selling me your pair.

Yep I did the same

aight thanks guys, I'll do the same. Did the leather get really fucked up or did it stay like it was?

damn really? how much did you have to file it?

I didn't noticed this early so the tongue is a little scratched but its not noticeable and now the eyelet doesnt rips anymore, i just filed the edges

ok is that only a problem on the bottom ones?

damn I only wore mine for like a week and they're already more fucked up than that. cheers for the tip tho

dude what the fuck

you pay $400 + on these shoes and they are fucking rusting on the inside

thats bullshit