Why are there no more great philosophers? Is philosophy dead?

Does anyone deny he's the greatest philosopher since Socrates?

Philosophy is the most masculine discipline. Men are becoming less masculine and philosophy being seen in worse light.

If inspiring shitposting on Veeky Forums was the measure of a great philosopher then he is undoubtedly be the greatest philosopher of all time, other than spook guy of course.

If his philosophy is anything like his games i don't want to hear about it.

ok /v/

Go to bed Stefan you hack

>great
that's a spook, son

>do you think a philosopher could have determined for humanity the empirical data that confirmed that time does not flow, but exists in a 4 dimensional block?

I'm shit at science, please explain?

Science is the new fad. It's a community filled with self righteous and vain snarky types. Attention seekers. Anything remotely addressing what's inside man's heart is mocked.

I may be over critical and exercising improper judgement, it's just it bothers me when some big bang watching, bazinga spouting, self righteous jerk undermines man's soul and the spirit in the name of being able to only state the obvious.

In my opinion that's all science is. You're examining the stuff that already exists. I'm not saying that's not utterly fascinating, but it has no bearing on us, it has no bearing on the human heart, it has no impact on changing the world believe it or not. If anything, science is a tool box at best. It's completely directed, shifted, positioned, manipulated, put into position by way of a man's motives and what he has set on his heart.

There are lots of philosophers out there who surpass many of the 'greats' in terms of insight and creativity, the problem is your not reading them because your a fag that only wants to give the appearance of intelligence because you know the 'greats'. Its like asking what happened to all the great scientists, why can no one rival Pasteur or Mendeleev. Go fuck yourself OP.

>Chomsky
>Singer

Fuck no.

My vote would go to Quentin Meillassoux.

>>this hilariously stupid post

You are alive right now because of medical science, the computer and internet connection you are using to post this garbage exists ultimately due to scientific research.

Show some respect, you ingrate.

>this hilariously stupid post

You are able to express yourself so freely because of various social and philosophical ideas, education and democracy which enabled you to post this garbage exists ultimately because of ideology and philosophy.

Show some respect, you ingrate

This is still Stefan Molyneaux of Freedomain Radio :)

>bow down before mighty science
eat shit

Eh...almost, but not quite user.

Women used to give birth in mud huts and none of what you argue on behalf of has any bearing on the human heart. All of what you argue on behalf of just shortens the distances at which we can interact with each other.

Man's heart still remains as the driving force behind actions. Not science. Now exercise some tolerance, don't be offended, and understand I'm not taking anything away from the significance of the sciences. It's just modern technology or no modern technology, man's heart still reigns as the driving force. Science itself is at the mercy of man's heart.

I know it sounds like I'm drawing a line in the sand, but I'm just opposed to holding the sciences in too high of regard. Again, as fascinating as they are.

It won't be evident which philosophers stand the test of time until time has passed. Philosophy isn't dead but is changing away from metaphysics towards ethics and morality.

Pic definitely not a great philosopher

Yes and? I never said enlightenment philosophy was bad.

No u, manbitch.

>>Women used to give birth in mud huts
And had a much higher mortality rate for both mother and child.

>>Man's heart still remains as the driving force behind actions. Not science.
You mean our minds, right? Sure we still ultimately have some rather base desires, but at the end of the day we have a better quality of life in the here and the now then we ever did before. Science has a lot to do with why we have that higher quality of life.

>a mans heart

lol what a fag. good luck trying to define that shit.

The expression of zizek is just a fantastic fit.

>muh Zizek

No. He is the furthest thing from a philosopher. He brings nothing new to the table.

He's a mouthbreathing retard who just keeps spewing Hegel and Marx like an autist and has become a meme thanks to internet culture and millenials.

Fuck that fat fuck.

Philosophy and science generally address different issues, particularly regarding matters which lack easily quantified data.

Not to mention both use one another. Philosophers regularly make use of scientific data to make their arguments, and philosophical theories regularly offer questions / assertions which scientists try to quantify and answer.

One thing I really fucking hate about lots of STEMs is their obsession with insisting everything else except their professions are irrelevant or obsolete. It's like it always has to be a contest, it's a really bizarre us vs them mentality. A lot of scientists' work would benefit from zooming out from their massive overspecialisation and get a bit of breadth.

>And had a much higher mortality rate for both mother and child.
Given your stance in this discussion, do you believe in over population as being a potential problem then? Anyways, you see, the fear of death doesn't really sway me in any direction in relation to this discussion, but at the same time without my life I wouldn't be able to act out my heart (or mind in your opinion).

>You mean our minds, right? Sure we still ultimately have some rather base desires, but at the end of the day we have a better quality of life in the here and the now then we ever did before. Science has a lot to do with why we have that higher quality of life.
Yes but the heart and desire is the driving force behind the utilization of the sciences in that manor. The heart comes first. Always.

>lol what a fag. good luck trying to define that shit.
You mean to someone who doesn't understand..

Anyways, the heart releases hormones and neurotransmitters that directly effect the brain. That's some tangible evidence.

Holy shit what a stupid post. Science gives no fucks what he respects or doesn't. Science isn't dogma. It is, like he said, a toolbox. And it's been used to understand the universe very successfully. Science gives no shit about your opinions or his.

There isn't a fedora big enough holy shit

>you mean our minds right?
>le epin quality of life maymay

Typical autist who thinks everyone is a beep boop autismo tron like him. And that's why America's the most prosperous but also the most depressed country in the world right dipshit?

respect muh science

Literal autism is to blame. It's a shame because if they'd chosen the other team they could have shining careers as analytical philosophers.

Philosophy went right out the window when university research became more about finding grants and pushing out papers than anything else

I don't think it was the worst hit by that kind of thing. It definitely doesn't help though.

2 different people mate

Hi everyone Stefan Molyneux from Freedomain Radio hope you're doing well.

Feel free to post any arguments against me in this thread.

And if not?

Drop philosophy. Go to church. Paint yourself blue. Go cheer yourself hoarse at some bullshit political rally.

But please. Get out of the goddamn way.

not an argument

youtu.be/CBY0bZWKehQ

Nietzsche was less than 200 years ago and you have Icycalm right now. Both are still over the heads of even the brightest people and are fully read by practically no one. How many more do you need?

You wanna shooy me or something?

be nice to each other brehs

Why does Veeky Forums worship Nietzsche? Not you specifically but as a community. I mean it's contrary to his own philosophy to have such a cult of veneration around one man.

how can Veeky Forums worship anything, its a inanimate object.

also its users have massively disparate opinions, don't be a retard and think of the site as some hivemind.

kek

Nietzsche sucks

t.constantine

literally tell me what you mean when you say 'the heart'

do you even biology?

if you have evidence cite it

Nietzsche pretty much won I think

What else is there to add? Although I'm a very happy person and don't buy into that doom and gloom shit

>Why are there no more great philosophers?

Define "great philosopher".

>Is philosophy dead?

No.

The depth of my understanding of metaphysics is unparalleled and you will all be aware of me by the time of your deaths.

>Chomsky

A Nietzsche fanboy who thinks he's different from everyone else, such originality!

>Why does Veeky Forums worship Nietzsche?
Are you serious, nigger? Out of the millions that frequent this site, how many people actually talk positively about him, if at all?

Nietzsche is huge in the philosophy / literature world. It's no surprise he has some advocates on a site with millions of visitors.

They don't really. There's some diehards of Nietzschean philosophy here, but for the most part Nietzsche gets thoroughly shat on here, especially by the local Christposters.

Personally, I'm gonna read all his shit and see what all the fuss is about. What I've seen from secondary sources sounds bloody amazing.

His critique of modern ideology is vastly important, none is more comprehensive or original.

You realise he does real work on top of his topical comedy discussions on YouTube. Which of his books have you read and why do you dislike them?

>autist
>meme
>blame internet culture and young people

some fag OP can jerk off to and put on his bookshelf but never really read

I haven't read him personally so I'm as bad as the rest, but from what I've heard his bad reputation is based almost completely on being misrepresented by secondary sources. It probably doesn't help that he's not easy reading.

This is definitely a valid critique. Although all of Academia is guilty of this tenure seeking bullshit.

Shitposting aside, Francois Laruelle is typically brought up in these types of threads. I have no clue what his ideas are though.

>but from what I've heard his bad reputation is based almost completely on being misrepresented by secondary sources.
Nietzsche is very smart and writes aphoristically so it is inevitable that he would be misrepresented and misunderstood, but there is also something of this quote in it:
>You higher men on whom my gaze now falls, this is the doubt you wake in my breast and this is my secret laughter: I think that you would call my superman—A devil!
That is, it is not a question of understanding, of reaching some objective "truth", but a question of values and psychologies.

He has a bad reputation mostly because in the realm of philosophy, there is a large amount of Platonists, Plato having influenced a huge amount if not almost ALL of philosophy since he was alive up until the 19th century, and Nietzsche stands philosophically diametrically opposed to all things Plato, i.e. opposed to practically all of philosophy in between that time.

Deep down, regardless of what a philosopher says, they hold dear to some kind of SYSTEM or a discipline. There is a belief in a "right" of some kind, whether it be consistent or not. With Nietzsche, this is almost non-existent — his "right" is fervently "wrong" as far as all systematizers are concerned. He chooses Dionysus, the god of wine, ecstasy, and darkness, over the light, order of any kind, and created a philosophy out of this.

Only good answer in this thread.

>science is stating the obvious

This is the most stupid and retarded thing Ive read for a long time

They just chose a profession.

Philosophy is high culture and in today's world you are seen as a pretentious elitist if you think there's a difference between low and high culture

On the contrary. Its more alive than ever, and that is exactly why you don't see "great" philosophers around. Same goes for pretty much every other genre of science and art. Everyone can read and write and someone having original thoughts is just not enough to be elevated above the rest. Everyone and their dog has some special snowflake worldview, the more intelligent, original and educated ones can now produce great works of thought on their own.

lol at this fucking retarded plebshit faggot

please tell me more how redditors and plumbers are producing great works of philosophy

humanity always needs someone doing legitimate mental gymnastics about pointless shit (read philosophers), not everything can be learned from hard science

Zizek is a walking meme not a philosopher

great strawmanning my friend

Because philosophy has been dominated by marxists and only marxists so its shit.