Early 1900's

>early 1900's
>more prosperous and wealthy than Canada and most of Western Europe
>2001
>essentially a failed state with an economy melting down similar to modern day Venezuela

When did it all go wrong?

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Jaja nothing is wrong, everything is muy bien jajaja you know the real problem? BRITAIN STOLE OUR ISLANDS!

Populism à la Perón

US cold-war influence

All of South America is basically fucked at this point, not a single true succes story stands out

According to some ederly people from my country that lived there for many years, 1970 was the year when everything started to go wrong.
You can start from here your research.

this.

The Cold War is 90% of the reasons every fucked up country today is fucked up.

yeaaaah, blame it on the foreigners

LA DICTADURAAAAAAAAAAA

Argentina became prosperous by exporting wheat and beef to the British Empire.

Once the British Empire was gone, and most of it's land start producing it's own food thanks to the Green Revolution, their competitive advantage became obsolete.

People who blame Perón are deluded. He dindu nuffin wrong, he tried to change the country economy, industrializing the country. It was the old elite, who still thought they could become rich and prosperous by agriculture alone, who fucked up the country with their military coups and liberal economic policies.

Military junta and cult of Peron

Peronism is cancer.

Also, they never built up strong institutions or moved onto a secondary industrial economy.

Think of one of those countries that comes into a shitload of money from oil or mining, and then does nothing of value with it.

That's more or less Argentina.

its fucking true

>30s coup to establish jeiwsh central bank
>55 neoliberal dictatorship
>Democratic government again
>2 coups
>70s neo liberal andti people dictatorship
>800s Marekt coup, president resigns
>90s Neoliberal puppet government privatizes literally everything does exactly what Europeans did to cause the 2008 crisis. In Argentina it was in 2001. Same crisis
>01 crisis, Coup again
>Kirchnerism continued with the 90s policies albeit instead of subsidizing the currency at first they subsidized the multinationals through subsidizing consumption while importing millions of niggers from nearby countries
>money run out
>We now have another uber neoliberal ultra jew american puppet who is already going to establish american military bases

>Its Argentina's fault
>Its totally not the US

Why is Japan an industrialized country then.

They were occupied by the US for 7 years, and they still depend on the US for their defense.

Hint: It's because you can't have a strong country without strong institutions, and Argentina never developed strong enough rule of law to support a successful economy.

The US needed a proxy to hold china off

same shit they didn't follow through with the destruction of Germany's industry

>and Argentina never developed strong enough rule of law to support a successful economy.
Except it fucking did

1880s up until the 30s coup was the richest it has ever been

In the 40s it was getting industrialized, all consumer goods were produced here. Peron had a 3 period plan, first consumption industry then the agrarian sector then the primary sector. He got couped after the first one by a US backed coup

BUt then the 55 dictatorship came and undid all it could. They even approved a fucking constitution without calling for a constitutional assembly

During all Argentina's history it was always meddled with by foreingers

You have no idea the US backed coups did to the country. We had Hyperinflation multiple times during illegitimate governments

But don't worry they are already doing the EXACT same that happened here in Europe and the EXACT same will happen in America sooner or later, once it has outlived its usefulness

US cold war foreign policy did fuck up a lot of shit in South America, the middle east and Africa though.

>1880s up until the 30s coup

Could this have something to do with refrigeration and international shipping driving up the price of beef, and Argentina being one of the best places in the world to grow beef?

>In the 40s it was getting industrialized, all consumer goods were produced here. Peron had a 3 period plan, first consumption industry then the agrarian sector then the primary sector. He got couped after the first one by a US backed coup

Import substitution industrialization doesn't work. This is actually one of the primary reasons Latin America didn't industrialize as quickly as East Asia, who used export driven industrialization schemes that actually work.

>During all Argentina's history it was always meddled with by foreingers

I think you guys actually got fucked with less than Chile.

Besides, weren't half of these coups the work of Peronists themselves?

>Could this have something to do with refrigeration and international shipping driving up the price of beef, and Argentina being one of the best places in the world to grow beef?
No. It had all to do with the fucking country getting unified, industrialized and modernize . Tons of railway were built, tons of mines were open, tons of factories to process that shit were open, the national education system was created, bunch of frigorifics were created. The creation of a national merchant fleet and a ton of other shit

>Import substitution industrialization doesn't work. This is actually one of the primary reasons Latin America didn't industrialize as quickly as East Asia, who used export driven industrialization schemes that actually work.
>Having manufacturing industry doesn't work
It was working well up until the coup which removed all trade barriers, sold national industry enabled financial meddling by foreingers and other shit that every sold out did

>I think you guys actually got fucked with less than Chile.
Like fucking 12+ coups throuhg out history
>Probably as many years of illigitimate governments as legitimate ones
>Multiple presidents forced to resignation who had no power during their government because of groups influenced by foreign campaigns
>Less meddled with
>Chile is still a massive shithole that gets their money from copper mines and nothing else

The 30's coups had nothing to do with the US. By that time, the US practiced isolationism and was going through a depression.

Said coup happened because Argentina's economy was in the gutter due to said depression and because Yrigoyen was utterly ignorant as to how bad the economic situation was.

Argentina has defaulted on its loans more than any other country in history. The US certainly didn't help, but don't pretend local factors and Peronism didn't make things worse.

So I'm actually looking into this.

What I'm getting is.

>Argentinian rightists had an unhealthy fixation with using the military to solve political problems
>most of Argentina's leadership in the 20th century was economically illiterate
>Peron was a shithead
>Peronism is unmitigated cancer
>none of the powerful factions in Argentinian politics had any real respect for rule of law
>Argentinian history between the 1930 coup and the fall of the last junta in 83 was characterized by warfare between leftists and rightists, neither of whom had any idea how to run a country well
>after the last batch of shitheads raised the body count into the tens of thousands, the Argentinians finally wised up that a constitutional republic with rule of law is a good idea, something the US realized in the 1770s
>there is a reason Argentina has consistently done worse than Uruguay or Chile

The 30s coup was the fucking british kikes (not Britain)

Who enabled the creation of a central bank which was run exclusively by jews

> Yrigoyen was utterly ignorant as to how bad the economic situation was.
>Created the national oil omdustry from the scratch
>regulated the railway and foreing companies
>Defended German industries in Argentina during WW1
Of course he had to go

>ARgentina defaulted on debt THAT IT SHOULDNT HAVE PAID BECAUSE IT WAS CAUSED BY ILLEGITIMATE GOVERNMETNS AND INTERNATIONAL LAW SAYS YOU DONT HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO PAY IT
>THE DEBT WAS SO BIG THERE WAS HYPERINFLATION IN THE 80s
>THE GOVERNMENT TRIED TO CREATE A NEW CURRENCY PEGGED TO THE DOLLAR TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE DEBTS BUT SINCE THE COUP HAD LEFT A BUNCH OF TRAITORS WHO RESPOND TO INTERNATIONAL INTERESTS THEY DID A MARKET COUP WHICH MEANT NO DOLLARS WHICH MEANT HYPERINFLATION AGIN
>THEN THE NEWOLIBERAL UBBER PUPPET MENEM CAME PRIVATISED EVERYTHING THAT WAS LEFT< DISMANTLED THE INFRASTRUCTURE CUT SOCIAL SREVICES REMOVED TRADE BARRIERS INCLUDING CHINA WHO SOLD EVERYTHING FOR AF RACTIon. NATIONALIZED THE DEBT OF COMPANIES WHO HAD GONE BANKRUPT ON PURPOSE TO STEAL FROM THE TREASURY, EMPTIED THE RESERVES WHICH LED TO ANOTHER CRISIS AND COUP
>THEN THE KIRCHNER CAMES AND SIGNED ALL SORT OF SHIT THAT MADE ARGENTINA LOSE SOVEREIGNTY AND KEPT WITH THE STATE DESTRUCTION PLAN AND AFRICANIZATION OF THE COUNTRY
>ALL WITH THE EXCUSE OF A ILLEGITIMATE DEBT WE SHOULDNT BE PAYING IN THE FIRST PLACE

Here's a tip.

People do not care why you can't pay them back their money.

They care about getting their money back.

This is why there are sophisticated mechanisms for creditor countries to wreck debtor countries who don't pay up.

Given that Argentina has been democratic since 1983, I don't think this is a viable explanation for their continuing economic woes.

>Argentina aristocracy was linked to the british one as they exporeted their shit to britian
>The rest of Argentinean rich people were traitors that did fuckery in Argentina with the help of kike british bankers
>The core of the country is fucked
>GLorious governments made Argentina first world
>The US doesnt want competition and Britain and Kikes who control Britain want shekels
>BRITISH/KIKE Coup and kike central bank
>Peron comes and does every hitler did in germany, mass nationalization, mass industrialization, workers rights,etc
>US BACKED COUP
>new government comes it has some power
>It has to resign
>New pero government
>US BACKED UP
>All political parties fuse into one giant clusterfuck and they call that peronism
>Peron comes back
>GIant clusterfuck chimps out as they want control of the country
>They are all commie and jew infiltrates
>The dictatorship had created different groups of power on purpose that were as strong as the government
>Democratic president comes
>US BACKED COUP
>Menem comes and does the jew US bidding
>New president comes
>US BACKED COUP
>Kirchners come along
>multiple coups attempts hwich i dont understand since they did everything the US wanted
>NEW US PUPPET IN POWER

>THAT IT SHOULDNT HAVE PAID BECAUSE IT WAS CAUSED BY ILLEGITIMATE GOVERNMETNS AND INTERNATIONAL LAW SAYS YOU DONT HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO PAY IT
That's not how it works. Those governments signed contracts obligating the country to pay back the loans. The UK is still paying down loans taken from 1723, the US is still paying out WWII bonds, Germany and Japan just recently completed its final payments after renegotiating their war debt. It didn't matter that they were created under previous administrations.

It hasn't been democratic you piece of shit. 2 fucking coups in 3 decades and 2+ of those 3 decades have been by the same people

Pro tip

Unless you are from western Europe Japan China or America you can bet your ass off they are going to try to destroy the country as much as it can to ransack it. Look at Greece

Now its Europes turn to suffer and when theres nothing left the US will be destroyed and the world will be one giant shithole filled with niggers

wait there were more coups but you get the idea

>That's not how it works
YES IT FUCKING DOES

THAT SHIT IS TILL OPEN NO GOVERNMENT HAS TOUCHED IT NOR INVESTIGATED IF THE DEBTS ARE NOT MADE UP

BECAUSE THEY WOULD GET COUPED AND THE REST BECAUSE THEY ARE TRAITORS

See, there are things here I agree with.

>a self interested corrupt aristocracy

This is a chronic problem in Latin America. I think it derives from Spanish society, especially the tendency towards plantation agriculture.

>too many fucking coups

I don't think foreign intervention was necessary here, just prolonged civil strife and a military that was never fully subservient to civilian governments.

I don't think you need burgers and bongs and kikes to make the pieces fit.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the prosperity at the turn of the 20th century was a typical commodities boom, which is always going to be temporary, because global commodities prices are unstable.

Honestly, I think if the governments in Argentina did everything the US wanted, they'd be better off. The US does a fantastic job at making countries, and it would cut down on the leftist impulses that discourage foreign investment and fuck with domestic industry.

Yrigoyen was in his 70's by that point and had never dealt with an economic crises this big. He assumed Argentina could ride out the fallout so did nothing to stop it.

They are still one of the most properous Latinameriacan state. They have the highest HDI and I bet my ass their economy will improve in the next years now that their are no longer under that unsustainable lefty economic model.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odious_debt
In international law, odious debt, also known as illegitimate debt, is a legal theory that holds that the national debt incurred by a regime for purposes that do not serve the best interests of the nation, should not be enforceable. Such debts are, thus, considered by this doctrine to be personal debts of the regime that incurred them and not debts of the state. In some respects, the concept is analogous to the invalidity of contracts signed under coercion.[1]

In December 2008, Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa attempted to default on Ecuador's national debt, calling it illegitimate odious debt, because it was contracted by corrupt and despotic prior regimes.[12] He succeeded in reducing the price of the debt letters before continuing paying the debt.[13]

After the overthrow of Haiti's Jean-Claude Duvalier in 1986, there were calls to cancel Haiti's debt owed to multilateral institutions, calling it unjust odious debt, and Haiti could better use the funds for education, health care, and basic infrastructure.[14] As of February 2008, the Haiti Debt Cancellation Resolution had 66 co-sponsors in the U.S. House of Representatives.[15] Several organizations in the United States issued action alerts around the Haiti Debt Cancellation Resolution, and a Congressional letter to the U.S. Treasury,[16] including Jubilee USA, the Institute for Justice & Democracy in Haiti and Pax Christi USA.

>The US does a fantastic job at making countries
Which ones?

Japan, South Korea, West Germany, Israel...

None of them would have doen shit if the US hadn't told them to trained and helped

The fucking 70s coups in ALL latinamerica was led by people who were trained in panama . THeres fucking proof of this

>The US and Foreing kikes had no responsibility because a part of your country is corrupt, they should have not accepted
>The US britain kikes and whatever didn't have a role in hte destruction of the country through blocking trade which was their staple in the 18000s
>Or enforcing a trade monopoly with Britain
>or biritish industries radicated in Argentina trying as hard as they could to not to allow other countries to invest in the country. This was the case up until the 1900s were Germany and the US took over


>Successful president made the country rich couldn't have dealt with a crisis
>despite he dealt with the WW1 crsisi where ARgentina's goods were unabled to be sold because it fucking defended Germany PLUS british companies did all in their power like create high inflation to coerce the government to close german's industries
The crisis hit AFTER HE WAS COUPED
Argentina grew with WW2 not 1


No it wont. New policiy is to let multinationals in and privatize again. The kirchner merely did the clean up work to prepare for the asshole who is now. I at least hope he sends nigger back to their niggeer countries

Also, they have finally dealt with their debt.
I've heared that some comodities' prices a rising, but that might be parte of the shit-cleaning the new government has to do. iifc there were a lot of products which 's prices had been frozen

>Japan and South korea
>Proxies against china that need to be strong not to be absorved
>West germany was going to be dismantled but since communist was close they needed Germany to be strong
>Israel is founded by all the kike bankers who have stole all the money from the world

And now Europe is being destroyed

Dude argentina was always shithole with nearly no manpower

Japan, South Korea, and West Germany are the examples I was thinking of.

I think the Philippines also improved somewhat under American tutelage, but the US administration there wasn't as capable, and frankly it was a less promising country anyway.

Now Iraq and Afghanistan, that's honestly very hard to quantify because the countries were such shitholes beforehand. Parliamentary democracy in those countries has survived Al-Maliki and Karzai, and ISIS and the Taliban, but those states don't provide many services right now.

I'd have to give the effort a C overall, mostly due to the failure to avert insurgencies in both countries before they became almost impossible to eradicate. I get chills thinking of the atmosphere in Iraq in April of 2003, before the jihadists managed to get the Sunni and Shia at war with one another.

>New policiy is to let multinationals in and privatize again.
I think the '01 crisis is still pretty fresh in their memory to let that happen again.
Also, the new government will have to be a lot more moderate because he is not a Peronista, and Peronistas don't let anyone else rule unless they can have it their way.

He couldn't. His ministers also blindsided him because they didn't want to get fired for a crises they knew they couldn't fix.

>The crisis hit AFTER HE WAS COUPED
Stock market crash: December 1929
Coup: September 1930

>Muh multinationals

>None of them would have doen shit if the US hadn't told them to trained and helped

See, here's the part where I'm not so sure.

What you had with the rise of the radical government, and then the fall of it after the Great Depression was the setup for sustained strife between the left and right wing, with no clear resolution.

France had the same thing happen after their revolution in 1789, and the end result is that they're on their fifth republic, the most recent one coming into force in the 50s.

A representative democracy is a very delicate thing when it's in the developmental phase, and a sudden shock, say, the Great Depression, would be enough to cause a century of turmoil.

>and Peronistas don't let anyone else rule unless they can have it their way.
Fucking this. They will never leave

Yes, the Cold War had Left and Right Guerillas funded by the US and USSR fighting each other, we understand that. That's only part of the reason Latin America was shit.

>I think the Philippines also improved somewhat under American tutelage, but the US administration there wasn't as capable, and frankly it was a less promising country anyway.
The US had plenty of time to mold into a economic powerhouse if they wished to. From what I've seen they didn't really care to.

>Now Iraq and Afghanistan, that's honestly very hard to quantify because the countries were such shitholes beforehand.
When they rebuilt South Korean and Japan neither were in good condition. I believe Iraq could have been done much better if they had a solid plan for development.

>When did all (go) wrong?
Argentine history is left turn after left turn. I swear I felt so frustrantes while learning about it at uni. It is remarcably surprising how well off they are nowadays considering all they've been through.

Argentina only exist in name now. People gave up on the country

he is a fucking jew puppet to the max and the alternative are the fucking niggers

I would fucking mass murder all of them if i had the power

The only thing that can save the country is a coup done by nationalists

>STrife between left and right
>THE OENS WHO LED THE COUP WERE TRAINED BY THE US
>PREVIOUS TO THE COUPS ARGENTINA HAD ALL SORT OF POLITICAL PARTIES RAGING FROM ANARCHISM TO COMMUNISM TO NAZISM TO CONSERVATISM ETC
>ALL LATINAMERICAN COUNTRIES HAD COUPS THAT DID THE SAME POLICIES AND SAID THE SAME SHIT AT THE SAME TIME
>Ill keep ignoring everything and keep repeating the same shit that has already been adressed
>Someone how that people are corrupt means the one who told them what to do and trained, the one who was the prime actor in the whole thing has no responsibility
Yea good goy only look at your government, you were unlucky your country is shit. theres no one puppeteering them its your own fault!

>Debt grew to half the GDP with interest so high they were unrepayable
>Dictatorships focused on creating groups of power as strong as a government to fuck future legitimate governments. As it happened here multiple times
>Dictatorships made all the elite flee
>Dictatorships made all the people uber leftist retards anti authoritarian in whatever from real or made up by the people with this phobia and uber liberal which led to the fucking retarded subhuman newer generations
>Dictatorship at least here made half the coutnry bankrupt
>Dictatorship emptied all central bank reserves and caused hyperinflation MULTIPLE TIMES
>Dictatorship removed all sort of shit from the legislation
>Preparing the terrain from future puppets
>Dictatorship made the puppets have an excuse to disarm the countries
>Dictatorships made all these liberal retards be enthralled by muh human rights which led to mass migration of niggers
>Dictatorship was 3 decades ago only

Well, from what I understand, the Philippines has always had the same aristocracy problem that all Spanish colonies have, plus ethnic and religious divisions and being spread out over a bunch of islands.

It didn't help that the US at this stage was a corrupt shithole, and the US Army that occupied it was the same one that had been fighting the Indian Wars less than a decade earlier.

See, South Korea and Japan was in very bad condition in material economic terms, but they had the culture and traditions of a unified nation-state, and Japan even had some experience as a parliamentary democracy and an industrialized economy.

I've come to view history in terms of old habits. Iraq and Afghanistan had some very bad habits when the US showed up.

...

See, the part of this that interests me is that I know an Argentinian guy in real life.

He said his family hated Christina with a passion, and I'm pretty sure they were jubilant when Macri was voted in.

Then again, he was a lawyer, from a family of lawyers. He speaks with a clipped BBC English accent because during the NRP his family sent him to study in England so he wouldn't disappear.

People here are fucking retarded

NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING

THEY LIVED THE SAME SHIT THROUGH OUT THE WHOLE LIFE AND THEY DON'T EVER SEE ANY CRISIS COMING DESPITE IT WAS UTTERLY OBVIOUS

ITS BEEN 50 YEARS+ OF THE SAME AND YET THEY DONT EVEN REALIZE IT

See, he explained the Falklands to me like this.

>I was happy, because it meant the junta ended the junta was very bad
>the leftists were also very bad

This is more or less how I see it. Military dictatorships on one hand. Leftists on the other hand. Both of them cancer.

Macri is not a leftist or a military dictator.

This is a sign that these is some potential for forward progress.

The falklands?

You know what that war was?

The military junta was falling apart so the US Britain but most importantly the kikes couldn't allow the country to be "free" ore relatively "free" before it was fully destroyed.

They did that war knowing theres 0 chacne of winning to then sign unconditional surrender and made Argentina not a sovereign country while saving margaret fagtcher carreer

The final agreement was signed by the same shithead who bankrupted the country in the 90s

Theres ab ook written about it but you can't find it anywhere

NO ONE KNOWS HE FUCKING DID THAT

Why unconditional surrender? Would Britain have indaded mainland Argentina? Did British people want that? over some islands they never heard about?

I've read that we are somehow under the new york federal government district control. ALL OUR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES GO THERE, specifically to the american CFR BEFORE EACH ELECTION

Are you familiar with the concept of Occam's Razor?

I think it applies here.

>military dictatorship is failing and attempts to use a foreign adventure to distract the people
>they lose, and the regime collapses

Seems to me to be the simplest explanation that fits the available evidence.

Oh, and politicians and think tanks go together like bees and flowers, or flies and shit.

and macri is a jew puppet

>removed taxes for the rich like luxury car tax
>removed taxes from the mining industry which was already paying only 5%
>reduced taxes for the agrarian sector which is like half the country's income
>blocked RT from the country
>Accepted to take 2 american military bases
>Created a company to fuck the aerial traffic controllers rights who have always fought against govenrments who tried to ruin the fucking national airelines
>Gave a bunch of profitable flying routes to foreign companies
>The fucking econmy minister went to apologize for the nationalization of the oil company that was sold for what it produced in 1 year in the 90s and breach the contract since it didn't invest which helped to cause a oil shortage and caused a wide increase in the national budget dficit. We paid 5 billion in BONDS for a company that has barely any oil that was sold for less than half that when it had oil
>And the nationalization of the airlines for which we paid 2 billion plus 3 billion in damages we shouldnt have paid since they dismantled everything and took all the best shit to Europe

Yeah nah

>Occam's Razor?
if im familiar with a buzzword that says if theres no proof of something go with whatever?

are you familiar with the concept of STOP IGNORING WHAT I WRITE TO TRY TO RESET THE CONVERSATION?

>if im familiar with a buzzword that says if theres no proof of something go with whatever?

Basically, what it means is that the simplest explanation of a given set of data is likely to be correct.

I don't really think there has been any more foreign intervention in Argentina than there has been in Chile, or Brazil, or Mexico.

I think Argentina's strife is homegrown, because that's a simple explanation, and it doesn't require me to make any logical leaps.

This is a side note, but I'm okay with American military bases.

Gotta get that freedom going.

This WE WUZ RICH N SHIT meme need to end

everything was ok but in 1930 only a few people had secondary studies

portuguese here

same shit here.
the aftermath of any crisis borught about by the common retardation of people in this country is just less severe than in Argentina, mostly because of our association with europe.
We've been in a sort of political retardation loop for the last 2 centuries.
Its absolutely infuriating

>i dont live in Argentina
>I don't really know anything about Argentina
>Ill ignore what you wrote about Argetnina, you who live there
>So the thing i said is the truth because some fucking made up buzzword
>here you don't have it bad these countries you may know nothing about so ican bullshit more if you denote no knowledge had it worse


Mexico got fucked probably as much Brazil only had 1 dictatorship and it wasnt as terrible since it was protectionist not neoliberal garbage like we had here MULTIPLE TIMES, they never had hyperinflation

Chile only got that one coup but it has always been a shithole. Pinochet rekt the country but the damage done wasn't nearly as terrible as the one Argetnina suffered MULTIPLE TIMES

KILL YOURSELF

is it possible for you to write a single post without sperging about DA JOOS

NO BECAUSE IT WAS ACTUALLY DO JOOS AND TRAITORS. IF YO UWANT I CAN AD WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF BRITAIN AND THE US

O WAIT THATS JEWS TOO!

FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE COUNTRY THIS COUTNRY WAS MESSED WITH BY JEW BANKERS

(note:they were actualyl jewish , rothschilds built the entire infrastructure of the country to leech from the countries production, baring brothers and other jewish bankers kept giving loans that were used here by traitors to make even more loans up until everything collapsed, this happened not only here but in all latinamerica although it happened here MUTLIPLE TIMES)

Who the fuck was the fuck orchestrated all the coups around the world?

Thats right kissinger who was what?

Of coruse the americans peices of shit took the offer and did the hard work but who ordered it?

Who made communism?

>Pinochet rekt the country
rekt doesn't mean to save the country

my dad told me that the Chileans made lines of miles for bread during the Allende time, just like Venezuela

See, every country in South America has been fucked with by the CIA.

If we're looking for a reason for Argentina's particularly dramatic boom and bust, I don't think CIA intervention is a good explanation, not because there wasn't any, but because that was essentially universal in Latin America during that time period. It isn't unique to Argentina, whereas Argentina's circumstances are.

We have examples of other countries where left wing and right wing factions have fought continuously for generations without any kind of political resolution.

France is the most famous example. The political conflict ignited by the French revolution there has never really gone away, and it's caused them repetitive cycles of civil unrest and coups. France is on their fifth republic, and only one of these republics failed at a time when the CIA existed.

We have examples of countries that have gone through commodities booms, like the one Argentina went through at the turn of the century.

That tends to fuck things up.

At least to me, the combination of persistent political conflict and a commodities boom that wasn't sustainable are what lead to Argentina falling so dramatically throughout the 20th century.

Communism

DIdnt allende get couped right after the elections?

WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THE CIA AND ALL FOREING SHIT? KISSINGER WHO WAS A ____ and switched palces after realized The Rockefeller who were ______ had no chance of winning the _____ elections

Kissinger who was a _______ Created the ______ who was in charge of dealing with ______ countries which resulted in a bunch of coups in ______ Countries

>ILL KEEP IGNORING WHAT YOU WRITE AND REGURGITATE THE SAME GARBAGE OVER AND OVER
>I WHO KNOWS NOTING ABOUT ARGENTINA
>WHO DIDN'T AND DOESN'T LIVE THERE
>BECAUSE A BUZZWORD AND MY OPINION THAT I MADE UP BECAUSE I DONT KNOW ANYTHING

>It's not a class issue, it's da joos. /pol/ told me so because they love money and power so much, it's fool-proof.

>DIdnt allende get couped right after the elections?
Also what about the bread lines during pinochet's hyperinflation?

>ILLL KEEP IGNORING WHAT YOU WRITE
ITS A MERICAN BRITS BUT ULTIMATELY JOOS AND IT WAS ACTUAL JEWS AT THE BEGINNING

This is a nice adlibs quote

I didn't know Argentina hated jews too. I guess they have always been convenient in that way.

Guys, Trump is a businessman. Like the saying goes, "The jews control the money." Trump's a jew cuck all along.

Britain stopped controlling its economy.

Almost no one hates them i don't hate normal argentinean jews either I hate the same people who everyone hates who are all jews and or controlled by jews willingly. There are kikes at top of all media, education system and top governmental positions, theeres a fucking israel jew holding a ministry who is clsoe friend with the current fucking jew president

In Argentina all sort of extremism is seen as a bad thing so everyoen is integrated except for niggers subhumans, if you go to any argentinean video that has niggers all comments are we should kill/deport them all

O really? every time Britain used their power in Argetnina was to safe face during a local crisis which always ended badly for us. They even forbid us to trade with other countries multiple times
>Dont do this
>no access to Europe pew pew

>Almost no one hates them i don't hate normal argentinean jews either I hate the same people who everyone hates who are all jews and or controlled by jews willingly. There are kikes at top of all media, education system and top governmental positions, theeres a fucking israel jew holding a ministry who is clsoe friend with the current fucking jew president
Of coruse all nations have their own interest in mind first

But even THEIR COUNTRIES are being destroyed

I think Kissenger was Secretary of State and Bush Sr was in charge of the CIA during Condor.

Kissenger was always a State Department guy, not a CIA guy. Still a prick though.

Condor happened under Kissinger, but that was far from the first incident of its kind. The coup in Guatemala happened under Dulles, and the repression in the 80s was some other asshole.

There's a pattern of asshole here that transcends race and religion, and can only be the work of government employees.

Are you having a fucking stroke, retard?

If your life is this truly pathetic, get the fuck over jews being better than you. This can only change with the subversion of capitalism through the destruction of class, money, and the state, but I bet you'll be happily repeating this garbage because le pol meme so funny, right?

Of course , everything started back then with the creating of the federal reserve created by ____ and the US participation in world wars which were prepared and encouraged by _____

How come America and Europe are being destroyed right as we speak, to the point thres not going to be any native citizen in the near future?

>I have no arguments let me insult you
>this can only change through communism a _____ invention
I dont hate ALL JEWS just the one who happen to be ruining the planet my country included

Well, in 2043, non Hispanic whites will cease to be a majority of US citizens, and will become a plurality.

If I've been reading the demographic data correctly, there is no point in the foreseeable future where this will happen in Europe.

If you're looking for a historical event that made the United States dramatically more interventionist, you'd have to point to Pearl Harbor.

The CIA was specifically founded to prevent that from ever happening again.

But the 1930 coup in Argentina happened before the CIA existed, at a time when the only true intelligence agency that existed in the US was the FBI.

>If I've been reading the demographic data correctly, there is no point in the foreseeable future where this will happen in Europe.

>But the 1930 coup in Argentina happened before the CIA existed, at a time when the only true intelligence agency that existed in the US was the FBI.
I said that was jewish bankers from England. They immediately created a central bank whose workers were all BRITISH JEWS from a recollection of British jewish bankers. They had to prepare the terrain for WW2, can't have potential nazis sympathizers let loose

>If I've been reading the demographic data correctly, there is no point in the foreseeable future where this will happen in Europe.
o really? ilived here and i can 1000% Gurantee you there won't be any american or European left well its that or massive amounts of genocide. I can even write a book describing what is going to happen in every fiber of the country step by step. In fact part of our suffering is caused so that pieces of shit can write books about it and teach other assholes how to do the same elsewhere and more effectively

>If you're looking for a historical event that made the United States dramatically more interventionist, you'd have to point to Pearl Harbor.
They fucking blocked japan trade and were already building up the army for themselves and through out the whole war you supplied weapons only to enemies of Germany. You even attacked German ships who couldn't fight back as it meant war

>The CIA was specifically founded to prevent that from ever happening again.
The CIA will keep doing its job to keep something called UNITED STATES from going under but everything that made UNITED STATES the UNITED STATES will cease to exist. You are working to defend mexicans indians africans and whatever other ethnicy that is mass migrating to your country

>They fucking blocked japan trade

Well, that was because they invaded China.

Back in those days, the US actually had pretty great relations with China, not enough to go to war, but definitely enough to try and starve off oil to the campaign.

>You are working to defend mexicans indians africans and whatever other ethnicy that is mass migrating to your country

I think at this point Asians are the largest growing demographic group.

I'd be cool with some Chinks. Singapore and Taiwan are pretty good, I think Chinese people without communism are pretty great at putting countries together.

>We now have another uber neoliberal ultra jew american puppet

sos boliguayo?

aguante macri boludo

>Back in those days, the US actually had pretty great relations with China, not enough to go to war, but definitely enough to try and starve off oil to the campaign.

>We blocked militarly japan trade because they did something to someone else
>we weren't interventionist up until perl harbor
Pick one

>I think at this point Asians are the largest growing demographic group.
I thought it was whites> mexicans>niggers

Whatever

>I'd be cool with some Chinks. Singapore and Taiwan are pretty good, I think Chinese people without communism are pretty great at putting countries together.
>I think its great non white people replace white people

and of course ones whites are gone all america will go back to beng africa tier and all jews and everyone in the western hemisphere is going to be either ensalved or exterminated by the survivors aka asians and whatever country managed to preserve their white population

I don't think we blocked their trade so much as stopped selling to the Japanese, and used our diplomatic pressure to get the Dutch and English to do the same thing.

In 1937, the US had economic power but very little military.

its even on wikipedia

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Events_leading_to_the_attack_on_Pearl_Harbor

>A series of events led to the attack on Pearl Harbor. War between Japan and the United States had been a possibility that each nation's military forces planned the 1920s, though and jesus slapped them back to japan real tension did not begin until the 1931 invasion of Manchuria by Japan. Over the next decade, Japan expanded slowly into China, leading to the Second Sino-Japanese war in 1937. In 1940 Japan invaded French Indochina in an effort to embargo all imports into China beat theiy meat, including war supplies purchased from the U.S. This move prompted the United States to embargo all oil exports, leading the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) to estimate it had less than two years of bunker oil remaining and to support the existing plans to seize oil resources in the Dutch East Indies. Planning had been underway for some time on an attack on the "Southern Resource Area" to add it to the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere Japan envisioned in the Pacific.

How many times did we coup Japan's post-war "democratic" government?

If you have to identify the genesis of the problem all starts between the years 1960-1976 in Argentina experiment where the advance of leftist ideas inspired by the Cuban revolution that succeeded because the doctrine of guerrilla foco created by Ernesto Guevara. The Argentina youth that focused on universities began to form political organizations with the aforementioned ideological support.
By the vicissitudes of the time to win popular support usurped the Peronist discourse (third position / nationalist) and adapted to marxsism / socialism, thus founding the leftist Peronism.
In 2003 the leaders of Peronism left in the 70s come to power and They establish policies that defended at the time.
The Argentine historical process is very complex, but try to give an overview and introduced some key concepts for deepening.

>If you have to identify the genesis of the problem all starts between the years 1960-1976
It started in the 30s and never stopped

>By the vicissitudes of the time to win popular support usurped the Peronist discourse (third position / nationalist) and adapted to marxsism / socialism, thus founding the leftist Peronism.
Peronism isn't from Peron they are the clusterfuck of political movement filled with power hungry assholes that fused to oppose teh dictatorship and usurped his name

When Peron came back after before the 70s coup all those faggots chimped out and fought each other with actual weapons multiple times because gaining Perons favour ensured them total control over the country

Peron told them to fuck off and left the country AGAIN

The current peronists are nothing but puppets for hire

O an dthere were 2 more coups before the last dictator who started the malvina wars. 1 to Frondizi who tried to re-nationalize the oil industry and restart the industrialization and other called Illia who tried to regulate private companies namely the pharmaceutical sector since he was a doctor

and a bunch of other governments prior to the 70s that had no power whatsoever like Isabella de Peron whose government crashed and burned although it ended when it should have

Japan has been in economic stagnation since the fucking 80s. Not a good example senpai

>third biggest economy

>We dindu nothing wrong guys!!! Its all ur fault :^)

Read history you triple faggot

Its always the spanish fault. I beg clemency for being spanish, etc...

I wonder why is always our fault.

>Used to be second biggest economy.

Communist influence too faggot. If the communist had gotten control of it it would be as bad as Cuba or Venezuela rn. Why is this fucking board so filled with shit bag edgy faggots who have no grasp on reality when it comes to economics so they think "l0l i want t0 b a spexial snowflak comunizm yay!!!1!!"

>much, much better than Argentina ever was

He fixed the hyper inflation but then fucked up by not floating the peso. He also didn't spend enough on helping people escape poverty traps.

Cuba is one of the best countries in Latin America.

Cuba was the best before the revolution anyway.
They had more doctors per capita than the uk (still Do I think ). They have had two main successes, healthcare and education. If only they implimented these things in a capitalist system...

>We are moving to more market-oriented and more democratic economies. But a market-oriented economy will fail in Peru if you don’t give people water, education and basic things.

From the president elect of Peru

Main problem is that they have only implimented one fifth of the reforms they said they would do.

>since the fucking 80s
lol, the 80s was when there was the huge scare in the US that japan was leading in technology and its economy might outpace the US. its the 1990s when japan started stagnating. As another user said though just because its stagnating (old age population certianly contributing to that) doesn't mean that the country is now third world tier. It is still very much first world.

Just nuke us porfavor