Roses are red

York a shit, Lancs confirmed for master race.

Here's a joke from my dear departed Grandfather- "You can always tell a Yorkshireman, but you can't tell him much!"

>Flint of the Widow's Watch
>Glover of Deepwood Motte
>Burley

These are goat tier shields

Most of Yorkshire, including the city of York itself, were sympathetic to Lancaster.

game of thrones.....

Well York is winning today. It's a major tourist city of England, well known, wealthy, has a ton of historical significance and historical sites and is a very nice place to live.

Lancaster is lacking in all those things.

Goes to prove you just can't trust 'em.

Liverpool is the countries biggest port and Manchester is the "Northern capital".

Nobody cares about York! It's even less relevant nowadays than Bournemouth!

LYANNA MORMONT FTW!

Jealous chavs

IT WAS A DRAW

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

York master race

Wait a second

>Mormont

Holy shit, it just occurred to me that Jorah the Andal is from Bear Island.

she did

>Die giving birth to the child of your lancastrian conqueror
>win

Is this the most flamboyant war in history?

And Jeor Mormont is his dad.

you ever see an Aztec Warband take on a Mayan Warband?

It is more flamboyant than two brokeback softies sharing a fruit cup.

A Lancastrian claimant took the throne in the end, but the actual House of Lancaster was defunct by then.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VII_of_England

You serious nigger? He fought beside Ned Stark in during the Greyjoy Rebellion and was one of the first men over the walls when Pyke was stormed by the royal army.

Also, it's kinda funny that Jorah is referred to as an Andal when northern houses take pride in their First Men heritage. It'd be like calling a dude from Brazil a white guy just because he has ancestors from Portugal lol.

>Jorah the Andal
>Not even an Andal

Just like The Wire

most important cities in Lancashire are Lancaster and Blackpool.
I'd say bournemouth is more important than fucking blackpool.

How did it just occur to you when they fucking said so in both the books and the show?

Everything that was wielded or worn in the Sengoku Jidai was primarily made for showing off.

You got a point

France

Wyman the Pieman will have his vengeance, in this life or the next.

The North remembers.

They left out House Forrester

Karstarks have a pretty nice shield too.

Karstarks are gonna pay for their betrayl

>Betraying betrayers

italian wars
napoleonic wars

The Welsh.

Indeed...

>House Forrester
because it was made up for a shitty game from shitty studio

FUCK YOU MY FAMILY FOUGHT WITH THE WHITE ROSE REEEEEEE

Richard of York had a better claim than Henri VI...

Worth reading?

France

>Dispensing justice for a crime is a betrayal

Fucking Karststarks

i think it was a good book just read the first one

>Conn Iggulden
He was shit in Genghiz Khan
He was shit with his Roman Schtick.
He is going to be shit there.

Robb Stark didn't have to kill him tho. Could have just taken him as an hostage

how many white roses do you see nowadays

frey pies man

Not if you need care about any kind of historical accuracy or basic storytelling.

Started reading the first one, Storm bird, and it was shit. He makes the duke of York litterally a Nazi to tell the reader that he's the bad guy. He is also still apparently the bad guy for ignoring the calls for help from the English settlers in Normandy, even though he wants to and had been specifically ordered not to by the king. The English insurgents have saexs. They fight Frenchman with armoured codpieces. There is a lengthy discussion about dead French soldiers still having erections that served no purpose other than padding the word count.

I stopped reading shortly after that. May have got better but I doubt it.

>it just occurred to me

Even for a showfag you're a fucking idiot.

Robb Stark was a fucking retard who deserved what he got.

That is correct

69 white roses

It actually existed before the games

Richard III did nothing wrong

I feel as if there should be a political fantasy series based on the Thirty Years War. Much more significant and long lasting than some succession crisis.

I might get around to writing a novel one day. One day

Dustin of Barrowton is great heraldry

Beggars can't be Tudors anyway

as literally a footnote, two words amongs millions fat lazy shat out over millennia ago when he first started the cycle

Not wromg...

It was mentioned in the books as well, and GRRM oversaw the initial story of the games, even though I suspect Telltale dropped much of it, considering we didn't get much out of the north grove, especially not what the fuck it is good for.

Are the games good?

to be fair his father would have done the same

His father was an idiot too

Why not?

You mean exactly like every other house on that picture, which have a one line passing mention and are never brought up again?

The Welsh.

Y O R K
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R
K

You wished!

Depends on how you define the Wars of the Roses. You could say they ended in 1471 with the decisive Yorkist victory at Tewkesbury.

Tudors claim as a Lancastrian heir was ridiculously distant and tenuous and so many of his supporters were members of Edwards court who refused to be ruled by Richard, Bosworth was much more of a Yorkist power struggle than a continuation of the WotR.

The war ended when Henry Tudor defeated Richard III

It would be a great series.

What second son of Henry V? If henry VI died then his uncle would have succeeded him

>Murder two political hostages against express orders, putting your family in danger and making you look like a weak leader who can't control his men

He was fully justified in taking his head off.

And the people fighting against Richard were mostly other Yorkists, backed up by French mercenaries.

I seem to recall in the show at least, that Karstark kills at least one of the Stark soldiers who is guarding the room as well yet noone, not even Robb, gives a shit.

Feudalism is such a ridiculous way of ruling I can't believe they didn't understand that even then

>king has too many sons
>primogeniture succession
>sons who aren't about to succeed get ducal titles and lots of land anyway because fuck it, they're in the line and need an income or prestige or whatever
>son about to succeed dies before his father but leaves a young son
>king dies
>infant son is king
>gets usurped by greedy uncle
>series of usurpation, scheming and general backstabbery and a fight to death/blood feuds happen because whatever ruler decreed that they would be disinherited so they have nothing to lose
>bloodbath ensues

Like seriously it's a recipe for disaster and endless political instability until everyone's dead and there's nobody left to fight and some other crony swoops in and takes the throne

It's the Chinese fault. They were the ones who invented it

orly?

Because ultimately a peasant on sentry duty is worthless and expendable.

Two highborn political hostages are worth quite a bit.

If a lord kills a peasant, a particularly righteous lord might give a shit but most would give him a slap on the wrist given his station.

But he could have kept the Karstark as a hostage until the end of the war

RETARD ALERT

Richard ruined everything just cause

Ya

>pardons the woman who let their most valuable hostage and the killer of Karstark's sons go free

Robb Stark was a hypocrite.

Nah, the first two rows have important characters

They're shit, an ice dragon was promised but it never appeared

And great characters.
>As the singers tell it, Lord Roderick was blood from head to heel as he came on, with splintered shield and cracked helm, yet so drunk with battle that he did not even seem to feel his wounds

The Lannisters have northern hostages as well though, who knows what they would've done to them in revenge

That shit only happens if the king is weak or there isn't a clear successor

He should have killed the Karstark lord and taken sons from every minor Karstark noble.

Best character is still lyanna

That happened a lot

That could be a possibility