Eternal best college major / education to make a jizzillion dollars thread

It didnt hit me until my second year. People would ask me what Im majoring in and when I said electrical it'd usually be met with okay or something anticlimactic like that. Meanwhile business majors are fawned all over. All those STEM memes (including this picture) are a huge lie. I wish people would stop propagating them.

stemfag memes/fantasies

lol, at my uni business majors are looked down upon because we know it is an easy major.

I think this list isn't based on income, it seems like it is based on difficulty of the major and perceived usefulness to society. I don't why mathematics is so high up there. It is a difficult as fuck major, but the job prospects are shit.
lol you are just trying to discourage people from doing your major.

here is some real advice to all. Major in what your passionate about. It could be art history, but if you really do have a passion for it and want to bring art to the public or create amazing art, you will do fine.
The fuck ups are the people who go into a major with no passion and expect that the world will hand them a decent paying job.

If you have no passion, go learn a trade or some other form of labor that is paid decently.

This applies to me, am I falling for a meme?

>finance is booming
theguardian.com/business/2013/may/30/goldman-sachs-internship-applications

>theguardian.com/business/2013/may/30/goldman-sachs-internship-applications
I though the headline was in the url
>Goldman Sachs receives 17,000 applications for internship programme
>The bank hired 350 interns out of the 17,000 applicants

Getting a BigLaw job (the only kind that pays ~180 after bonuses) is still like a 50/50 shot out of a place like Georgetown, though the odds get better as you go up the list, of course. But most people don't go to the T14 schools. They go to a shithole or a strong regional university, from where they have virtually no chance at that kind of money, and many of whom end up being entirely unemployed. On top of that, it's an extra three years of school compared to engineering.

Engineer (aerospace) here.

I made it to Engineering Manager of a world known firm simply because the majority of Engineers being churned out of universities are
a) lazy
b) know-it-all types who don't actually know jackshit
c) combinations of a) and b) who come from shit schools and know fuck all
c) Pajeet types who have a),b) and c) types. The engineer Indians typically come from a "better" cast and expect to be treated as such, but are in reality a pile of frauds. Never hire anyone from outside the West.

Like CS, all the above weigh down the average engineer salary.

Put your head down and learn a lot as a junior engineer. Work the hours, take the shit, but learn from it all. Learn VBA too, it's invaluable as an engineer. Office politics are as important in an engineering bureau as engineering work. Get your Professional Engineering status by learning all thi

Protip, you won't make it past "senior engineer" without delving spending time in operations either.

Fire away if you have questions

>georgeTTTown

youtube.com/watch?v=uuL6cJPz3Nk

Couldn't break 170?

Fucking pic is modified every time someone downloads it, I swear,

>brings up t14 schools
>makes fun of me when i use one as an example

Go for what you enjoy.
If you don't hate the idea of modeling things in CAD all day, go for an engineering job.

Stop picking shit you hate because it makes money because you're going to end up leaving it eventually if you do.

t. incel white shitposter going to local community college

You can't argue with ethos without establishing your credibility*. Post proof of your job/target school.

*of which you have none.

>CHOOSE A NORMAL MAJOR LIKE FINANCE OR ECON
>ECON

>majoring in Political Science
>planning on going to law school
>get shit on by everyone, for not taking engineering/finance

feelsbadman.jpb

oh look, the local doubting Thomas.

> white
Brings to question your ethnicity, doesn't it? I've interviewed Pajeet after Pajeet (this is Canada after all) and I've only made the mistake of hiring one (see above learning from mistakes). The poor chap seemed to know basic modelling and FEA so I had him hired. That was it for him - he made it and thought he could afford to sit back and drink Starbucks/Tims slurpys at his desk all day. He never made it past probation.

With the exception of a very few, I've found non-white Engineers to be absolutely drastic. Ironically, the two of the best engineers I know, and sadly I don't work with, are white South Africans. A good engineer will create a solution that fits within a 40 hr work week - not 24/7 work. Firms can't afford to pay the OT and won't if they have the choice. Pakis,chinks and niggers are not wrought to be engineers. They neither have the creativity to model an innovative solution nor the willpower to see it through.

I feel so hard familia. Graduating as CS this year and literally have been considering an hero. I feel like I threw away my future over a fucking meme.

What's wrong with econ?

Hey man, I'm on summer vacay right now and I'm sending out resumes to get an internship or coop position. Any advice you can give me on like beginners mistakes/resumes/interview tips? Thanks in advance.

Ebin advice, senpai. About to graduate and this gives me hope.

Quesiton: what is operations?

>finance is booming

Yeah I'd stick to engineering user because you clearly have zero financial acumen

Goldman Sachs is not the only financial institution there is, its just that it's popular and lot of people apply there hoping for a job. Harvard gets thousands of applicants too and has to reject most of them, yet that doesnt mean that 90%+ of students are unable to attend college.

You are falling for it sadly and so am I. If you can get out Id recommend you to. I have two semesters left to finish up my EE major and its too late to change anything now. I hope my parents will have mercy and agree to finance my MBA too.

Pick any job related to finance/econ/accounting and you'll see that's all of these fields are growing while engineering jobs are stagnating. There is money to be made in software engineering (aka compsci and such) but not for long, and there is no money to be made in EE. If you live in the US, financial services is a way to go. If you live in Africa then you should do EE so you can get that H1B and come to work in the US.

I seriously doubt Ill ever get a job in EE and I most definitely regret deciding to major in EE, I shouldve focused on getting into a good financial school instead.

The grass is always greener

If you weren't such a weak inferior person you wouldn't be posting in this thread about your failures

Is it difficult compared with other engys?

>The grass is always greener
Except there is no grass on my side and yours is actually a jungle.

I wish I could go back in time and slap some sense into me. My hope is that at least my math background will help me once I decide to move to the financial sector. I hear all these stories about engineers being hired by various firms to do algorithms, analysis or whatnot which kind of makes me hopeful.

You're not gonna make it

The problem isn't your degree, it's your character you fucking manchild weeb.

>If you weren't such a weak inferior person you wouldn't be posting in this thread about your failures

Honestly Im just hoping to help some of the HS kids here who are on the fence about their major make the right choice. As I said, finance is much less intense than engineering which is why I recommend double majoring in math. You'll technically be able to compute anything an engineer does (and more) but you won't have to learn all the other stuff.

>The problem isn't your degree, it's your character you fucking manchild weeb.

Its hard to feel hopeful when you have 0 job prospects.

You would have failed regardless of your major. You are the problem.

>hard to feel hopeful
Neck yourself then you weak faggot

How about you fuck off you degenerate? What is your major?

Information systems here. Where do I fit in? I don't know whether I go in the same tier as business or IT.

Reminder that Aerospace Engineering majors can intern in the City and become investment bankers straight out of university.

Same same phamilia

I have degrees in EE and Physics and I work in EE now. That should tell you something.

How is everything going so far?

Well my EE degree is from a top program and I'm good at what I do, so I'm fine. It's true that the payscale doesn't go up quite as nicely as CS does, or finance for that matter, but I like what I do.

i work in EE and its great
the only thing i see people bitching about is that it salary caps out in THE MID 100Ks
the fucking NEETs on here have never made more than minimum wage so i realize the concept of income is difficult for them to understand but an engineer getting paid 100k for 40 hours a week and a finance guy getting paid 200k for 80 hours a week IS THE SAME PAY

also if its oversaturated i dont know it
the number of engineers that graduate on time with good grades and internships must be tiny

that feel when no major interests you.

I was considering geology for a while, but the market is dried up too so I hear.

Really though the geology class I took was the only one that somewhat interested me while getting my AA...even that not so much

Now I have my AA, no debt, some money in the bank from a deployment, and a free ride for my undergrad and masters through the National Guard

I could do a trade, but they take at least 2 years of apprenticeship...plus I already have my AA so might as well get my bachelors and masters

What should I major in Veeky Forums?
If you say follow your passion, well the only thing that has been of interest to me over the past few years is going SF. I'm already infantry and have been training real hard... I've talked to some SF and they can end up getting gigs working for intelligence agencies... hm I dk Veeky Forums

inb4 die for Israel

Geology is dried up to say the least. Though the market always goes up and down after all. I specialized in geochemistry and went for mining - which is doing a bit better than O&G at the moment. I know a lot of people going for their MSc now while waiting for things to clear up.

If you decide to go for geology, make sure you pick up courses in hydrology. It's more useful than you'd think.

Alright good to know. thanks.

dentistry

>If you decide to go for geology, make sure you pick up courses in hydrology.
why?
that is actually what I want to specialize in.

I'm going into geology, I don't even hear that many bad things about the career prospects. I have a genuine passion for exploring what is under the earth and working with natural resources. I decided to specialize in hydrology because it is the most valuable natural resource.

I used to be a comp sci major, but that shit is so god awful imo, and working for google is such a meme.

You don't need the best job. Just one that nets you enough money to play with in investing.

Mech and aero are very similiar. Aerospace systems as a whole tend to be more complicated, but it's rare that a junior engineer will focus on more than a small aspect of the aircraft.

The job market is also more volatile - aerospace goes through cycles. We have just come out of a design phase and have entered a production phase. This will continue for the next ten years, when the maintenance market will pick up, and then back to the design phase. A lot of designers are being laid off and manufacturing/methods engineers are in demand.

This is a faux pas - there is very different in terms of education between aerospace, mechanical, biomedical except for perception.

Production, manufacturing.

The experience counts, and a lot of the folk I graduated with went to work with the same company they did internships with. Apply to all the big shots - Rolls Royce, Boeing, Airbus, Safran, UTC. A key point that many university students don't know about is that aerospace is comprised in a hierarchy as follows - airframer (Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, etc), Tier One suppliers (Goodrich, Messier, Rolls Royce, Triumph, GE, etc. who supply large components such as landing gear, wings, engines, fuselages), Tier Two (who supply the Tier One) and so on. Airframers are assemblers (they put the parts together) and Suppliers are nearly always manufacturing. Aim for Airframers and Tier One.

Contract companies will also work directly with Airframers and you have the chance of gaining real experience in an airframer. These contract companies are not very popular, their turnover is high and so is the workload. But you do get real world experience working directly in an airframer which is what young engineers often need. Likely they'll have you working as a Project Engineer rather than hard maths.

MROs are a different side, as are airline operations. MROs are gritty work, airline work is cut-throat, irregular hours, and not great pay.

>Computer engineer
>Higher than computer science
What even.

How about you just have passion for what you do and let the millions role in instead of obsessing about if you got memed in the ass. Love what you do and people will cuck

You are the epitome of naivety

Your the epitome of mediocracy faggot

*you are

how embarrassing

>knowledge of computer architecture, hardware, and software vs. Pajeet codemonkey
Ok, pal.

More like jack of all trades master of none

*naivete

how embarassing

> acute e
> umlaut
It's like you are doing this on purpose

No, see, that would have been autistic. You're just a pedant who also happens to be retarded.

I definitely fell for the engineering meme, now I'm trying to transfer schools but it's hard because muh grade deflation. The material is p bad if you're not interested in it but by far the worst part of engineering is the people involved with it. The smugness was unbearable

How bad can it be on the inside? I'm a psych major so I've gotten more than my share of engineering major smugness. Especially on /r9k/ back when I frequented it. Thank God I don't go there at all anymore.

It's mostly just your typical Reddit STEMlords, with some normie types thrown in because guidance counselors are pushing like every decently smart person into engineering. The thing that bugged me was that no one had any real interests outside of school and like video games and shit. Maybe it's just because I went to a big state school, but I honestly felt like engineering was making me into a more boring person

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Jesus all these kids who are getting upset at STEM because it isn't a "get 100k starting job with no competition free card". News flash: There's gonna be competition and struggle no matter what you do. Do what you like (within reason) and be the best you can be at it, that's all you can do.

Don't just get angry when you run into a slight bump in the road. You only "fell for the STEM meme" if you picked the major because everyone told you it was good and not because you love it.

the only career that i can see making 100k+ a year consistently at the get go is medical

>taxes
>debt
Good luck getting 100K out of that.

Most doctors make ~140K before taxes and work a lot. If you're not a specialist, you're fucked. At least the pensions are usually good.

>I can't switch now
Well punned. Giggity.

>marketing
>meh tier

Pick one faggot. Get a bachelor's in marketing with a minor in basic ass monkey coding and you'll have a guaranteed 100k+ a year job at any respectable company in a non shit big city doing web promotion and shit. It's literally so easy for the money.

Tai Lopez?

I fucking kek'd

They need to stop pushing stem so hard then. Im mad that they lied to me, not because im not making 100k.

Marketing is hard, I like something thats not as abstract.

comp sci is pretty much majoring in getting outsourced.

>1. Stem is oversaturated
Says who? How so?
>2. Poor industry growth (meanwhile finance is booming)
Lolwat?
>3. Engineering jobs don't pay that much (Your salary follows a log curve, meaning you may start at $70k entry, but you will be making $75k 10 years down the line while in finance you might start at $50k but can easily move up to $150k+ in the same amount of time)
So save more when your starting out, get dat compound interest from banks or stocks instead of from assumed promotions
>4. Stem majors and especially engineers and Comp sci majors are not respected anymore (nobody shows you respect and being an engineer is nothing to be proud of today, your job is not prestigious or impressive as it used to be - look anywhere and youll see people making nerd and autist jokes)
If you decide what job you want based on what others think of you, you're not mature enough to decide on a career anyways
>5. Finance majors get cooler job titles
How many Lamborghini's can I buy with my cool points again?

I got accepted to Cal Poly Pomona for Computer Engineering. How fucked am I at getting a job when I am competing with people?

Change your major while you still can.

That's the college I go to. Engineering is pretty reputable there but many people I know who were that major had switched.

Was there a reason as to why they switched?

This. Memes will literally be your profession.

>electrical engineer
>god tier

You fell for the meme.

I'm actually in Automotive Engineering which I should have mentioned but Aerospace has always been an alternative that I'd be interested in. I'll assume the same advice about applying to big name companies but I don't have much experience and it feels like I can never get an interview. Then again I've had colleagues who've applied to hundreds of jobs before getting that lucky interview.

Something with fulling math reqs and graduating sooner. One switched to comp. sci. and the other to accounting/some business shit. I guess it was kind of a pointless thing to say but I felt obligated to reply.

Don't go Medical. The fact you're worried about money disqualifies you for that path. There are much easier ways to make money. Not to mention you'll graduate anywhere from 250k-400k in debt depending which specialty you choose to pursue. Not to mention you won't graduate from school till your around 26, and for most specialties you'll in residency training till probably 30. After that you can expect to make a decent living of 150k+. The money will only really start rolling in when you open your own practice (unless you stayed in training till 40 for Plastics and Reconstructive surgery or the such). But that's assuming you make it into Medical school on your first try, which the acceptance rates for most hang around 5%. Not to mention you also might get caught dead in residency where you made it through medical school but can't find a training position to become an actual licensed physician. This is also overlooking the fact that you are giving up your prime decade to 7 days a week of all day all night studying and prepping for the next test to pass or person to impress. Also, you have to be prepared to be sued often throughout the rest of your life for attempting to help that same person. This is a path for absolute idiots who want to help the common man for some ridiculous reason. I'm one of those idiots who just got accepted into med school. I'm 22 years old, and I'm already 50k in debt with a useless biology pre medical degree. The last 4 years I've volunteered 2000+ hours of my life to free labor.
If I could go back and tell myself to change my mind, I'd say fuck it, buy a $10,000 lawn mower, a $300 weed eater, a $500 blower, a $10,000 3/4 ton truck with a $5,000 trailer and mow yards for a living, easily making $150k+ a year for working from 6am-2pm. or whatever the fuck hours you want because you work for yourself and you weren't a dumb fuck who went to college like everyone said to do.
#FirstWorldProblems

As a CS major who wishes he'd done pre-med, let me tell you the grass is always greener. You are going to make big bank doctor money no matter where you choose to live. I am stuck in the shit tier bay area if I hope to make a meaningful salary, where my salary is cancelled out by the high COL anyway.

Oh well,
I just wish I wasn't going fucking insane with regret for trying to help people and going into a health profession.
You can still freelance, you can do a whole ton of shit.

CS majors, ne prepared to be outsourced to pajeet.

CS is literally the easiest thing to outsource, programming requires the least intelligence of any STEM career.

EE is a far more theoretical subject and thus the number of poo in loos competent in it at the graduate level is much less.

>Thinking you're going to high roll with an engineering degree.

All that talk of huge amounts of money being made right out school are wrong.

You don't make the classic
>60k starting
Until you have like a masters in a sub-specialty and at least 5 years experience on the job.

Competition to breach the 20$ an hour labor market has become utterly outrageous, and will stay outrageous from here on out.

The actual starting salaries of most engineers are usually in the ballpark of ~40-45,000 a year, and that's for a 50 to 60 hour week.

So your actual hourly pay is in the teens, once you factor in the "overtime" coefficient.

>finance is booming
Source?
As far as I know, they are laying thousands of people off in finance. Only Chinese finance sector is booming, European finance has the biggest problems and American finance is barely doing "meh" right now.

There's really good money in fixing the stuff that pajeet fucked up, especially on a short time frame.

princeton grad here
college is worthless
until wikipedia and the rest start charging 1000 dollars a month to access information on the web, paying 50 thousand dollars a year to learn what you could learn for free is a ridiculous waste..
steve eisman (see steve baum>played by steve carell in the big short) calls the student loan fiasco "subprime goes to college" for good reason..
do i regret graduating princeton? no... its one of the top 3 unversities on the planet
would i regret graduating some fashonista joke like gw or au for 10k more a year than princetons tuition? fuck yeah id regret it...
being a doctor these days is retarded anyways...
in med school they tell you to memorize a few thousand pages worth of textbooks just because the doctor professors are bitter about the fact they all lost their looks/hair back when they suffered in med school themselves... theres no reason to memorize something you can look up in a second..
pretty soon there is going to be a symptom flow chart app/program that allows doctors in mexico to make better life saving decisions than a yale med school professor with 25 yrs exp...
the future of med school will be finding the true geniuses out there who can best use the systems/apps that will save more patients lives...
its like doing calculus with pen and paper and not using a graphing calculator> you still need to understand the fundamentals, but theres no reason to make ur life harder
also, if you think med school means anything, look at this joke of a medical school in one rundown old shit hole building in harlem
(tourocom osteopathic school)

I don't know anything about you, but from this post alone I can tell you that you are NOT a Princeton grad.

what about expanding your skill set to become a better engineer.
like learning drafting and design
architechture
gettting a welding certification
learning about cnc and other fabrication techniques
becoming a brick layer/mason/carpenter

unless they cover all this shit in your engineering program.

Where are you? Sounds absolutely retarded.

I was making 18-20$/hr as a summer student. 60k outta school.

Hell, train engineers get more than that. Move somewhere better dude.

Good luck. I went to shool for architectural drafting and design. I got an associates in Drafting technology. Upon learning cad and revit, what they don't teach you is codes. I was making 25k as a draftsman for two years. That's shit wages for a shit degree and there are zero jobs hiring for it. Go to school for soemthin that hires way more frequent.