Why do men hate women?

Why do men hate women?

From foot binding in Ancient China where the men found the women's pain and immobility arousing, to how women in modern Saudi Arabia aren't allowed to leave the house or even show their eyes, or genital mutilation in Africa because it's considered painful women should feel any pleasure. It's a constant throughout history, throughout continents. And religion isn't the answer - religion was authored by men. This goes beyond it.

Is it just in men's nature? Will it ever change?
Can a woman who's desiring self-fulfillment ever allow herself to be with a man? There is no way to beat it, is there?

This is something every girl growing up faces. Like black people, reading in the history books about slavery. But for women, the white slave owners are our fathers, brothers, teachers and politicians...
How can any father look his daughter in her eyes?

What should a woman do, for her own sake?

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Footbinding in China was started by women btw.

>what should a woman do
Fuck off back to tumblr

There's no agreement on what the origins of foot binding were so merely coming out with that like it is some kind of known fact is a bit silly.

Maybe reflect on why they did it.

Because societies the world over found women with small feet fucking cute? And women in China pondered with that fetish and went "we need to go smaller?"

>>>/tumblr/

>Why do men hate women?
By doing what? Giving them human rights, the right to vote and campaigning for them?

>women's pain and immobility arousing
No, it was the graceful dancing in those ridiculously tiny shoes, it's an upper class thing.

>women in modern Saudi Arabia aren't allowed to leave the house or even show their eyes
You have it backwards, they do leave the house and when they do they show only their eyes, if not the whole face, and hands.

>genital mutilation in Africa
Perpetrated by women, you think I didn't see that documentary with a 30-something woman preparing the child by cutting her hair before the clitoris?

There's a reason education against this FGM shit primarily targets women and girls.

All the versions of footbinding agree that it started with women, and the consensus is that the evidence points to Emperor Li Yu being in charge at the time.


>What should a woman do, for her own sake?
Stop hating and oppressing other women, especially those that happen to be more free-spirited than her.

The greatest obstacle to women's freedom is their colossal crab mentality:
>If I can't have it, neither should she!
and their self-imposed police state mentality, which is exploited by people who are smarter and/or more powerful than them, be them certain men, or other women.

Lack of education and civilization - why else?

A women is sacred if you think about it - she carries your seed and from her comes life, the miracle of this world.

She's also having a unique perspective on life, a feminine touch on everything.

Well, that's asians and arabs for you. The reason is cultural.
>How can any father look his daughter in her eyes?
I might surprise you but just because somebody in the past(distant or not) has hurt you or somebody you feel connection to, doesn't necessarily mean that the other person who shares general characteristics will do the same.

So think of it like - your male friend gets angry because his blonde gf dumped him. Shit happens, he has to live with it. Now, is it any kind of rational of him to NOT date any blondes in the future? Of course it's not. Same goes for your question.

Pretty much this.

Women are stupid and will ruin society if you let them
Look at any country led by females
Look at Canada where the women elected a fool because he was a qt

I don't hate women but they are usually dumb, even when educated

Same reason women starve themselves while men universally agree they like a women with more meat on the bones

Because women will do stupid shit to fit in and appease other women

So women can't think on their own and make their own decisions. Is this what you're suggesting? They're suffering from internal misogyny?

You obviously seem to know better than them.

Because jockeying for attention isn't just a male thing or a female thing? Maybe it involves complex interpersonal relationships where people set social standards with some sort of agency?

Or you could just act like the victim instead of being an ubermench and not giving a fuck about societal expectation. Nobody's going to beat you for wearing white after labor day. And if they do, your ass just stood up for your values. I hope to god that isn't just a man thing. But feminists act as if they're totally powerless without the institution of feminism to back them up.

It's startling how the same behavior will arbitrarily be painted as bad or good depending on a person's gender and how easily you're duped into tumblrisms.

most men seek validation of their existence as a response of their action, from what they conceive as the reality, validation which is the most intense through taking women, after women have accepted them to be satisfied by them, and nowadays making women explicitly wet. these men are devoted to women.

of course, most women snub most men, since women live for pleasures, being hedonistic-histrionics-egotistic but not narcissistic, which excludes, most of the time, what they consider poor or ugly men since those will never give as much pleasure to them as other men.
Only the woman is able to have pleasure for pleasure itself, and she knows this. sex is what always pleases her, among other things, and the male devotees attempt to give her orgasms. impotent men attempt to give her comfort.

higher men are narcissistic - they do not seek validation from somebody else, even less from a woman - without being egotistic, but the woman takes this narcissism as her egotism, which thus draws her to these men; for each woman knows that her best lovers are not the puny devoted men, but precisely are her fantasy of men like her, but not like her either!, which means just as egotistic as her, without being narcissistic.

the problem of the woman is that men cannot be ''egotistic without being narcissistic''. men cannot be histrionics-egotistic in fact.
the problem of women is that narcissistic men are not egotistic so that they take the woman for what she is, to wit, pure entertainment.

the problem of the woman is that most men are devotees and are not egotistic. those men do not seek validation from women in general; they seek validation from higher people, which they know women are above them since after all, they feel alive when they eat pussy. but those men know equally that a few men are even higher than women so that the lesser men pay respect and follow those higher men, if they meet them.

>From foot binding in Ancient China where the men found the women's pain and immobility arousing

No, they found the 'delicacy' of the small feet arousing because it showed you weren't a filthy peasant.

>o how women in modern Saudi Arabia aren't allowed to leave the house or even show their eyes

This is meant to avoid arousing men, because a woman is only meant to arouse her husband, arousing anyone else is just inviting rape.

> or genital mutilation in Africa because it's considered painful women should feel any pleasure

women feeling pleasure during sex makes them want tohave sex, which in turn might cause premarital sex or adultery.

>By doing what? Giving them human rights, the right to vote and campaigning for them?

While they fuck everything up, you forgot. Giving women the right to vote is the worst thing we did in the last 2 centuries.

Women in the West have had equality for decades, the case should be closed. Instead feminists now ask for special treatment, and perpetuate their butthurt into eternity by pretending every single personal problem they now face (because guess what, being an emancipated individual with responsibilities comes with problems) is linked to gender and should be solved by men for them. Modern feminists are just women who were clearly not ready for emancipation.

>Like black people, reading in the history books about slavery. But for women, the white slave owners are our fathers, brothers, teachers and politicians...
>How can any father look his daughter in her eyes?
nigger what

>Like black people, reading in the history books about slavery.
Not all black people were slaves, as a colonialist of Sweden I don't care about the feelings of descendants of black slaves who have it even better than the masters of their ancestors

-women want to feel
-men want to be real

for men wanting to be real, to connect with the real, they can to it with respect:
-to nature (and then tell other men that they tamed nature)
-to other men
-to humans who are not men: women

the problem is that most men are impotent towards nature (it is really foolish to even think we can dominate it for more than a moment), towards other men, since men understands that other men are just as impotent as they are. It remains that men can prove that they exist with respect to women.

the good news is that women want to feel, to live their emotions. as they say.Men end up seeking the validation of their existence form the few women who choose to notice them. of course, sooner or later around their puberty, women discover that the best activity which entertain them is when they sleep with men who can entertain them in bed and outside of bed. this is why women are sexual and men are not.

>What should a woman do, for her own sake?
>Can a woman who's desiring self-fulfillment ever allow herself to be with a man? There is no way to beat it, is there?
>How can any father look his daughter in her eyes?
Women like you are the reason why females have spent most of recorded human history in positions secondary to men. You're whiny, melodramatic, and worst of all you sound and act so helpless. Don't blame men, blame yourself.
>mfw women like op think they're strong

>mfw Europe ruining itself coincides with when women were bequeathed the right to vote

What's going on lads :o?

misoginy is a extreme manifestation of a basic defence mechanism necesary for males to emotionaly function without being reduced to subs in relation to females
women being objects of desire and mothers being so important in early development gives women great power over men, this is a question of basic internal factors, for example a woman literaly has the power to disrupt and even guide a mans mental functioning or even basic phisiological funcrtions just by how she dresses or behaves or relates to others etc..., in fact women are quite good at such games which is also biologicaly calibrated for max effect, and men have no integral defense against this, except to develop cultural forms that bind and regulate this power - in fact one of the basic male tendencies is exactly to achieve dominance in this area, which is a function of testosterone and vassopresin, its all a constant fight trough the ages

another thing is demographics, and how that factors into how sustainable a culture is depending on technological and other developments, as well as the basic tendency of political and religious rule to impose systems of bio-power, regardless of sex or gender

the rest is just down to primitivism, superstition, and life being generaly fucked up for all of us together

also, women have and always have had a big part in this, which makes sense, since most humans identify with gender roles and social positions and strive to maintain them, and some basic female tendencies in turn are precisely to submit and cooperate with whatever dominant paradigm and maintain allready existing forms, which again is a function of estrogene and oxitocine

and yes i am aware im posting in a thinly veiled bait thread, that part about fathers and black people especialy reeks of all kinds of trolling

Because women are ugly, disgusting, slovenly, inherently immoral, lacking in spirit and evil, yet the thing a man desires most on earth.

As much as men and women agitate about each other, it's a wonder to me how they manage to procreate outside of rape.

women are weak. and weak should fear the strong.

Because as we have seen since they were given the vote, they are the destroyers of nations.

Merely a coincidence.

But user, everything is rape. haven't you finished your womyns studies course yet?

Women overwhelming vote left.

Because you like voting towards people that don't want you to vote?

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Trust no thot

>the right wants to abolish women's suffrage

you think modern conservatives want to take women's voting away?
ayy

So homosexuality is optimal? Did you just go full circle from far right woman hating to far left man fetishizing?

>whole fucking thread about how woman's suffrage was a mistake
>lol wut no, no one wants to take away woman's suffrage

Either that or you believe taking away women's suffrage on the virtue of "wimmin amirite" isn't right leaning. Which is stupid.

>sodomy is tied to any one political movement

Because some boys grow up never being told cooties weren't real.

That's people ITT. On Veeky Forums. Women are not voting for people on Veeky Forums.

Name a single right-wing party, hell, ANY party in the Western world that wants to remove women's suffrage.

Men are beautiful in body and spirit, but cannot be erotic. That is itself a malfunction, often a result of male raised without male friendships mistaking the spiritual bond between two brothers in spirit and arms with the erotic.

Abstinence or a clinical, utilitarian sex life, with strict separation of the genders as per spartan costum is optimal.

based

>taking the opinions of anonymous people on an anime imageboard as the general opinions of all people who advocate for some of the same things they advocate for
wanna know how I know you're a woman

How come ancient Greece is so similar to Veeky Forums?
>everyone's a faggot
>guys spend tons of time just discussing shit
>every board is like a polis, hating each-other but uniting against outsiders
>...

So lefts aren't known to support homosex and it's not contradictory for rights to do so? What politics are you follo-

/pol/itics. Right. Nevermind.

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>it's not contradictory for rights to do so?
no, it isn't
wanting to fuck another lad in his arse isn't something new
wanting to marry your brother in sodomy is though

Exactly like how men do stupid shit to fit in and appease other men.

Not exactly a gendered quality, there.

Post your face when you understand that men love to eat pussy

I'm a man but I'd like to know how you came to that conclusion.

For the record, I don't see much difference between a person on the far right's beliefs from /pol/'s.

le pépé the mayme frog hahaha

define 'far right' though, most people think mild conservatism is far right nowadays
/pol/ is pretty tame lately due to their support for Trump who is a popular candidate, if you mean people on the right all advocate for the extermination of jewry and deny the holocaust then nah cunt

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Trump isn't a popular candidate. He just managed to appeal to the vocal minority succesfully enough to cuck the other Repubs into submission, and will have the Republican's vote for him anyways because of pic related.

And mild conservatism isn't something that is incredibly obvious, as most mild political belief. People who go on about the struggle of the white man, the evil that is millenials, and god forbid
>unsolicited opinions about Israel
are gunna be pretty obvious.

>and their self-imposed police state mentality
its no coincidence that the minute women were given the vote, prohibition was passed.
Or why PC culture became a thing in the first place

>Trump isn't a popular candidate.
stopped reading there

>Trump isn't a popular candidate.

He's received more primary votes than any other Republican candidate in history.

American voter participation is meme-teir low so that doesn't probe much

even the fucking banter is alike

And yet if you ask most mild Republicans that have never considered building a border wall and other insane bullshit, they'll tell you it's because they dislike Hillary, not because they actually liked Trump from the beginning.

>Trump isn't a popular candidate
he has around a 50-50 chance of winning against Shillary in the polls.
What are you on about

Shit artist loved by pedophiles and contrarian morons.

it has been this low for decades now.

If voter participation is extremely low and he's still received more votes than anyone else ever, doesn't that make it more significant?

>it's worth noting that 41% of Americans still have a favorable opinion of Trump following these comments on Mexicans and the building of a border wall
>41% favorable
>not popular
says increasingly nervous man for the 8th time this year

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Hell, even Bernie supporters who aren't stupid enough to still think he has a chance (which admittedly is the majority of them) are beginning to beg people to put Trump in office.

He's only got about 4 or 5 of them to compete with since the baby boom.

It's cultural. The cultures you mentioned are particularly trash.

Mostly that he's galvanized a base well, not that he's pulling in new voters

Fuck me then.

Excuse me for getting nervous that a man with no political background is close to the White House by virtue of insuling everyone that isn't him and saying divisive bullshit to manipulate people. Mostly it's fear out of what he'll do when he gets in seeing he obviously doesn't believe anything he says and doesn't have to answer to anyone but himself.

It lies on the contradiction between the necessities of civilized society and the evolution of female sexuality.

Basically, females evolved to desire mating with aggressive and violent alpha males, as it was necessary when men lived in uncivilized barbarian tribes in the state of nature, according to the law of the jungle. Civilization was born as a reaction against this primitive state, it is based in inhibition and self-control, in the constant struggle against our primitive instincts and natural desires. This was made possible thanks to religion and cultural norms restricting female sexuality, which as Gobekli
Tepe shows, predates agricultural civilization.

>To provide 'beta' men an incentive to produce far more economic output than needed just to support themselves while simultaneously controlling the hypergamy of women that would deprive children of interaction with their biological fathers, all major religions constructed an institution to force constructive conduct out of both genders while penalizing the natural primate tendencies of each. This institution was known as 'marriage'. Societies that enforced monogamous marriage made sure all beta men had wives, thus unlocking productive output out of these men who in pre-modern times would have had no incentive to be productive. Women, in turn, received a provider, a protector, and higher social status than unmarried women, who often were trapped in poverty. When applied over an entire population of humans, this system was known as 'civilization'.

Imran Khan

When female sexuality is "liberated", they always choose to mate with men who are more akin to their biological necessities but whose behavior is corrosive to civilized society. Criminals, thugs, the worst scum are the biggest benefitiaries of female sexual liberation. Read the Satires of Juvenal, there he mentions a Senator's wife who eloped with a Gladiator. Look at Brazil, a country with debauched promiscuity as the norm, there drug lords openly admit that the greatest reason why they become criminals is because women love it. Look at Europe, where most women hate their hard-working and honest native European males and prefer to hang out with Albanian pimps, Paki child rapists and Moroccan gangsters instead.

Men in older times knew that. The myth of the "Witches Sabbath", where women consorted with demons is based on this knowledge that "liberated" women will reward the worst men with their sex, therefore incentiving the practice of bad behavior among men. That's why female sexuality must be restricted.

>Mostly it's fear out of what he'll do when he gets in seeing he obviously doesn't believe anything he says and doesn't have to answer to anyone but himself.
are you even an American or what? you think the US president doesn't have to answer to anyone?
I mean your ignorance would be fine if this wasn't a fucking history board holy shit

When a president has no political party to answer to, it's hard to discern their motives.

Just because he got the Repubs to like him doesn't mean he gives a shit about them.

>biological necessities
only betas believe in this and ''scientific realism''

Fight me

>foot binding
>cute
pick one

what even is congress
you think Trump is gonna nuke Mecca the second he gets into office?

>Just because he got the Repubs to like him doesn't mean he gives a shit about them.
nearly all news outlets shit on trump constantly

youtube.com/watch?v=HyyLIkH9Nlg

So Sweden is utopia?

>I'm going to callously ignore any and all semblances of cultural relativism

>By doing what? Giving them human rights

These were things that were taken.
If I rob you of your property and give it back years later, and then act like I did you a favor, you'd be fully within your right to think I was fucking asshole.

Seriously, where do you get off thinking Men did Women a favor by stopping oppression that should have never happened in the first place?

That's because you've never spoken to a woman in your life maybe.

The dumb, sometimes pitiful misogyny on /b/ has never particularly shocked or surprised me. I'm 27 and I've browsed this site since 2007 (university years). It's only recently, the past year or so, that I've really noticed the same sort of attitude infect all of the boards.

I imagine it's something to do with my own age and experience. I saw a poll which showed that most posters on Veeky Forums are 21 or under. Now I won't say that I didn't have fairly juvenile feelings and thoughts towards women when i was younger and I think my inexperience and the echo chamber effect of Veeky Forums had an effect that. However, when I get older and developed friendships/professional relationships with women and even had long relationships with women my attitudes started to change.

Unless you remain a commited neet your opinion will change too. You will grow up and realise that women are basically the same as us. Yes of course there are biological differences, but they are minor, easily eclipsed by the mutual desire to connect with others and by similar social pressures and desires. We all want to be loved, appreciated, succeed in work, travel, learn and have a variety of friends. I'll say it again. Women are the same as us. I'd say there's a bigger difference between mysogonists and normal functioning people (of both genders) than there is generally between men and women.

Now I'll say that what I said is mostly based off my own, subjective, experience. But as someone older than the vast majority of posters on Veeky Forums; as someone who, unlike the vast majority of posters, has a job and has finished university, I'd say that my opinion should be considered at least.

Now before you rush to call me self-hating nu-male cuck ask yourself the following questions as the answers might be affecting your judgement.
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The female race is a particularly insidious one, always aiming to bring down their own civilization from within once the men who are part of it grant them too many liberties and hold them into too high regard. This is why they invite barbarous foreign elements into our homes.

All women must hang.

No, that guy is just beta.

KSA is literally one of the best countries of all time.

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please don't

Why don't you move there then?

Sweden is a good example about what I said here Swedish men are notoriously hard-working and honest. They respect females like no other men in the world. And yet no country in the world has more man-hating feminists. White man-hating, that is, because these same radical feminists excuse Muslim rape.

That happens because biology drives politics, and biologically, females can't help but feel disgust towards weak and complacent men. On the other hand, the aggressive and dominant behavior of Muslim alpha males is inherently attractive to females.

It's better to be raped by a Somali than loved by a Swede. A rape is a violation of a female body, but it still fulfils her biological drive of mating with aggressive and violent alpha males. But when a female has loving relationship with a weak man, that is not only a violation of her body, is a violation of her soul, of her entire biological purpose, and that hurts much more.

>No, they found the 'delicacy' of the small feet arousing because it showed you weren't a filthy peasant.

Trust me, they also found it mighty convenient that their women couldn't run from them.
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>I'm going to imply that systematically disfiguring people and rendering them immobile is simply a matter of aesthetic taste, like lipstick, earrings, or necklaces.

>r9k intensifies

So? This thread isn't "are women more stupid than men" it's "why did women do x things, I bet it's the patriarchy!"

In many cultures women are treated more poorly than men, but to blame men for every mistreatment is silly.

Did you also know that a vast majority of witchcraft denunciations on women in Europe were made by other women?

This is woman-hating that doesn't contradict itself. And the fact that it ends in "All women must hang" should be a red flag.

>How old am I?
>How many female friends do I have?
>How sexually experienced am I?
>How many of those encounters led to actual relationships?
>How many real relationships with women have I been in?
>Do I work in a primarily male environment?

Now no answers are bad here. Nothing wrong with just working with men. But appreciate that your perspective and therefore biases might be affected.

Fucking degenerate.

So did the men who were born into the generation that achieved suffrage, literally take suffrage away as soon as they were old or able enough?

How exactly did they take it?

>Trust me, they also found it mighty convenient that their women couldn't run from them.

Aristocratic china wasn't fucking Crog's mud huts, the specific act of literally RUNNING AWAY from your husband or family wasn't as relevant as you seem to pretend.

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Because it's not my country nor my people, I'm not a deracinated American that just think I can live anywhere all willy-nilly and that nothing except myself matters.

Do you just ENJOY taking the bait, /his?