Been interested in the Spanish Civil War thanks to Hearts of Iron 4. What do you guys recommend I read/watch to learn about it?
Been interested in the Spanish Civil War thanks to Hearts of Iron 4...
Everything is slightly biased. It wasn't just about republicans and monarchists but for most people nazis vs commies and all the good books and documentaries are always like "yeah the republicans did some bad stuff but the Franko's forces were still way worse." even though it's much better for everyone that Franko won rather than Spain becoming a communist shithole that would probably aid Stalin. Not to mention it's actually offensive to all the victims of the communist forces to basically dismiss as unimportant.
not for any historical value but 'For Whom the Bell Tolls' is probably Hemingway's greatest work.
I watched this doc series and found it to be decent
you sound pretty biased yourself user
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I found the ebook of this and will give it a read. I've only read a Farewell to Arms and enjoyed it.
Stanley Payne's books
The Portraitists of Power episode on Franco
Last Crusade: Spain 1936 by Warren H. Carroll
If you developed an interest in Spain in general I would also recommend Carroll's book on Queen Isabella
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Watching this, seems good so far
the earth?
Of course it's biased, because as pointed out everything is. But George Orwell's Homage to Catalonia is pretty good.
If you want a movie its not very historically accurate but La lengua de la mariposa is beautiful.
It's pretty highly rated online. I'll make sure to watch it.
I think I'll finish up this documentary series, read For Whom the Bell Tolls and Homage to Catalonia, watch that film, and then read some more scholarly works.
Just finished reading that not long ago 2bh. Great book.
>tfw you'll never witness 1936 Anarcho-Socialist Barcelona before Leninist scumbags ruined it
If you know spanish pretty much 50% of the literature in that country is either about the war and/or Franco.
And movies. And theatre, and EVERYTHING. We have a serious problem about it. No one cares for these things nowadays. No one. But the industry keeps making them.
I agree. I almost learn to hate history thanks to that. I had to grow an interest for history outside of Spain and for a long time until I started reading about medieval stuff that included the peninsula I wasn't interested in the history of our country.
That's a shame, but understandable. It's a lot like how WW2 movies got cliched at a certain point here in the US.
everything I know about it comes from " Pan's labyrinth"
nothing else to say about it other than it being a chimpout between proto-Spics
Not really.
It was less republicans (communists) vs nationalists (facists) and the Nationalists, consisting of nationalists, traditionalists, facists, conservatives, the army, and others unified under Franco while the Republicans, consisting of republicans, progressives, communists, anarchists, the navy, and other did not unify and were beaten by Franco. Also Franco wasn't really a facist, per se, more just a traditional dictator
here is a doco
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Antony Beevor's book is alright in general but it gets some small things wrong
the main arguments of that book are good though
Homage to Catalonia is a classic and mainly if you want to read more about this Abel Paz does really thorough research and was actually there
Nah it goes beyond that because it also gets into politics sometimes.
Yes really. Even at public schools.
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I'd recommend Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell
Everything that you will get is anti-Franco propaganda,so you will just be wasting your time unless you want to read the same rhethoric all the time
>Even at public schools.
maybe you are exaggerating a bit mate, there was a boom of civil war movies and literature a while ago (I mean before 1975 you couldn't do them because of censorship) but I don't think I've seen a spanish movie about the Civil War come out since Pan's Labyrinth and that one wasn't even about the Civil War.
There was a recent civil war movie that won a Goya
Pa negre?
Yep. And there was another one in 2013 that was made for teenagers (having Mario Casas as the protagonist). All Spanish history films except the recent one about the death of Isabel la Católica are all about the civil war
Paul Preston has a book about the republic and the Civil War it must be good since here we had to study it
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>King Carlos II of Navarre once sent his brother Luis to lead a military expedition into Albania and conquer that land for the Kingdom of Navarre. Since Albania was a part of the dowry of Luis' wife, it seemed like a reasonable idea at the time.
What the hell, Navarre, what the hell...
We're not talking about movies but media and culture in general. The civil war-francism set is overrepresented.