Why don't you want to hire literal autists, Veeky Forums?

Why don't you want to hire literal autists, Veeky Forums?

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Because I deal with enough of those here on 4ch

Last year that picture was saying he had ocd. You took the social media bait...

If he had OCD the boxes would be perfectly aligned, which they are not. He simply cares about the categorization, making him an autist.

t. Person with OCD.

same fucking thing
they're all autism spectrum disorders

>Meanwhile, there are a growing number of confused customers trying to find shit, shelves that need to be stocked, and a spill on aisle 3
>Sure is good that Bryan spent an hour autistically arranging those packets, though!
Autists are probably great at jobs that only require doing one specific thing. However, working in a supermarket is definitely not one of those jobs.

I just hired a guy that may be aspie.

I'll come back and let you guys know how it works out.

Autist thinks those things are supposed to be organized. Shit I'd fire him if he spent time organizing a 98 cent candy center over doing actual work.

>pay someone 10.59 hr
>they spend all night arranging a candy bin
>nothing gets done
Sounds great

The point of rummage bins in retail is that you toss all the stock in and let people rummage around to find what they want

trust a fucking autistic walmart employee to ruin it

Know what happened literally 10 mins after that person left? Someone had to go to that display and mess it up again.

When they bring the boxes from the back, they are already organized. They don't come all messed up, they do that shit on purpose.

Why? Because people don't buy from the bins if they are organized. They don't want to mess it up, also, they start to think about the purchase too much. Humans are fucking picky little shits and there is a TON of research done on this kind of psychology.

Like, when you walk into a store like walmart, they put fresh food to the right of the entrance. Why? Because the overwhelming majority of people turn right the second the walk in and our primitive stupid fucking monkey brains are designed to associate fresh foods with health. So you think, oh hey, this place is good for me, I'll buy a fuckton of useless shit from here.

Point of this story? Don't be a fucking autist asshole that sorts the bins, you're ruining someone's day.

>nothing gets done
what are you talking about?

The real work he was hired to do. Not organizing a bin that doesnt need organization

This. As teen used to work in retail, after artists spent all day spring those bins, we'd walk by and undo it back to the unsorted pile, that's what the company wants, people digging through coming across stuff they didn't know they want and impulse buying

That is retarded. That being said, the candy should've been organized when first going up. Each set of candy comes in a different box. You just take it out and place them all down at once. How lazy do you have to be to just throw them all like that?

ORRRRRRRRR they were supposed to be like that. It might not look pretty but it looks like a lot more candy and "digging" for the good stuff means they might buy it more. This kid just lost walmart $2.89... the prick.

didn't read ,my bad ignore

Worked with an autist. Hired him for exactly your logic.

The problem was he was only good at one thing. When it came down to the simple shit. Clean the floor and arrange the furniture nice. Couldn't do it.

The on schedule shit is laughable. It takes hours arguing with an autist to convince them to do shit, if they think its illogical.
Spent 2 hours arguing with autist to call the cable company to pay for the cable & internet b/c I was accross town buying hauling furniture to the house.
Why don't we hire autists. They don't listen, their energy is misdirected and comes in unpredictable bursts. Being customer facing literally breaks them to pieces.
Most business is pretty well organized already, there was a bunch of bullshit, it was difficult, you organized it and made it efficient so it was profitable to engage in it time wise.

Bin was most likely organized before and some little shit messed it up

Each box is only a dollar and even if he was autistic and dedicated to organizing it was probably still a waste of time

It's probably a rummage bin and it doesn't even look trashy, everything's there and nothings crushed

Where the fuck is your blue vest/shirt/wage slave identification uniform

Everything on the shelves is nicely in stock while the bins are clearly disorganized for reasons described already

"On schedule" quit shit posting Bryan and get back to work

Because the moral police would jump up my ass if I took advantage of them; all these damn safety regulations defeat the purpose of hiring disposable workers.

I was diagnosed with Autism, and I can say with absolute certainty that this is why. From my anecdotal evidence regarding my "peers" I can't help but agree. I have spent a great deal of time trying to learn how to not be such a useless fuck.

>I have spent a great deal of time trying to learn how to not be such a useless fuck.

wrong approach IMO.

Use your unique skills to your advantage.

If you have an intense interest/focus on something, don't fight it. Go with it. Find a niche and dive into it, study it.

Lots of people make $$$$ by finding some obscure niche and digging themselves in.

Yeah you're unique and just trying to fall in line is dumb

I bet if the guy in the pic liked coding he could probably hammer away for days on some useful project and then pay for some marketing (use others people skills for yourself) and probably run away with some dosh

Don't prove yourself to others go provide for yourself

>just trying to fall in line is dumb

Yup. There is no such thing as a normie.

It's all the weirdos in tech with the scraggy beards and man buns making $200k+

Life gave you lemons. Stop trying to make apple juice.

You can't operate as a entrepreneur without a well rounded tool kit. If I did not work hard at bettering my social skills, hiding my symptoms, and controlling myself I would be taken advantage of. I have a hard time believing that if someone sees a weak, awkward kid trying to run a business and doing great at it, he is not going to exploit him.

Telling yourself its okay to be weak is the wrong approach.

I'm not trying to cover it up to fall in line, I am trying to mask it to be a better person. Dude, the perception makes the reality. If people think that you are personable, friendly, and outgoing then for all practical purposes you are. If you think that you can make a good living for yourself if everyone thinks you are weak, incompetent, and a fool than you need to fill me in. The scenerio you are imagining of coding is a valid one, but you are leaving out a lot of important details, working for someone else? What kind of a contract does he have set up for his intellectual property? How did he land the job? Is he working for himself? Is he hiring a artist, a animator, what is the project he is coding? You can't just "Hammer away at coding" and expect something good the happen. Just because someone finds monotonous tasks soothing, or enjoyable, does not mean that they will be good at it, or make anything worth while.

Yeah, some of them are, most of them are not. The ones that can make that much are the ones capable of providing services for projects worth a whole hell of a lot of money, and are usually making a whole lot of cash for the pretty, socially adept people that they work for. My stand is going to make more money if I can sell you the best lemonade around, and some decent apple juice on the side.

It's going to take him a bunch of time to organize all that, autism or not. Seems like a waste of paid employee time, if you ask me.

Maybe in like a math/science heavy job, but not organizing shit or talking to customers.

becuase he's organizing a shelf full of 98c items.

he probably spent hours doing that wasting paid wages on some of the cheapest and lowest profit items in the store.

>B-but guys, you're SUPPOSED to rummage through those bins like a third-worlder! That's the point! He ruined EVERYTHING!

Fuck off, bitch ass niggas.

>Telling yourself its okay to be weak is the wrong approach.

Lets be completely honest here... at a certain point, companies hire these workers as a "social service" and for PR, as much as they do for actual productivity.

If you're going for work efficiency and nothing else, you're probably not going to hire handicapped people.

>Telling yourself its okay to be weak is the wrong approach.

I think you misunderstand.

You're not trying to accept your weakness. You're trying to work to your strengths... as unique and niche as they might be.

Can you fusspots address the topic instead of doing the usual "wise and perceptive 14 year old" thing? OP pic clearly shows diligence, even if it's misdirected.

Autists aren't susceptible to emotional manipulation. If you give them a bottle of whisky for Christmas or wish them happy birthday, instead of feeling obliged to repay the cheap kindness with expensive effort, the autist will feel almost molested.

Average people are easy to emotionally entrap, but autists are don't feel guilty or grateful so easily. They are unresponsive to the whole Dale Carnegie routine and see you as a Hare Krishna trying to shove a flower in their hand.

They abandon public venues when the teller or waiter tries to pretend to be their friend, in the same way that other people avoid streets where prostitutes paw at their sleeves.

Unfortunately, they tend to assume other people are equally unresponsive, and their sales techniques mostly consist of telling the truth in a plain and emotionally detached manner.

They would make lousy salesmen or public figureheads. It is difficult to win their loyalty as employees. They can't operate in sync with groups precisely because they don't respond to emotional gestures and only learn how to do them with great effort.

So this leaves solo positions where they don't have co-workers or interaction with customers. They are probably excellent coders, accountants, researchers, and possibly middle managers.

A middle manager is ideally an unambitious and diligent person who is aloof from the workers he manages. He is the cat's paw of the higher ups: he bears the bad news, he enforces the rules, he dispenses punishments and rewards. You don't want your manager to be in thick with the proles. This is probably why Jews have done so well in small businesses: they have no sympathy for their Goy workers. An autist would operate similarly, except he has no loyalty to anything but his own rigid rituals. Give him the right rituals, and he's yours.

And you can legally pay them less than minimum wage, so it's a win win

(When they're not sperging out on your customers or shitting themselves)

I think you're going for a very specific definition of "autist."

Most people on the spectrum can function just fine in social situations.

And no, this isn't wisdom form a 14yo...

Hiring manager at a tech company in santa clara.

We have a guy with "adhd" that literally takes some of the strongest drugs out there on a daily basis so he can be "normal".

He's an aswesome architecht and if he didn't tell us he's on medication, we probably wouldn't even know... we'd just think he's a typical engineer.

>combative and non-compliant to being managed, hard headed
>singularly focused, unable to multitask
>bad interpersonal skills - won't react to social cues and act inappropriately
>can't convey their thoughts well beyond going on rants about their aspie fixations

Aspies are best left to themselves and their obsessions.

Because I can't trust that their motivations are in line with what's good for the company

>And you can legally pay them less than minimum wage, so it's a win win

yeah... not sure where the hell you're getting this from

Speculated to have Asperger's Syndrome
Abraham Lincoln,1809-1865, US Politician
Alan Turing, 1912-1954, English mathematician, computer scientist and cryptographer
Albert Einstein, 1879-1955, German/American theoretical physicist
Alexander Graham Bell, 1847-1922, Scottish/Canadian/American inventor of the telephone
Anton Bruckner , 1824-1896, Austrian composer
Bela Bartok, 1881-1945, Hungarian composer
Benjamin Franklin,1706-1790, US polictician/writer
Bertrand Russell, 1872-1970, British logician
Bobby Fischer, 1943-2008, World Chess Champion
Carl Jung, 1875-1961, Swiss psychoanalyst
Charles Rennie Mackintosh, 1868-1928, Scottish architect and designer
Emily Dickinson, 1830-1886, US poet
Erik Satie, 1866-1925 - Composer
Franz Kafka, 1883-1924, Czech writer
Friedrich Nietzsche, 1844-1900, German philosopher
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950, Irish playwright, writer of Pygmalion, critic and Socialist
George Washington, 1732-1799, US Politician
Gustav Mahler, 1860-1911, Czech/Austrian composer
Marilyn Monroe, 1926-1962, US actress
H P Lovecraft, 1890-1937, US writer
Henry Cavendish, 1731-1810, English/French scientist, discovered the composition of air and water
Henry Ford, 1863-1947, US industrialist
Henry Thoreau, 1817-1862, US writer
Isaac Newton, 1642-1727, English mathematician and physicist
Jane Austen, 1775-1817, English novelist, author of Pride and Prejudice
Kaspar Hauser, c1812-1833, German foundling, portrayed in a film by Werner Herzog
Ludwig II, 1845-1886, King of Bavaria
Ludwig Wittgenstein, 1889-1951,

Historical people
Alfred Hitchcock, 1899-1980, English/American film director
Andy Kaufman, 1949-1984, US comedian, subject of the film Man on the Moon
Andy Warhol, 1928-1987, US artist.
Charles Schulz, 1922-2000, US cartoonist and creator of Peanuts and Charlie Brown
Glenn Gould, 1932-1982, Canadian pianist
Hans Asperger, 1906-1980, Austrian paediatric doctor after whom Asperger's Syndrom is named
Howard Hughes, 1905-1976, US billionaire
Isaac Asimov, 1920-1992, Russian/US writer on science and of science fiction, author of Bicentennial Man
Jim Henson, 1936-1990, creator of the Muppets, US puppeteer, writer, producer, director, composer
John Denver, 1943-1997, US musician
L S Lowry, 1887-1976, English painter of "matchstick men"
Contemporary People
Al Gore, 1948-, former US Vice President and presidential candidate
Bill Gates, 1955-, Entrepreneur and philanthropist. A key player in the personal computer revolution.
Bob Dylan, 1941-, US singer-songwriter
Charles Dickinson, 1951, US Writer
Crispin Glover, 1964-, US actor
David Helfgott, 1947-, Australian pianist, subject of the film Shine
Garrison Keillor, 1942-, US writer, humorist and host of Prairie Home Companion
Genie, 1957-?, US "wild child" (see also L'Enfant Sauvage, Victor, )
James Taylor, 1948-, US singer/songwriter
Jamie Hyneman, 1956-, Co-host of Mythbusters
Jeff Greenfield, 1943-, US political analyst/speechwriter, a political wonk
John Motson, 1945-, English sports commentator
John Nash, 1928-, US mathematician (portrayed by Russell Crowe in A Beautiful Mind, USA 2001)
Joseph Erber, 1985-, young English composer/musician who has Asperger's Syndrome, subject of a BBC TV documentary
Kevin Mitnick, 1963-, US "hacker"
Michael Palin, 1943-, English comedian and presenter
Oliver Sacks, 1933-, UK/US neurologist, author of The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat and Awakenings

To me... there is a fine line between Aspie, Autist, Obsessive, & Genius...

Obviously we're not talking about he helmet wearers and more about a specific group on the spectrum.

Your posts were on point.

I have the Glenn Gould kind of autist in mind, and also myself. I've never really been forced to be normal, so maybe I've gone feral compared to the average autist.

I wouldn't consider ADHD autistic, though it's probably genetically related. A dead end in a new branch of human evolution, sort of the Neanderthals of atypical neurology - though Neanderthal DNA survives, as will ADHD DNA.

>cherry picking

Seriously though I don't even hate aspies; but the non-high functioning ones with average IQ that I've met have been pretty insufferable. Like ones who think arranging candy boxes on the clock is a good idea.

The people who first started building walls in right angles probably also seemed unreasonable to the people who didn't understand their reasoning.

I'm not saying it was worth his time. I'm saying the instinct to organise is rare and valuable.

> cherry picking

Yes, but these are some of the best goddamned cherries in history, no?

Again, we're talking about different parts of the spectrum.

I don't want to be unfair and put expectations on the helmet wearers to become world leaders or something.

That image is dumb. Big box retailers don't want organized stores or perfect schedules.

>Speculated to have Asperger's Syndrome
>bunch of dead people
That's like making a list of which historical men were cut and uncut and using it in an argument.

How does spending significant paid time organizing $0.98 boxes add value to the business

I don't want to meet real life /pol/tards

ocd is not on the spectrum, you dumbfuck.

You can't see past the end of your nose. That autist probably has no education, but he's programmable.

This is like looking at a picture of a robotic arm bouncing a ball and saying "lol who needs a ball bouncing arm"

can confirm that this is a trait common with autism. specifically stacking. frankly, i think we could make forklift driving more ethical by hiring people who have a fucking blast

They don't get paid less than minimum wage, but you can sometimes get subsidies (aka "diversity bucks") for hiring people with clinically diagnosed disabilities/handicaps.

>Being customer facing literally breaks them to pieces.
That's literally one of the issues with autism. Can't deal with people.

>It takes hours arguing with an autist to convince them to do shit, if they think its illogical.
Gotta make it seem logical, then. Or at least introduce the logic of 'you're being paid to do it, so do it if you want to get paid'.

>Spent 2 hours arguing with autist to call
Phone call = social situation = can't deal.

>their energy is misdirected and comes in unpredictable bursts
You don't know how to direct it properly, then.

I have aspergers. I used to be valued in an electronics job, because I could get the job exactly right. I worked out a system of getting it right, and stuck to the system. I'd sit there and do similar stuff over and over, and get it right, and not waste time chatting.
When a stock-take needed doing, I was the only one with the patience to sit down and get on with it for two days straight.
After a while, they asked why they couldn't find more people like me.

My current job relies on organising things, and getting the right things to the right place at the right time. I was given a set of problems, and set about solving them.

The trick is to put autistic people in roles that take advantage of the useful traits, and don't make them deal with customers all the time, or phone calls.

yup, i work as a cashier in a small town (~10k people) while working through college. About 4 of the 10 baggers that work there are mentally challenged somehow. Not like pants on head downsy retarded, but like autistic or something. Customers like seeing the mouthbreathers earning their min. wage, and they follow orders from the managers well.

>I once did it for government bucks
>He was great at cleaning and organization
>Got every task done
>Just took three times as long so not really worth it

Tax breaks. And you can pay them below minimum wage.

>The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) provides for the employment of certain individuals at wage rates below the mini mum wage. These individuals include student-learners (vocational education students), as well as full-time students employed by retail or service establishments, agriculture, or institutions of higher education. Also included are individuals whose earning or productive capacity is impaired by a physical or mental disability, including those related to age or injury, for the work to be performed

dol.gov/general/topic/wages/subminimumwage

are you a retard?

Came here to say this. I would maybe buy a few boxes from the messed up bin because it's like a treasure hunt; kinda fun.
With the organized ones I'd have a hard time making a decision and probably just get nothing.
Also I'd start thinking like
>oh there are less Goobers boxes than anything else, they must be the best candy, I'll get those
>oh wait maybe they were the least popular and Walmart decided not to order more.
>maybe they've been there like a year and just won't sell, I'm not gonna be the idiot that buys this shitty old candy
>leave store entirely for tricking me

What this guy doesn't realize is that companies don't want these products to look neat. They need to look like they're being constantly scrambled and people tend to grab more easily into a pile than into neatly ordered stacks.
You can bet your ass it's scrambled again the next day

Seriously? Fucking seriously? This triggers me.

>tfw when I think all of these apply to me
>tfw when I once got a score of '90% + certain to have aspergers' on that official test
>Read a book about aspergers and I related to a lot of what was written in it
>Grew up making lists, memorising people's birthdays and reading catalogues

Maybe I do have it but I don't know what difference it would really make knowing 2bh. I've always felt a bit different from everyone else, but then most people do I guess

>hire literal autists
we have a guy like that, he is creeping everyone out especially the women they don't feel safe around him. he also smells horrible and lives with his mom even tho he is like 50.

it's not fun.

Retail fag here.

It's good that he wants shit to be organized, but that's for the shelf, not a big basket where you dump random sale shit. The point of that bin is that you dump excess product in it and not give a fuck. Within 24 hours all that work he did will be undone by nignogs and white trash pawing through it with their fat fingers to find their favorite high fructose corn chunks.

The shelf is another matter. Where I work, these cunts can't put shit in the right place to save their fuckin lives. There are 2 sets of numbers to reference to make sure you're stocking it in the right spot and they still fuck up.

In that instance, I'd kill to have this aspie motherfucker in my store, instead of this 5'9, 330 lb lazy cunt that was hired because he came out of the cunt of one of the department managers. Stinks so bad I think there might be something wrong with him.

the only time where the random bins piss me off is when it's CD's and movies.

Dude, we know. If you had read the thread, you would have seen the 3-4 posts prior to yours saying essentially the same thing.

Anyway, you're not special, your ideas aren't special, and you should read before you comment to understand what has already been said. You really think this thread made it to 50+ replies without someone pointing that out? Come on now.

confirmed as having Asperger's

Elliot Rodger

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