Is anarcho-capitalism workable? Or should we all be Communists?

>communism
>working
Doesn't work with or without faith.

>But I don't own any capital. I just have a brain.
Evidently not.

>hasn't worked
>therefore it shall never work
Nice.

>hasn't worked
>"We just have to believe and try harder ;)))))"

>can't find a solution
>throw hands in air and give up
Kek.

>hasn't been tried meme
No, it has been tried, guess what? Guess fucking what? It didn't work. When the Anabaptist in Muenster tried it, guess what happened, polygamy, starvation, corruption. We don't even need to talk about the secular shit because you already know.
Also, to note, the Anabaptist in Muenster are the first ones to do something commie related.

>muh largely unimpacted social relations
>muh commodity production
>muh state

>communism
>working
It worked. It was no coincidence that in 1950's the fastest growing economies in the world were the socialist ones DESPITE the USA pumping money into Western Europe.

Then it stopped working and failed to adapt.

You mean the USSR playing "work you get shot in the head" game?

hahahahahaha bro, I never said it had never been tried, it's never worked.

>implying humans fucking up a system is the fault of the system and not the humans fucking it up
Nice.

>Keeps trying even though trying means creating a shit-show authoritarian state that kills everyone who disagrees, plus fucking shit up even more for the people who he claims to be helping
Kek.

>never
>tried
It has been tried, and it fails.

>I haven't read worth shit

"With the recognition of the proletarian character of the October Revolution must come the realization that the Bolshevik party, which was in the forefront of the international left defending revolutionary class positions during the First World War and in 1917, was a proletarian party of the revolutionary wave. With the defeat of the international working class uprisings, the isolated Russian bastion suffered a counter-revolution from within and the Bolshevik party, the leaders of the international communist left in 1919, degenerated into a party of the bourgeois camp."

>implying this is related to the fault of communism, and not the few people who tried it and failed.

Keep going.

What are you even doing?

Telling you goddamn proddy shits that communism is a lie.

we just need to do it again, totes will work this time

I don't know, man, I've studied the history and theory of Communism a good bit, it just doesn't seem feasible or even desirable.
>inb4 you tell me to read some specific passage in Capital because it'll change my worldview

Are you unironically this stupid.

Are you unironically supporting heresy?

>y-you're just stupid
let me read the future.
you're going to post a fedora reaction image and try redirecting me to /pol/.

Communism is literally the perfect form of government, it's people who fuck it up that are at fault.

Bro, that's not even me (the guy you were arguing with). You are just that idiotic.

Shut up faggot, that user you just responded to isn't me.

just too bad governments require people to run.

oh if only things were perfect and humankind was free of faults.

Communists are just genocidal maniacs who want an excuse to smash baby skulls against the wall like Pol Pot.

Just look at leftypol, they are pretty much LARPing 24/7 about hanging rich people, and martyr fantasies of "dying for the cause".

Commies get really upset when they don't have people to murder.

never said it has never been tried. I'm not even communist I just find it stupid that he couldn't understand such a basic thing. It has nothing to do with ideology.

Meant not

no, "dispute resolution organizations" would immediately become warlords, begin brutally oppressing those under them and fight among themselves

youtube.com/watch?v=3Ha4ea53UGI

oops meant to link to OP

it works but the result is something more along the lines of feudalism

>just too bad governments require people to run.
Are you really trying to tell me out of the countless amount of people who have lived none of them could have ran a successful communist government?

>ywn be part of the Church and be the Pope ruling the land, fucking over the monarch trying to make sure they bow down towards you
Fucking hold me Veeky Forums, hold me like I'm dying.

>it's people who fuck it up that are at fault.
>THIS COMPUTER WOULD WORK PERFECTLY IF IT DIDN'T HAVE TO PROCESS ANY INFORMATION

Yes

Well then you are an idiot.

>y-you're just stupid
let me read the future.
you're going to post a fedora reaction image and try redirecting me to /pol/.

The stock commieposter response.

Nice projection, there is literally nothing else you can say to you. That's how idiotic it was, you are simply ignorant, you're an idiot.

Enjoy your shit life.

>tfw the Children under Pol Pot didn't kill him and installed this idea of only children living

Shut up faggot, that user you just responded to isn't me.

>he didn't read the comment chain
Truly an ignorant capitalist.

Don't steal my line you goddamn proddy.

The problem with anarcho-capitalism is its defense methods.

Since it has no government to run the army, it will just get invaded by a government who does.

However, I've heard the argument that it will have private armies which reminds me of Shadowrun where corporations had their own armies.

Which means either the private armies will fight amoung themselves or one comes out on top and then the owner of the army decides to be the government and none of the true anarcho-capitalists can do anything about it.

Nice projection, there is literally nothing else you can say to you. That's how idiotic it was, you are simply ignorant, you're an idiot.

Enjoy your shit life.

How am I projecting when I was first one to say it? Do you even understand why communism doesn't work?
Even if you back it through "God" it will not work.

Well then you are an idiot.

Because I think communism doesn't work?

Bro, that's not even me (the guy you were arguing with). You are just that idiotic.

Why does she sit like that?

What are you even doing?

Because I don't want a faggot using my goddamn line and acting like he's me on anonymous image board.

Maybe her butt hurts

>he didn't read the comment chain
Truly an ignorant capitalist.

What are you even doing?

ayn rand hated ancaps

Don't steal my line you goddamn proddy.

Which one, because I'm the one trying to tell you, dirty commies, that hasn't worked ever.

>said the stealing proddy
What the fuck is your faith?

Why does she sit like that?

it works but the result is something more along the lines of feudalism

You mean Ancap shit?

The stock commieposter response.

I'm not a goddamn commie, I'm simple God fearing man who wants to defend the Church from all harmful people.

>hasn't worked
>"We just have to believe and try harder ;)))))"

hmm

Are you bullying me?

Yes

Why ;_;

>muh largely unimpacted social relations
>muh commodity production
>muh state

Are you defending Communism?

If there is no government, then there would be no one to protect monopolies and the populace could take up arms against corporations/monopolies they view as harmful.

No, it's
>muh Church
>muh don't bully it
>muh fuck off proddy polygamist
No

Communism is literally the perfect form of government, it's people who fuck it up that are at fault.

But that's wrong.

and that would be a violating of all the NAP shit and not anarcho capitalism but rather pure anarchism

Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

>communists
>good
No.

Y-you're bullying me again ;_;

Communism will only occur through socialism, which can only occur through capitalism.

this is an organic process, not one to be forced, the situation will emerge at a point due to the inherent nature of capitalism and its effects.

Bolsheviks and Maoists and etc. are all arrogant fools, they think they alone can "Plan" a society. Like a real-estate developer who thinks they can create "planned" communities (which just end up being slightly upmarket suburb/subdivisions), it's missing the sheer necessities of chaos, of things being built one on top of another, of layers and blending and trial and error, it's missing the need for history and context.

Heck we can see Marx vindicated when we look overseas and see in developing countries, populations adopting similar lifestyles to ours, (eating burgers/chicken-nuggets, listening to pop-music and being hedonistic consumerists). They're becoming alienated from their traditional lifestyles, just like our ancestors were a few generations ago. Communism is only possible through global capitalism. There are weak backwards countries that have rural tribal populations and are all divided, industry and capitalism will unite these countries, and wash away the old, superstitious indigenous cultures with the horrible fires of urbanization, and land consolidation. We see china beginning to outsource to Africa.

They will fight, they will fight hard against it, even those who claim to be "leftists" or "marxists" in the west will fight this process. But this process is inevitable, its due to the infectious nature of global capitalism. These "leftist" fools think that communism and socialism can be created in agricultural backwards societies, when doesn't work. Socialism needs capitalism to develop industry, to develop the economy (which has drawbacks, pollution, alienation, bad working conditions), but also develop the culture of the common peasant.

Yes

I was taking a shit btw

On my dreams to teach the world about why communism sucks?

oops meant to link to OP

No you didn't.

fuck off, ray

Who the fuck is Ray?

Are you unironically this stupid.

Why are you trying to bully me? Do you get off to people tears?

>Communists

No.

Capitalism is the best form of getting third world countries out of the dirt.

I do believe that Capitalism, mixed with elements of socialism can create god-tier nations with economic prosperity and can grant those of lower classes a better opportunity of rising.

Wether they choose to take said opportunities is entirely up to them.

>can't find a solution
>throw hands in air and give up
Kek.