Vintage antifa thread, especially late 80's

Antifa just copy actual fascist aesthetics down to the very fine details. From the flags to the symbology to the clothing, hair. Literally everything

They even act like fascists it's really sad. Antifa will never be fashionable

>Implying facist aren't effay

lol, it's literally the opposite. Fascism adopted leftist aesthetics and hollow pro-worker sentiments, because it's the only way to get the working class to vote against their own interests.

Like any other art, good fashion comes from the left, is rinsed to death by liberals until it's no longer appealing at all, then finally recycled along the right.

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Pretty much all anarchopunk is antifa, so most of what we would consider punk look would apply to OP.

Most Euro antifa won't be that dapper. Parisian leftists have always been fashionable but it's more to do with being Parisian than with any ideology.

Anarchists hate the Israeli state. I mean obviously they hate all states but they really don't like Israel.

It goes both ways. Skinheads were antifa before neonazis appropriated it. The undercut look of Hitler Youth was only adopted by fascists after it was popular among socialists.

Antifa has always had hordes of liberals standing around making them look bad. It's why they hate liberals more than the right does.

The good ol' antifa that still goes out for smashy smashy never changed, although they aren't quite as fashionable.

My dude if your citing that haircut as some sort of political statement you're completely delusional. That hair has been the default haircut of white men since scissors were invented. It has nothing to do with politics. As for fascist aesthetics being appropriated from socialists please cite your sources

>thread about antifa fashion
>no black bloc

Fucking Veeky Forums.

>fascism adopted leftist aesthetics

Then why are leftists still mad 100 years later hitler demolished their period blood portraits

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Original skin heads weren't anti-fa. They just weren't political. Anti-fa was a direct reaction the politicalization of skin head.

And wtf socialists did not popularise the hitler youth hair cut It was popularised by working class street gangs in London early 1920s

Why do you try to apply your politics to things just for the sake of it. Based of the current threshold for what's considered to be right wing virtually every piece of art made before the 1970s would be considered far right in today's world but I don't see "fascists" trying to apply these things as key foundations of their political movements

>Lou reed called black people niggers in some of his songs
>therefore velvet underground is part of my secret underground fascist movement

idont like the right but I don't like leftists like you either. Make your agenda less obvious next time

Fascists are socialist m8

>That hair has been the default haircut of white men since scissors were invented. It has nothing to do with politics.

It's actually an industrial haircut, that became a class thing during the interwar period because it was adopted by workers (since it stays out of the way of work and doesn't get caught in machinery and can be stuffed under a hat, etc.). It was also associated with gangs (because it stays out of the way in a street fight) and Jazz musicians (because it doesn't get in the way of your instrument when rocking the fuck out), further coupling it to the identity of the lower classes.

If you want more examples of fascism appropriating leftist aesthetics you can look up the origins of Romanticism and Art Deco which made up the bulk look of Nazi art and architecture. As well as the Swastika itself.

Romanticism was a notoriously nationalistic movement and you'd be hard pressed to find a single romantic period artist who wasn't an anti Semite and racist and who wouldn't a far right devil by today's standards

Self determination ,national identity and violence are rife within romantic works. I mean some of the most famous romantic paintings are of violent revolution.

You really have no clue what you're talking about

The 1960's skinhead culture was a youth working class rejection of conservative values. It's true that the antifa skins didn't come until the 1980's, but it was always leftist.

>socialists did not popularise the hitler youth hair cut It was popularised by working class street gangs in London early 1920s

No one said socialism popularized the undercut. It wasn't political at all until socialist organizations came along because they were all about the worker and adopted worker imagery.

>the swastika is romaticism

lol wtf

They aren't. The only people who can truly be Veeky Forums are apolitical

my dude just read the wiki and stop trying to politicise shit. They rejected conservatism and burgerois aka peace loving hippies. Skin head was never a leftist movement

>you'd be hard pressed to find a single romantic period artist who wasn't an anti Semite and racist and who wouldn't a far right devil by today's standards

You'd be hardpressed to find anyone from the Romantic period who wasn't an anti Semite and racist and who wouldn't a far right devil by today's standards. The artists within their own time were radical.

>Self determination ,national identity and violence are rife within romantic works. I mean some of the most famous romantic paintings are of violent revolution.

No one loves revolution more than leftists, and self determination isn't an inherently rightwing idea. Anti-monarch nationalist identity isn't rightwing either, quite the opposite.

>You really have no clue what you're talking about

You just tried to paint a staple of the French Revolution as rightwing. You can't fuck up political ideology much more than that.

That's some reading comprehension right there.

>my dude just read the wiki

Okay.

"The rise to prominence of skinheads came in two waves, with the first taking place in the late 1960s and the second in the early 1980s. The first skins were working class youth motivated by an expression of alternative values, rejecting both 1950s austerity and conservatism"

>They rejected conservatism and burgerois aka peace loving hippies.

You must not know many leftists. They hate liberals more than anyone.

>fascists
>Veeky Forums
>ever

Yeah not all.

The thing all antifa look best in is being covered in burning napalm.

How is this effay? The guy on the right looks like a poz powerbottom.

>leaving out the last sentence just to fit your political narrative

The first skins were working class youth motivated by an expression of alternative values, rejecting both 1950s austerity and conservatism and the more middle class or bourgeois 1960s peace and love ethos and hippie movement.

Skin head was apolitical and don't rationalise this in your as I'm some polack attacking you I hate the right with a passion. But at this moment in time I hate the left even more

OP here, what the fuck. Who gives a shit about who invented the fucking undercut. Antifa have a long history of being Veeky Forums and if you faggots don't want to post pictures of 80's anti/fa/ then go to another thread.

>leaving out the last sentence just to fit your political narrative

>not reading the other part of my post which addressed exactly that
>trying to say a group who outwardly rejected conservatism and bourgie ideology aren't political

>Romantic nationalism (also national romanticism, organic nationalism, identity nationalism) is the form of nationalism in which the state derives its political legitimacy as an organic consequence of the unity of those it governs. This includes, depending on the particular manner of practice, the language, race, culture, religion, and customs of the "nation" in its primal sense of those who were born within its culture.

Of all the movement to choose to amplify your leftist point you chose romanticism a period in which it's cornerstone ideals literally defined what it means to be right wing in the modern age....

You are a complete and utter retard

They just wanted to dress as skinheads after racist skinheads were a thing, that's what SHARPs were about.

Also, they wanted to get into fights but in a 4 to 1 fight they wanted to be the 4.

by principle, antifa are pussies because of what they stand for.

MAGA!

Romantic nationalism doesn't make up all of romanticism you obvious retard.

lol @ the tacit admission to MAGA through fascism. Typical.

A lot of the noncombative garb was really ahead of its time but it doesn't translate well through the ages since it's typical hipster indie trash now.

Forgot picture.

At what point will importing the third world and adding letters to LGBT and celebrating freaks make America great?

>One of Romanticism's key ideas and most enduring legacies is the assertion of nationalism, which became a central theme of Romantic art and political philosophy. From the earliest parts of the movement, with their focus on development of national languages and folklore, and the importance of local customs and traditions, to the movements that would redraw the map of Europe and lead to calls for self-determination of nationalities, nationalism was one of the key vehicles of Romanticism, its role, expression and meaning.

Are you just like trolling or something. Romanticism was nationalism. The whole basis of romanticism was around identity, roots, language, nature, self perception and historical ties. The romantics were some of the earliest white nationalists. Infact in the 15th century the romantics went and slaughtered all the spics who came over with the Spanish and infiltrated the catholic church just because they were brown lmao!

Modern day conservatism and identitarianism is a direct descendant of romanticism. You really have absolutely no idea about what you are talking about do you

>The whole basis of romanticism was around identity, roots, language, nature, self perception and historical ties.

None of which is exclusively tied to far right nationalism.

There is a reason you had to quote the page for nationalist romanticism instead of just the page for romanticism, because the page for romanticism agrees with me.

>It had a significant and complex effect on politics, and while for much of the Romantic period it was associated with liberalism and radicalism, its long-term effect on the growth of nationalism was perhaps more significant.

Which is what I was saying the whole thread - the nationalism adopted it from the liberal/radical movements. There is no doubt that nationalism adopted it, but romanticism wasn't a nationalist movement.

Anti-fa is very pro Hilary, Hilary is very anti-2a

If you look at anti-fa it's unarmed kids dressed in black mostly millenials.

They won't survive combat

You don't even know what liberalism means. Lol honestly I can't even argue with you. Your posts itt are some of the dumbest things I've ever read on Veeky Forums

>Make a thread about Hitler's fashion
>Go back to /pol/ replies and get banned
>Some faggot makes a thread about antifa """fashion"""
>52 / 19 / 16 / 1
I wonder who could be behind this board...

antifa isnt pro hillary jesus christ

Anti-fa is the aggressive part of the LGBT/femnist/women's March

So far you kids only argue with other millenials.

Millenials are weak, grew up in a time where Steve Jobs and Steve Aoki were people to aspire to.

They're weak male femnist types who have strict stances on guns and your generation is arguing amongst each other.

My generation doesn't care about you kids burning your own liberal schools to the ground.

But if you start assaulting grown men with sticks because you want to overthrow the government and put Clinton in power.....

You're now facing a generation of people you don't compare to....We own guns, we don't have participation trophies, our schools and mainstream media aren't infested with feminism.

You're anziz Ansari is cutting edge comedy we had Dave Chappelle

It's a generation where ever is rougher.

You think I care if you're against the second amendment? You hit me with a 2x4 I'm dumping 30 rounds of 5.56 into your.moms minivan filled with your friends in order to protect my country...

Oh damn a straight male is going to shoot at us how unfair.

I don't entirely disagree with your point but holy shit people have been complaining about the 'new generation' since plato.

Sieg. You're a millennial.

I'm not claiming to hate the young generation.

It's that they want to kill to put their candidate into power.

I'm telling you they don't have the means nor the grit required to kill anyone.

Civil wars don't have participation trophies....The Clinton cucks are on the wrong end of that motive

These are anti-nazi skin heads punks or whatever they call themselves. They are not antifa. Antifa is a specific organization which has always been dominantly middle class, students, communists.

The haircut also doesn't get in the way of helmets. You're just trying to get your dirty Bolshevik fingers over everything you like shouting "mine, mine, mine". It doesn't work that way.

>romanticism

a highly nationalistic european identity and tradition based movement is left wing?

>art deco

You mean the same art decos who's routes lie directly in the palm of futurism, a artistic movement from the early 1900s created by a man named marinetti. The same man who founded fascism

why do you embarrass yourself like this?

come here antifa scum

Not even the user you're arguing, but it feels like you're entirely unaware of the origins and historical evolution of the terms and movements you describe and you're redefining them to fit with your world view.

being mad is not very /lefty/. at least it wasn't until the sjw wave. but maybe i'm an oldschool communist and belong in a museum.

>communists
>not mad at things
You're probably just a middle class liberal who sometimes talks about Marx when you hang out with your middle class liberal friends.

You belong in a shallow grave communist scum bag

This thread gave me cancer.

How can you unironically be a part of that antifa/fa shit.

antifa is anti-Veeky Forums

post more please

interesting thread

antifa is unbelievably cringe

i didn't think anything could be worse than the "alt-right"

They act like brownshirt thugs, threatening anyone who disagrees with them with physical violence, then claim to be against fascism?

Really makes you drink.

please fuck off with your thinly veiled /pol/tier thread, because you and right wing retards are shitting up this board and killing good threads

Romanticism was the foundation of nationalism. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, it was a way to form national identity and literally started the unification of Germany

lol

Aziz Ansari and Dave Chappelle are barely a generation apart anyway. He must be going through a quarter-hour crisis

>violence = fascism

idiot

>wonky ass swastikas
>rammstein scarf
>cereal and soft drink containers

How embarrassing

not that user but you're a fucking idiot if that's all you came away with from what he said

But antifas are just retarded and aggressive leftwing douchebags, and they are the useful idiots of the system in power.
That type of person usually hates and refuses to talk with anybody who has different views than them, which turns them into what they claim to fight against : Fascists.
Sad but true

damn look how far antifa people have fallen.

now they are just tumblr core losers who beat up old men for supporting the president.

Reminder that this is not stalin

Pic related is stalin.

No those are 90's Paris Antifas

youtube.com/watch?v=EfDbTgb6uyc

how come antifags look like actual fags?

>Veeky Forums meet up bushwick

lmfao

>gets asked to cite sources
>goes on some retarded rant about how a haircut 100 years ago was worn specifically by jazz musicians

lol the commie delusion is strong

>used to

>Anti-fa is very pro Hilary
wtf I hate antifa now

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supremacist or not i want to fugg that cow tit cunt in her white trash punani

Jesus chirst.

don't make me bust out my pkk Veeky Forums folder

underrated

This thread is trash anyway, do it

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tfw no pkk gf

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best antifa imo