IRA

>never EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER

ROI's economy getting stronk after they fucked it up so, so hard. And countless people here would rather be Irish than feed off the coat-tails of the fucking UK.

Ireland will unite in our lifetime, and Scotland will also leave the UK in our lifetime.
Unless some crazy, crazy, radical force is introduced, the support for leaving the UK is building in both countries (albeit much slower in NI.)

Soon the eternal anglo will be confined to the bottom half of the mainland and that'll be that.

Especially if you faggots actually leave the EU. RIP, Britain.

You seem like you know your shit so I'll ask. How bad was the protestant hate in Ireland? I've read mixed things about it, from everything to as long as you were a Republican no one cared if you were a proddy to the IRA killing protestant farmers for no reason at all.

why the fuck would you want these nations to break up?
So they can all be mutually POORER?
So they all have to have separate currencies?
More complicated legal definitions?
More expensive imports?
Border checkpoints?

Basically MORE LIKE IRELAND?

The irish GDP is 190 billion dollars - The British GDP is 2.4 TRILLION dollars.
Our economy is growing three times faster than Ireland's.
Despite massive allowances given to you by Europe your unemployment rate is still 37%.

Dude, you just hate Britain. Face it. You would be better off united. Statistical fact.
Its just prevented by ingrained hatred on the Irish side.

The whole point of it is sovereignty. That's why the EU referendums happening, Brit governing Brits
Potatoes governing potatoes

>wanting to ruin Ireland with our shitty political system
if anything it should be the other way around, Ireland should annex the UK and oust westminster

>The irish GDP is 190 billion dollars - The British GDP is 2.4 TRILLION dollars.
Ours is higher per capita

>Our economy is growing three times faster than Ireland's.
Nope, ours is growing the fastest in all of Western Europe

>Despite massive allowances given to you by Europe your unemployment rate is still 37%.
It's 7.8%

>Dude, you just hate Britain.
I don't know why the bongs are so obsessed with us. It's kind of weird. Most Irish people like you, there's no need to act so passive aggressive.

If we joined the UK we'd become like NI, aka a shithole. I like English people but you have absolutely no clue how to run a country.

How bad was the hate?
Pretty bad, anything denying it is probably written by prods tbqh

>Irish people couldn't get jobs
>Irish people constantly shit on by RUC (current police force, VERY protestant-it was so bad that today's police force has to meet an equality quota between people of prod and catholic background)
>Irish generally seen as second class citizens
>Culture in NI dominated by protestant unionist culture
>People in Irish areas treated pretty badly with only a few (often rich) exceptions

Irish/catholic/nationalists were really not treated well whatsoever, and what kicked off the troubles was largely an escalation of what was a defence against violence aimed toward those people.

Don't let anyone fool you into thinking the IRA dindu nuffin-they strayed VERY far from being "freedom fighters" VERY quickly, but it is an even bigger lie to imply that irish people did not need some sort of uprising to fight back against what was a very unfair society.

>WHY DON'T YOU STOP USING EURO, USE STERLING, REEEEEEEEE
>UK is only place in Europe that uses Sterling

Yes, WE are the weird, different outcasts who need to be brought to heel. Enjoy your caliphate.

nah

>ireland
>border checkpoints

lol nigger there's barely a border. Most people cross it without even knowing.

Also
>you just hate britain

If you're not a shitty third world fuckhole, that is a perfectly good reason to not want to join Britain. Which I don't. I am not British, I don't really identify with anything british and I love irish culture, history and all that guff.

Also, shitting all over English superiority just gets me so, so hard.

>brits are THIS mad that Ireland is now a nicer country to live in

Reminder that the eternal anglo can't be allowed to exist anywhere
Not even in their own homes

>post yfw the eternal anglo will never stop being mad that at what the British Empire has become

IRA is still active since they began collaborating with other groups. They have something cooking just waiting for leader to follow.

I met a grill who claimed her dad was high up in the IRA on /r9k/ once

Speaking of other groups how did they "get along" with ETA and related organizations?

Northern Ireland belongs to the UK.

IRA doesn't do much nowadays. Drug trade, the occasional murder. Typical scumbag stuff. Only slightly worse than the prod paras.

They mustn't have been that effective if NI isn't occupied by the south yet.

Tbh going to the UN would have been better.

Peaceful means > violent means

Muslims > dubliners

Country folk are great, but seriously fuck Dublin.

>The whole point of it is sovereignty. That's why the EU referendums happening

Except Ireland doesnt have any issues with mass immigration...

Ireland is a total shithole. I mean, I'm sorry, but I've lived there intermittently for over a decade and I prefer Britain or France over it any day. It's expensive, inbred, argumentative, poor, uneducated and arrogant. Its history is full of bloodshed that its proud of for some reason. And when it wasnt fighting it was starving to death. Being home to a few writers and poets does not make you a culturally advanced nation. Fight a fucking war, stop being cowards, stop infighting and do something worthy of recognition.

Someone had to have a go at unifying these god forsaken islands, no point in Irish being bitter all their lives over it

>How important was the Provisional IRA for Ireland?
Very.

Contrary to what SDLP uncle Toms will say were it not for the ra Northern Ireland would have achieved civil rights at a snails pace.

>How active is the IRA today?
Very active at extorting drug dealers for money and occasionally harassing ex-Sinn Fein politicians for leaving.

>Northern Ireland belongs rightfully to (UK/Ireland)?
Ireland.

>How bad were the troubles?
Pretty fucking bad, although the British army and police sure did their part to make sure it was as un-fun as possible.

>How effective were Provisional IRA terrorist tactics (bombings and such)?
On the count they won - pretty effective.

Nah, effort like.

>fight a fucking war, stop being cowards
Irish warriors and soldiers have been known throughout history to be ferocious bastards, even when fighting for someone else-even as late as WW1, Ulster in particular provided some top-tier riflemen.

Ireland really isn't that bad. Dublin is a drug filled shithole and Belfast is faggotry incarnate, but Ireland as a whole is pretty nice.
You can easily avoid shitty areas in most cities-as you do anywhere else-and it's a nice place.

>history so full of bloodshed
Who's history isn't full of bloodshed you fucking mong.

Ireland leaving the UK was the worst decision they ever made.

>Ulster
>Proper irish

>Imagine some shitty skirmishes on a street, car bombs, people getting stabbed or shot in parks and pubs, people vanishing, and constant police raids.

So ghettos more or less?

John Hume is the protagonist of later 20th century Norn Iron history

It could have been if it wasn't for the Glorious Revolutio

United British Isles under a Catholic King = God tier

Bloody proddies

Then again Engliah were often prics to us

Then again Irish Jacobites were prepared to fight on behalf of a Britosh king

Un never works.
It can but some country with huge control like ones in the security council can just stop it dead and it happens often.

>Not David Trimble as co-protagonists

Violence is the best attention getter.
Unfortunate but it's the most effective.

America would never let the Brits veto. A labour government or a center-right Tory one would probably let it pass.

If only the Irish had all converted to Protestantism.

reminder that british soldiers used irish children as human shields during shoot outs

>the major party for unification is left-Wing and would important muzzies by the boatload if they had their way
Why does the world have to be so cruel?

Reminder that this is a lie and also Irish 'freedom fighters' used to blow up irish children

This

>Reminder that this is a lie
There's a video of a British soldier admitting to it. He doesn't seem especially proud of it but he does think it's weirdly amusing that the IRA didn't want to shoot children

Eternal Anglo spotted

>an ira thread
kek, this is gonna be good
anglos always get so triggered when this comes up for some reason

I like the irish, they like us as well really

This IRA stuff is all bullshit and normal people don't care

>Two children were killed and dozens of people were injured.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bomb_attacks

IRA are the real children killers, both English kids and Irish kids mate. Cba pulling up loads of other bombings and fatalities for you

>For some reason
When you realise that IRA are scum you will understand

Don't blame them for leaving though

Should have treated them better

thejournal.ie/ireland-interest-repayment-to-britain-1120288-Oct2013/

Surely you mean
>the major party for reunification is a populist movement feeding of James Connolly's legacy that will do anything to achieve its goals, including entering into a coalition with the DUP.

There is nothing particularly left-wing about Sinn Fein. They're only left-wing in opposition. Everyone is left-wing in opposition.

>Reminder that there is confusion around the word "bloody sunday" due to the fact there are in fact two separate occasions upon which British soldiers have fired upon innocent, entirely unarmed irish civilians
>Reminder that there was an entire force of British Soldiers who were notorious for deliberately fucking shit up for civilians
>Reminder that the atrocities comitted by the IRA were due to radicalisation of youth into a false-movement with no right to call themselves the IRA, in response to mounting violence and oppression toward Irish civilians
>Reminder that protestant unionists in NI actually think they are the victims of history in Ireland
>Reminder that some people actually think that Ireland are the bad guys
>Reminder that since Britain took land from the Irish, there has not been a single generation to this day which has not witnessed an uprising
>Reminder that the eternal anglo will NEVER not be triggered by Irish people telling them to just fuck off already

>Reminder that since Britain took land from the Irish, there has not been a single generation to this day which has not witnessed an uprising

So when will there be our uprising? If anything ours is far more likely to be a red/green kickback led by Eamonn McCann and Gerry Carroll, and I don't think that will be very violent.

Well, technically ours is still happening due to the ongoing activity of the IRA.
Unless they do literally nothing for a generation, that's ours.

Although to say that Ireland will not unite in our lifetime is a very silly notion.

Less than 4000 dead in 30 years, really quite a pathetic terrorist campaign when you think about it. 4000 died in one day in 9/11 and probably the same every month in Iraq/Syria etc.

But the IRA are not respected. They are seen as drug dealers who shoot other drug dealers.Their ongoing activity does nothing but polarise nationalists who are sympathetic to them as misguided patriots. Blowing up a prison officer, while an agent of the state is still a bad PR move.

Ireland will unite eventually no doubt, just with kicking and screaming Ulster Unionists.

>flying two planes into two skyscrapers in an extremely densely populated city
>extremely small scale conflict between a police force, british soldiers and an ill to averagely equipped paramilitary in much less densely populated areas, where open conflict was extremeley rare and a lot of killings were kidnappings, murder or accidental as opposed to deaths in skirmishes

Gee, I dunno how they didn't rack up a higher number lad.

IRA a shit, I was really just speaking technically because there's a couple of tiny, irrelevant fags that still call themselves the IRA in the name of fighting british occupation.

Oh of course, Ulster Unionists are the biggest bunch of babies on the planet. Literally tumblr-tier when it comes to getting triggered by anything that isn't in their protestant safe space

>Speaking of other groups how did they "get along" with ETA and related organizations?
They supported each other and Sinn Féin mediated the ceasefire between ETA and the Spanish state

>Bloody Sunday
>Innocent
>Unarmed
>Irish

They've put something in your potatoes son.

>1972
>26 unarmed civvies shot during a protest

>1920
>Fired into a fucking crowd at a sports game, killing 14 and wounding far more

???

>Ulster Unionists will get a built-in veto to a future all-Ireland Dail
>The DUP will be replaced by an even more extreme party.
>They'll get Ulster Scots days in Dublin and funding for their joke of a language
>Orange parades broadcast across RTE as part of a new "shared culture" initiative.

They're already trying to make Orangefest a thing to attract tourism.

jesus no

Feel bad for the tourists already.

>Ireland leaving the UK was the worst decision they ever made.
Actually the opposite is true. Within 45 years of joining the union we became a horrendous shithole quoted as being worse than Africa and India and within 70 years of independence we became one of the most developed countries in the world. Fortunately we don't have to speculate as to what the future would have been like under English rule, we have a control subject. The shithole known as Northern Ireland that went from the economic and industrial heartland of Ireland to a vegetable on life support, basically an entire province on the dole.

English rule, not even once.

protestantism is the macdonalds of religion

Al Qaeda were deliberately trying to kill as much civilians. The IRA tried to avoid civilian casualties barriing a couple of cases.

>Year 2100
>Ireland is united and Britain is 99% Muslim
>Radical Ulster Unionists convert to Islam in the face of betrayal by their elected protestant politicians and their wish to unite with the mother country, the United Caliphate.

>Ian Paisley Jr. Jr. Jr. Jr TD: Allahu Akbar, we must carry on the Jihad of our ancestors and purge Al Ayrlanda of the Fenian infidel and reuinite with the Ummah under the rightly guided Windsorid calipate.

Hm I wonder if Northern Ireland might have become worse because materials from Southern Ireland weren't flowing in, and you know ira terrorism once the land has already been split

Right ol' chap we're going to blow up this country famous statue in the middle of the city but we want to kill nobody so just use 50x the amount of explosive we need

Yes, economists more or less universally agree that a united Ireland and the ensuing free trade across the island would be massively mutually beneficial.

However bro-economics on both sides is a massive hindrence to unification because of the mutual belief that the other side of the border is shit and would ruin muh country.

Why does Britain want to hold unto Northern Ireland if it's a burden on the UK?

They don't. They really don't care for us.

Unionists in NI are just so fucking ironclad on staying, and there are constant fear campaigns which are basically "KEEP UNIONIST PARTIES IN POWER OR THE TROUBLES WILL COME BACK"

People continue to vote the same, shitty parties in just because they're unionist, and the rest are essentially irrelevant.

Once there aren't so many people around who remember immediate post-troubles life, they'll stop voting out of fear.

The Uk already has free trade with Ireland since they are both part of the common market. Stop shilling for sinn fien.

There are no border checkpoints any more.

Ireland couldn't pay for the subsidies that this shithole takes in.

Under your thinking maybe the south should join the uk to get access to England, Scotland and Wales in addition to the north instead.

Maybe 30 years of terrorism didn't help? Maybe stupid working class prods not getting an education didn't help? Don't blame the English, they just left Ulster to its own stupid things.

UNITED ISLES UNDER IRISH CONTROL WHEN

>tfw NI prods are some of the least educated people in the developed world

OUR KULTURE

There are plenty of stupid Catholics too desu. The smart prods leave NI, but the smart Catholics stay.

>tfw getting a career in mental health to help it prosper in NI, especially for men
>tfw conflicted between wanting to leave this shitty country but not wanting to leave all the triggered faggots in such a shitty system

NI needs purged.

If only the government could pay the nationalists to move down south or to America and let the decent prods and Catholics live in peace. Maybe pay the prod paras to move to Australia so they are as far away from each other as possible.

Are you a catholic user or a Protestant user?

Raised a protestant (mother from shankill) but we moved away from the city and kind of abandoned the whole religion thing, for the most part.

>inb4 fedora

We just don't really sway either way.
As for Unionist or Nationalist, I have an Irish passport and call myself Irish, however I also have a British passport because who the fuck doesn't want two passports.

tl;dr: No religion, irish moderate unionist, don't want Ireland to unite until the south is fuckin ready. Prod Unionists and orangefags can fuck off. and so can Sinn Fein

why would you pursue such an odd career, user? Psychology is usually for retards and women

[spoiler]got assblasted by an abuser when I was a youngfag and it fucked me up since getting help as a guy in NI is not only difficult but very embarrassing. Right now I volunteer at samaritans and intend to go into abuse counselling [/spoiler]

Just for the bants, mate.

you sound pretty chill about it
did you like it?
are you gay now?
did your family set up a lynch mob?
was he catholic or proddy?

I can't dislike that view. Why not call yourself British and Irish? I've always seen all Irish as British as Ireland is part of the British isles. You know like you can be a Texan and an American at once.

Otherwise, I'm a bit like you . I'm a moderate unionist who was raised Protestant but is irreligious. I have a British passport, but I might get an Irish one for travelling to the middle East (Ireland never invaded any of those places) for purely pragmatic reasons.

DUP and sinn fein are living cancer.

>tfw fucked up the spoiler

Why do I say things.
>did you like it
lel, but it wasn't all sex famalam. Beatings, cuts and burns, oh my!
Eh. Not gay, my family didn't do shit (didn't do anything till I was 18 to keep it under wraps+dudes already in jail getting raped in england)

He was a prod.
>is that why you hate prods

No.

/blog over

I would call myself British and Irish but I don't consider myself British, at all. Not for sake of IRA shitposting-I have a strong irish identity and traced my family back as far as 1700 to be from Ireland (and shetland, funny enough.)

>but user, 1700 in ireland doesn't necessarily mean irish forever

No, but I figure it's far back enough for me to say I'm Irish.

Also-regardless of identity-get an Irish passport. If brexit memes their way to a victory it will mean you'll still get cheap holidays because of irish citizenship.

shit nigger I think I've seen you post this before, before Veeky Forums was made
are you a ginger?

>common market
That's not exactly free trade
There's still differences in currency, minor trade regulations and taxation. Ultimately it makes a big difference.

>Ireland couldn't pay for the subsidies that this shithole takes in.
It's not that much of a shithole, I live here and it's a perfectly nice place. Not to mention the south is rich as fuck.

>Under your thinking maybe the south should join the uk to get access to England, Scotland and Wales in addition to the north instead.
Yeah, that would also be an economically beneficial arrangement.

But why bother? There's more of a demand for the North to join the south whereas the counter proposal has non-existent support.

I am not a ginger, but I've posted about this shit before on /soc/ in some faggy "how fucked up are you xD" thread. Cancerous, I know.

'spose there's a lot of people getting buggered as little boys in this country then, strange that both molestors fled to England though, same story with the burning and what not as well where the lad posted a picture of his back with marks all over it

I'd say whatever minor trade barriers with the south are made up for by accessing the rest of the UK anyway.

>posted a picture of his back with marks all over it

Yikes, yup. Hello again, I guess. I was drunk, no bully.

The thing is the rest of the UK is on another island.

As it stands the overwhelming majority of the trade happens with the free state by virtue of just being down the road. A similar thing can be observed in other divided islands like Hispaniola or New Guinea.

small website m8, just be glad you're not posting on /lgbt/

Bloody Sunday was Irish killing Irish, no Anglos were present

>no Anglos were present
p. sure British soldiers are Anglo.