Was he right?

In regards to him conquering and killing off a lot of eastern europeans that's not false propaganda. He was a totalitarian brute like Stalin was. Controlled opposition even though it's kinda incorrect to say opposition because Hitler was always on the side of the those whom he claimed he hated and he bent over and took it up his ass all the time like the good "goy" he was.

Lol

Stalin wanted to conquer Europe with Communism. We saw this with what they did after WW2 by dividing Berlin and making East Berlin communist. Hitler had no intentions of spreading the NSDAP across the world.

The point he made about the concentration camps was interesting. Kind of a stark reminder that there was no real black and white in this war. There really was no objective good or bad side. Definitely can't say that with their civilian bombing campaigns, nukes, and blockades that the Allies weren't being just as brutal to enemy civilians as the Germans were. Citizens of Hamburg literally boiled alive in the river after being firebombed. If that's not a crime I don't know what is.

He did till the Ural mountains and depopulating slavs and some finnic people. But of course /pol/tards turn a blind eye to this, they're pathetic controlled opposition. And I actually even have quite a large number of distant relatives that died in labor camps or when they were driven on trains there, yet even in the late months of the war nazi Germany still had a lot of manpower, yet they being the lazy obnoxious jew pawns they are brought in foreigners to do shit for them.

Oh yes he did.

All "inferior" races and those with "impure" blood were to be subservient to the "Aryan master race".

Or be brutally murdered.

Nazis are the trash of the world.

Need a source on that, Bokshevik.

Oh my... they've fallen for cliche American propaganda from the 40's. I urge you to think for yourselves and learn from non-bias sources.

Non biased sources like /pol/ and stormfront.org.

I don't need to read anything when I have relatives who lived through and survived those things. But since you're probably an /pol/ack my facts are too much for you. But regardless I don't need to shove down truth down anyone's throat. And lastly any source that denies nazi atrocities is highly biased and far away from reality.

>and learn from non-bias sources.

Like what?

Are you saying a person who says that the nazis didn't make lampshades out of human skin and force feed 5 year old Jewish boys the ashes of their parents are bias?

That's a pretty pathetic strawman, provide these non-biased sources already.

Wasn't a strawman. There are claims of dead Jews being made in lampshades and soap.

There are people who say a lot of fucking things, but nobody said that in this thread. Address what these people said, instead of conjuring up the most extreme examples you can think of to substitute them instead,
Then provide those non-biased sources, I'm still waiting.

It's common knowledge he wanted to extend his "reich" to the Urals. If that's not what you were asking for then I suggest you check out the War Of The Century - When Hitler Fought Stalin documentary, where Germans admit to crimes against humanity, and research the 36th ss division during the time when they ran rampant and raped and also killed kids, young men and women plus elderly. And also in that doc are also mentioned soviet absurdities, not only german ones. Also pretty sure in The Ukrainian Insurgent Army Chronicles 1942-1954 documentary the insurgent army vets recall how "victorious german liberators" executed nationalistic Ukrainians.

The only thing Hitler was right about was his decision to blow his brains out.

me

Calm down goldstein.

Who the fuck are you kidding? He wouldve spared Italy and Japan to not appear 100% cockroach, outside of that get your guns ready if their your neighbor.

They would have done what the US has done, infiltrate the governments and economies and make vassals.

>we would never put women and children into concentration camps

Hitler ran up enormous debts which he never paid back for obvious reasons so essentially billions of dollars flowed from international finance into Germany. Even if you believe in le new world order international finance illuminati conspiracy, it doesn't apply here.

Germany was never penalized for failing to pay back reparations as liberals in Britain and France viewed it as unfair amidst the great depression, Hitler talks of reconciliation so starting a war over having been made to pay some reparations in the past is out of proportion, especially in light of the appeasements of Neville Chamberlain. Unless you unironically believe that the Gleiwitz incident was the prelude to Poland invading Germany there is no justification for any of this.

Anyone worldly enough can see that this is just "muh oppression" style propaganda and there is no truth to it.

Hitler blowing his brains out was a Soviet lie they made up to make paranoid Stalin feel good about himself.

>hitler actually did nothing wrong meme
This, and the idea that Germany was suffering because of reparations are perhaps Goebbels greatest propaganda.

You can remove everything about jews from the history of WWII, and still be left with a mountain of corpses and failed smug decisions that made the entire citizenry of a country look like monsters.

Yes, the trials were unfair in how those persecuted were treated. Not everyone was out for blood, the majority who weren't higher ups did what they did because the alternative was killing themselves and their families.

Yes, Jews are too often the centerpoint of WWII despite their deaths being a drop in the bucket of awful shit that happened during this war.

Yes, the records are fucked, and inaccurate at times for a number of reasons, some of which because there is an agenda

Yes, the German soldiers were not all baby raping villains(However, don't even act like rape wasn't encouraged and expected with Soviet and German forces.)

No, this does not make Hitler good man who fell victim to "the Jews" or any of western media. Accept already that this man and the high up company he kept were cocksure lunatics, and then maybe your political movement and the entirety of /pol/ wouldn't be fucking mocked by everyone.

>anyone who supports Hitler must be from /pol/!

When will this meme die?

If it was a lie, it was a shitty one.

Stalin questioned the legitimacy of Hitler's death, and always wondered if he managed to escape.

If he didn't kill himself there, and actually managed to flee I would be surprised considering how much his failures in Russia broke him.

Whether not he lived doesn't really matter though considering he likely would have spent the remainder of his life in hiding, and in deep depression.

>what is reading comprehension
He said AND the entirety of /pol/.

...

>associating the NSDAP with /pol/

To be fair, the Nazis weren't nearly as bad as the media portrays them to be.

Fuck yeah
He was saving the world

>killing people because their skull had the wrong form
Can't get more stereotypical than that

Straight out of churchill's history of ww2

>your political movement and the entirety of /pol/
Read that again you fucking idiot.

Out of everything in my post, you resort to getting upset over my mention of /pol/ as if everything I said was to criticize that board.

There are an overwhelming majority of people on /pol/ who sympathize with some or many of the ideas of the Nazi party, or simply feel they are too often portrayed as comical villains.

There are good points to be made by these people, and the Nazi party was not the personal representation of Hitler's asshattery.

My point is that none of this good is ever going to be seen if so many continue to hold up the worst aspects of the Nazi party as good things. It'd be a hell of a lot easier to portray German soldiers in a good light if you didn't try to support the people in government who are responsible for every reason we put soldiers from Germany in a bad light.

That was far more Hitler, and the select group of higher up's thing than it was the party, soldiers, and citizen's. The majority of outrageous bullshit that is constantly brought up when it comes to Nazis is almost always the fault of Hitler and his chosen elite composed of extremists.

The man set himself up for failure when he decided those closest to him should be those who went above and beyond agreeing with his every word.

>implying Churchill was wrong

It's pretty easy blaming the populace when the populace is following these extremists

What fucking choice did they have? Are you going to tell me any soldier in WW1 had a choice? I'm sure glad all those people sent draft cards for Vietnam could have just said no.

>Kaiser Wilhelm II tells Bismarck to GTFO and fucks up Germany's alliances
>Turmoil ensues and leads to war, Wilhelm II having a small dick and being butthurt about it doesn't precisely help
>Germany happily goes to war thinking it'll be like 1870
>Germany gets BTFO big time
>Has to pay reparations
>Barely even pays those reparations, but stil gets massively butthurt over treaty of Versailles
>HURR DURR GERMANY DINDU NUFFIN DA JOOS AND DA BRITS AN DA NU WORLD ORDA WANT US TO DIE DEM SO EVIL

tl;dr he was just butthurt because Germany got fucked in WW1.

Ah, the good old external enemy

>What fucking choice did they have?
Not contribute to massacres.Not killing, raping and pillaging in eastern Europe. You weren't forced to do so with a gun to your head.

Spotted the Internal Jew

Here's a source for you: mp.gov.si/fileadmin/mp.gov.si/pageuploads/mp.gov.si/PDF/poprava_krivic/Crimes_committed_by_Totalitarian_Regimes.pdf

>.gov
Good goy

What is war?

"Nazi" party.

Tell me more about this "Nazi" party.

da joos!

>What is war?
So if I am a soldier I am forced to rape, pillage and kill civilians

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
>inb4 you focus on the "left wing" of the party

>You weren't forced to do so with a gun to your head.
Actually, yes. Yes you were.

In the best of situations you faced legal consequences, in the worst of situations you and your family were killed by the other thousands of soldiers who didn't want to be in your place.

Read up on Stalin's methods for keeping his military in order before you so eagerly start talking about how easy it is to say no to a government.

Provide me some quality sources that refute totalitarian crimes, then.

Apparently so. Ask the soldiers who went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Even US soldiers settling in bases in Japan are raping Japanese women too.

>Wikipedia

Excellent goy.

>What are sources
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party#Notes

You are expected to follow orders. This could and often includes killing civilians.

The rape and pillaging are side effects of the general wear war has the mind. The men and women participating in these acts usually saw their comrades murdered, homes burned down, and spent months in conditions that drove many to suicide. Raping the enemy, and looting what little they have are the only joys these soldiers reduced to animals could get.

What fucking fantasy land have you lived in that you can take interest in Veeky Forums and not understand the basics of war?

He WAS right about what he said, but that doesn't mean he was good. The Nazis were pretty subversive too and did a lot of unprincipled shit even if you take away the genocide meme.

>Stackleberg, Roderick.

You are the best goy I have came across.

Yes, but you have to look at who was doing it and why. The current world is too quick to forget the commonplaces actions that nearly every military took part in.

America and Britain were certainly on the softer side, but even they took part in rampant looting, and the killing of pows.

>The Nazis were pretty subversive too and did a lot of unprincipled shit even if you take away the genocide meme.

Yes good goyim. Tell me more about the nazis.

See .

Anyway, where are you /pol/tards from? I doubt you're from any of the countries that were under Axis occupation.

Why don't you tell me more, enlightened one.

I'm sure you are a well of wisdom in the ocean of goys, and their Jewish puppeteers.

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT GOYIM! I AM THE LAST OF MY FAMILY AND WE ALL GOT TURNED INTO SOAP!!!!!

Never forget the six gojillian.

They dindu nothing, clearly

/pol/ really is the lamest of all the boards. If you have to shit up other boards, you may as well think up of something new to write.
So, are you an American? A German?

Normally when one refers to "the nazis" they mean the people making decisions about policy and the people in the party carrying out that policy. Just because not everyone was a lunatic doesn't mean that calling "the nazis" shitty people is misplaced, there isn't a need to add a disclaimer "but I'm sure some were nice people" every time.

>did a lot of unprincipled shit
>dindu nuffin

Pick one.

Here comes the >le /pol/ meme again

Do you goy have anything else to rebuttal with?

>people make the claim that you can't generalize the nazis all into one camp because surely they weren't evil
>seem to unironically have no problem blaming "the jews" for everything just because of a jew shitty jews

If these people can propose that "because some nazis in decisionmaking positions behaved immorally doesn't mean all nazis were immortal" why do they struggle so hard to conclude "because some jews in decisionmaking positions behaved immorally doesn't mean all jews are immoral"?

Do you think that shit like "YESS GOOD GOYIM" is worthy of a strong rebuttal?

When you're spouting shitty /pol/ memes with nothing of value in your post, you get treated like you're a /pol/ shitposter. Shocking, isn't it?

I'm waiting for you. I provided a source and only got the usual joo stuff in return.

Because reactionaries do not enjoy facts, they enjoy fantasies that allow themselves to feel superior.

You're right, there isn't. The problem isn't that they don't add a disclaimer, it is that is that everyone involved with "the nazis" is treated in some way like a criminal, and in schools (at least American) the entire country of Germany might as well have been composed of comic book villains.

I get why this happens, but this doesn't mean I like it.

Just stop. He knows this isn't /pol/, and that he can't post his infographics as an argument. Wait for him to return to his stormfront circle jerk because God knows his arguments could never hold up unless 20 other stormposters join him in spouting the same bullshit while calling everyone else "JIDF" and "goys".

Since you're too chickenshit to post your infographics, have one of mine.

Yet another >le /pol/ response

Lol you never learn, do you?

>Because Jews do not enjoy facts, they enjoy fantasies that allow themselves to feel superior.

Fixed that for you. Think before you self project.

Thanks, I'm saving this.

>everything i don't agree with is a stormfront

>uses typical /pol/ memes
>cries when called out for it
Again, let's see some sources that Hitler dindu nuffin.

>everything stormfront says about the holocaust and Germany is a fucking lie
fixed that for you

gimme those sources on Hitlers kill everyone who didn't have blonde hair and he wanted to invade the entire
Their probably more trustworthy than you white guilt faggots

>gimme those sources on Hitlers kill everyone who didn't have blonde hair and he wanted to invade the entire

What's with you retards and just substituting completely different arguments to argue against rather than actually addressing literally anything the person is actually saying?

>white guilt
>you cannot possibly love the white race without loving Hitler
You're either fucking with me, or one of the few retards stormfront has managed to brainwash this deeply.

Either way, keep going. I'm interested in seeing what garbage you're going to manage to post next. I hope you are enjoying all these (you)'s.

Nice strawman. I have given you a source that writes of the national socialist and fascist crimes (as well as communist crimes). Either provide your own sources or fuck off.

Also, I'm a nationalist. I would be a traitor if I was a Hitler worshipper like you. Again, I will presume that you do not live in a country that was occupied by the Axis; if you are, you're even more stupid than you seem.

>(However, don't even act like rape wasn't encouraged and expected with Soviet and German forces.)
youtu.be/LQdDnbXXn20?t=2m17s

>engage in a discussion on history
>dodges whenever sources are needed

>uses typical /pol/ memes
>dindu nuffin

Lol

Some didn't just as some Soviet forces looked at others in their army as pigs for what they did to women and children

I will take back my use of the word "encouraged" as I was thinking of Stalin's justification for the gruesome acts committed by both sides, but expected still applies. This isn't to say that you should expect to be violently raped whenever the Germans showed up, but it wasn't a one in a million occurrence.

I will say the German military was incredibly respectful to those women fighting on the Soviet side. There was a policy of not touching the female soldiers if captured up until the Germans realized they were fucking animals on the battlefield like every other Soviet, and realized their men would probably never get the chance to touch them since the Soviet troops would sooner run into a minefield than risk being labeled a deserter and shot by their own comrades.

I take back everything I've ever said about Christposters.

Stormfags are 10,000x worse.

They have gotten worse over the years. I feel many of them moved to cripplechan or came to Veeky Forums and calmed down after they didn't have to be associated with the real trash of /pol/.

You're demanding sources for things nobody claimed in this thread, to avoid verifying any of your own claims. You're busy instead arguing with a strawman you constructed, demanding people verify claims YOU pretend they made, because you're too busy with your own fantasy arguments and imaginary enemies than the actual things said in the thread.

Naw, you Sjws are the worse