**ATTENTION CRYPTO-COINERS**

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

**ATTENTION CRYPTO-COINERS**
THIS IS THE OFFICIAL CRYPTO-CURRENCY THREAD.

Veeky Forums is for all things business and finance, some of us coiners consistently create much too many unnecessary threads which seem to often dominate the board.
To respect all users of Veeky Forums, I kindly ask all crypto-coiners to direct their discussion about
Bitcoin, Ether, Lisk, DAO, TRUMP, RISE, WAVES Sia etc. to this thread and and keep it in this thread in order to prevent the crypto community from becoming more hated than it already is.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Resources for newbs who are interested, but don't know where to start.

***FOR THE COMPLETE LIST OF RESOURCES VISIT: pastebin.com/YbTmys4D
***FOR THE COMPLETE LIST OF RESOURCES VISIT: pastebin.com/YbTmys4D

If you would have a link/guide to be added to OP please post them ITT or email them to [email protected]

Bitcoin
bitcoin.org/en/
reddit.com/r/Bitcoin
reddit.com/r/BTC
youtube.com/watch?v=s4g1XFU8Gto
youtube.com/watch?v=1cexawnOlR8

Ethereum
ethereum.org/
reddit.com/r/ethereum
reddit.com/r/ethtrader
youtube.com/watch?v=TDGq4aeevgY

Bitcoin Wallets
blockchain.info/wallet/#/
coinbase.com/
electrum.org/#home

Buy Bitcoin
coinbase.com/
circle.com/en
localbitcoins.com/
kraken.com/

Exchanges
poloniex.com/exchange
kraken.com/
bitfinex.com/
gdax.com/
c-cex.com/?p=btc-usd
yobit.net/en/

Mining
bitcoinmining.com/
coindesk.com/information/how-bitcoin-mining-works/
Cloud Mining
genesis-mining.com/ (BTC, ETH, +more)
hashocean.com/
sea-mining.com/

Other
coindesk.com/
bitcointalk.org
reddit.com/r/cryptocurrency

Other urls found in this thread:

mobile.twitter.com/start_coin/status/738782614065025024
mobile.twitter.com/start_coin/status/738790556894146561
yobit.net/?bonus=MspEZ
topmine.io/?reg=157793
veekyforums.com/thread/1283335/business
youtube.com/watch?v=0A0KzoFuOLQ
whaleclub.co/join/CiCCMS
itunes.apple.com/us/app/bitcoin-aliens/id999017332?mt=8
itunes.apple.com/us/app/bitcoin-free/id999004027?mt=8
yobit.net/en/trade/LTC/BTC/?bonus=MspEZ
rise.vision/ico?aff=57431cadb705100c00718eda
yobit.net/en/trade/TRUMP/BTC/?bonus=MspEZ
yobit.net/en/trade/TRUMP/BTC/
rise.vision/ico?aff=5749da194843970b0057bc89
badbitcoin.org/thebadlist/
trustpilot.com/review/cex.io
genesis-mining.com/
pastebin.com/YbTmys4D
rise.vision/ico
bitminister.com/news.html
youtube.com/watch?v=iMM-X0mDonI
youtube.com/watch?v=-iZqS5lc-Qg
hashocean.com/?rid=470464
hashocean.com/pricing/?rid=560510
ibtimes.co.uk/genesis-mining-launches-enigma-worlds-largest-ether-cloud-mining-farm-1559652
bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-mining-files-with-sec-for-bitcoin-mining-fund-1457446638
cryptocurrencyminingreport.com/genesis-mining-profitability-day-60-2-months/
veekyforums.com/thread/1297415/business
youtu.be/V-vTOo7f4f8
alunacrypto.blogspot.com
veekyforums.com/thread/1295732/business
econotimes.com/Breakout-Coin-debuts-in-66-million-token-public-coinsale-on-Bittrex-on-June-13-220272
hashocean.com/?rid=548571
vessenes.com/more-ethereum-attacks-race-to-empty-is-the-real-deal/
trumpcoins.org/
ico.wavesplatform.com/
bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
youtube.com/watch?v=PoSbnAFvqfA

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

wow delet this

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

First of all PLEASE let that be a real email address.

Secondly, You cannot cage the TRUMP we will shill when and where we please!

5mileys
5mileys

My email is realer than your sister's fake tits.
Also respect my pents nignog, keep it to this thread, you'll have so many more people likely to buy into your trump shilling if you market it to cryptonerds ITT.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

4th for trump

Flameblow
Flameblow

I'm looking into investing into mining ETH, but I need to find out how profitable it would be based on my hardware, and if ETH will be switching to proof of stake and when.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

dude this is a trump coin thread now, take your ethcuck shillings elsewhere

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

TRUMP has stayed at 32-41K sat for the last 3 weeks bro. What happened to the friday video m8?

cum2soon
cum2soon

4100
I would look again if I were you, I think this ship is setting sail.

Sitting at 4431 sits

Booteefool
Booteefool

Fucking trump coin, buy DAO instead.

cum2soon
cum2soon

ahahahah

dao is the worst idea ever conceived

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Everyone buy Nautilus and help me out of this coin! SHIT IM ALL IN FOR 3 DAYS I CANT GET OUUT HALP!

Illusionz
Illusionz

Wired fucked dao yesterday. i dont know if it recovered yet. they basicly said its a mess. Buy nautilus and make Greece great again kek!

Inmate
Inmate

well fuck me sideways it's 6K sat on c-cex, good thing I got like 10,000 at 3.4K sat.

Techpill
Techpill

Great use of quints. I personally would take these shitcoins a little more seriously if they were confined to one thread like this. PND did something similar and had a Doge/PND general a year or so ago. The funny thing is that after they did this, nobody bothered them and nocoiners didnt shit all over them. Shilling is a lot like drinking wine. Its fun and celebratory when tastefully done but despised and mocked when sloppy and excessive.

FastChef
FastChef

This. Not to mention how redundant bitcucks on Veeky Forums are. I filtered out the words "cope" and "suicide watch" a long time ago. I almost filtered out the word bitcoin entirely because that fag is so annoying but I still like to hear whats going on with it from time to time so I didn't. I love the concept of bitcoin but I hate the edgy fedora wearing crowd that comes with it.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I think we are at about the point of picture related.

Not much time left.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

6.1k Sat, god damn nigga the prophecies were true!

JunkTop
JunkTop

Trump up 40%!!!!!

Nojokur
Nojokur

Sometimes more!

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

20th for TRUMP

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

It'll keep on climbing!! 10k sats soon!!

askme
askme

what's everyone's opinion on waves? it should hit trading in a few days i think

what do you niggas think it'll be worth per coin

personal opinion: it'll either be dumped to oblivion to like a penny per coin or go like ETH to $10/coin but imo the 1st is more likely

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

mobile.twitter.com/start_coin/status/738782614065025024

mobile.twitter.com/start_coin/status/738790556894146561

Lol

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

i'm hoping it goes to $10.
but you can never know what'll happen.
look at lisk. all the hype, and look where it' at now.

tfw referral gave me so many ico coins i'm gonna get off with profit anyway.

also, waves gives extra coins for connecting your twitter and facebook with the waves account.

i heard about rise twitter give away as well, but haven't really seen any proof or how to go about it..

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

the thing about WAVES is that it is user friendly, that's the whole deal about it. It's designed to be used by the average programmer, which is what apple did for the consumer market with the GUI back in the 90s.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

lousy poorfag here.
Anyone wanna spare me some Trumpcoins?

TDh3ksuEKuCN6NG9DAtHcQfkZz8dkEFN3w

Firespawn
Firespawn

Thanks guys that's what I was going for. I want this community to have constrictive conversation because I've seen it happen before. But without structure many people just make a thread without thinking to check the catalog and every topic and coiner is fragmented to hell. I hope to make this a regular general with an active Veeky Forums community just like the robinhood and stock threads.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

So since there seems to be all of this speculation on the halvening, BTC price could go either to the moon or to shit, what do you think will happen?

Following on this, is it wise to invest in cryptos right now since a BTC crash would be devistating to all altcoins?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Everyone would convert to ETH, I mean coinbase's newly branded exchange is going to be promoting ETH while downplaying Bitcoin, they're just ahead of the game. They own 10% of the world's bitcoins. So moral of the story invest in ETH.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Can we just spam Donald's twitter with the trumpcoin info website until he retweets/endorses it?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

as long as you do it smartly.
do you have a strategy?
High energy @TrumpCoin will Make Crypto Great Again! Supporting @realDonaldTrump for POTUS-2016

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Crypto play list:

blog.objectiveforex.com/p/cryptocurrencies.html

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

REMINDER TO DO YOUR PART

Kennedy took us to the moon.

Trump will take us to the stars.

King_Martha
King_Martha

This is pure genius.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Join me brother, the fire rises!

massdebater
massdebater

Brilliant! I'll do the same.

Playboyize
Playboyize

10/10

MPmaster
MPmaster

BUY Your trump here!

yobit.net/?bonus=MspEZ

It's not too late to buy in, We'll be reaching 10ksats soon and then the MOON!!

MPmaster
MPmaster

TRUMP will be $0.10 by July 4th and over $0.20 by Republican Convention Day, July 21st.

It's 3 cents now, get in before the public.

Screencap this.

askme
askme

tfw already have 950 coins
tfw will buy 50 more tomorrow.
match me, reddit! ;-)

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

try 8,000

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

just under 11K here mate, and I already sold off most when we hit 8K sat to recoup much more than my initial investment.

Soft_member
Soft_member

tfw will buy 50 more tomorrow.
that is less than $2 mate. get at least 10 bucks into it at a time, $20 is ideally a minimum. the bigger you buy orders, the more the price rises. you see 5Trump buy & sells that are bots that don't move the price. big number buys move the market, especially when volume is low as it currently is.
$20 today is $100 next month.

Bidwell
Bidwell

some high energy treasure chest holders here, folks!
MAGA!

TQNtDdxMoQbzGgShBfCAPUDkEdU61hfA7Z

i do this 50 or 100 coins a day every day, so that i don't even feel a thing and i constantly give it a slight bump without sending it overboard. it's like buying a pack of gum everyday and forgetting about it.
mostly because there are others buying as well.
yeah i know i'm taking it a bit too slow. but i'm not a millionaire anyways.
also, most my btc is tied up in other coins, so have to wait for them to go in the green before i sell them.
a lot too many variables in the equation.

likme
likme

and tomorrow, as in, it's like a ritual to me now, like brushing your teeth every morning.
don't worry though, someday, i'll be a big fish.

hairygrape
hairygrape

which one of you faggots is Greeny on yobit

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

One variable is if Trumps skyrocket you'll be bretty disappointed if it was all tied up in other coins that went nowhere.

Techpill
Techpill

what a fucking annoying faggot.

Methnerd
Methnerd

the yobit chatbox is low energy. it's difficult to read, too jumpy and for a while it was all "Buy Dubai!!!" but now it is "Buy CAB!!!"

Emberfire
Emberfire

r u for real right now

Firespawn
Firespawn

and hence 50/100 everyday.
i think i still got a few months to get every thing in order. it will only skyrocket in september, then dip late october till election day.
then when Trump comes out of it victorious [as he's made a habit of], it will go to the moon.
by then i'll have several thousand trumpcoins.

also, btc keeps on rising mate, i get slightly greedy, sorry.

not me, i'm phoenix.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Add topmine.io/?reg=157793 for cloud mining

RumChicken
RumChicken

i'm phoenix.
and i'm sorry, but sometimes my /pol/ shows up IRL.
thankfully mods didn't ban me on yobit after my little outburst with that boomyak faggot [i couldn't stop and named our chosen friends! sheesh].

DeathDog
DeathDog

Heh, that shit was entertaining as fuck though

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Is anyone else having problems with safecex? It seems every time I go on there the site is down.

eGremlin
eGremlin

I heard owners started not paying people. Most likely they fucked off with everyone's btc. Not so safe after all.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

topmine.io added to to pastebin and will be included in the next thread's OP. Thank you. Oh and Nice try with the referral.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

thanks, man.
i live to make my bros' days fun!

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I'd like to start mining ether, but I heard they were switching to proof of stake any one confirm? Also any hardware recommendations?

Soft_member
Soft_member

TRUMPCOIN VIDEO IS ABOUT TO GO LIVE SEE veekyforums.com/thread/1283335/business
veekyforums.com/thread/1283335/business
veekyforums.com/thread/1283335/business
veekyforums.com/thread/1283335/business

BUY TRUMPS NOW

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

TRUMP currently pumping!!!!

5mileys
5mileys

I can't believe there's literally a coin named LEAF!
fucking weedfags!

TechHater
TechHater

youtube.com/watch?v=0A0KzoFuOLQ

Trumpcoin video. go crazy you shilling bastards

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

oh shit

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

we will give money to trump^^
he sorely needs it the poor guy^^
we not going to steal it all promise^^

farquit
farquit

100.000.000 tokens á 10$ -> 1 billion$ market cap for waves
Which would be awesome since I got some too.
Trading will start with the 14th of July.
ICO prioce per token is about ~0.00033BTC

w8t4u
w8t4u

Start trading with x10 spending power

whaleclub.co/join/CiCCMS

I've made $20,000 in the past two weeks with it.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Buy ethereum

girlDog
girlDog

What do you mean trading will start July 14th?
Can't you buy it on Yobit right now?

likme
likme

the nuumbers need checking

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Plus all those sweet referral commissions you'll be getting.

Firespawn
Firespawn

i wish litecoin would stop fucking me up the ass and decide if it's going up or down already

fucking garbage can of a coin, if I don't wake up tommorow stopped out or in the green i'm never trading this shit again

Nojokur
Nojokur

You should be in BTC, SC, DGB, TRUMP. and ETH.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Uhhh why is Trump crashing?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

LTC moves with BTC.

Also LTC is releasing a roadmap soon so watch out for that.

5mileys
5mileys

Who isn't holding a stash of ETH these days?

Playboyize
Playboyize

Wrong. $FCT, $TRUMP, $VRC, $RBR, waves. These are the only ones i've found that I expect to outperform btc/eth.

Which will perform better between btc and eth I have no idea so i'm not gonna choose one of the two to recommend. Compared to fiat you'll be doing good with either.

By my TA the train just left the station. Litecoin won't rally against btc in the shortterm. There'll probably be a slight retracement back to 0.084 very soon at which point i'm selling. Or the more likely scenario I get stopped out at 0.082.

Idc what happens just make it happen fast. fucking chinese need to start pumping or dumping. Also the roadmaps etc is just bs, it wont be coming in the short term and it probably wont matter. Might indeed be a good entry possibility in ltc again in a couple of weeks, i'll stay out though.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Oh my god, Vericoin looks utterly amazing. loyyal too. I already knew a little about Factom, but looking into it more seems like huge potential for businesses. And Waves was also on my list but I forgot to list it.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

any apps for my iphone for earning stuff

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

itunes.apple.com/us/app/bitcoin-aliens/id999017332?mt=8
itunes.apple.com/us/app/bitcoin-free/id999004027?mt=8

Emberfire
Emberfire

itunes.apple.com/us/app/bitcoin-free/id999004027?mt=8

thanks man

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

those are IOUs.
and personally i'd wait for waves to be launched on bigger exchanges like poloniex, bittrex.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Here's something better and more trust worthy looking than Hashocean: Ahash

Pic related is link with affiliate, each affiliate your affiliate recruits also earns you bonuses

It also pays out more than Hashocean

happy_sad
happy_sad

Haven't been looking at new coins in a while, I noticed Siacoin took off when they mentioned they had a new beta started, supposedly they're going to "finish it soon". Should I jump in now before a possible even higher spike or should I wait for it to come down?

askme
askme

You should've bought 2 days ago.

They will release their full version and then they'll look for Chinese adoption to rival fct.

Take what you want from that.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Notrumpers on suicide watch itt

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Will write trump related poetry for trump coin
Already had one happy customer

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

How does the lending on Poloneix work? Someone explain pls

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Complete faggots thats who

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Trump at 7.5k with massive buy support to go even higher! You should have bought in when I made I thread whilst it was at 3k. Oh well it's not too late. Trump is going to be worth a dollar each soon

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

People who don't feel like holding an overpriced overhyped shillcoin?

TRUMP and BTC only holder here.

Methnerd
Methnerd

more trust worthy looking
kek
good luck with your quick and dirty scam #10000
these sites pop up every day and they last like 60 days tops ahash is already a month old.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Is there a single large no-bullshit bitcoin seller?

As in, I just want to use my paypal or CC to pay a price for a bitcoin and not shop around.

I also don't want to be forced to use that seller's wallet.

Booteefool
Booteefool

There is one but I can't remember the name, starts with P

It's a certified business by British government and the minimum deposit is 0.001.

But everywhere needs at least one pussy so I can't discourage you for your decision.

5mileys
5mileys

Paxful is the name

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

how do i buy trump?
newbie here

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

It's a certified business by British government
yeah no such thing
what kind of retard spreads bullshit like that?
the company might be registered in uk or not (on sketchy site implies so) that is not certified and no guarantee of anything

eGremlin
eGremlin

Okay, I want to fall for this Trumpcoin meme.

Just downloaded the wallet. Someone send me a coin please THfYda8fhzGDqJtR73x2MGUq5KQtiTJbYk

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Download a bitcoin wallet, Download the trump wallet.

Buy bitcoin from local bitcoin or elsewhere,
Then use your bitcoins to buy trump from here yobit.net/en/trade/LTC/BTC/?bonus=MspEZ BE quick though, before trump goes to the moon!

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

quick

Do I have 2 days?

Nojokur
Nojokur

LTC/BTC
bonus=MspEZ
good one, mate.
real kikey of you.

don't do what this says.

go to yobit.net and search for trump in market tab on the left side.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Hi, I am noob into buying btc
I tried cex.io and coincorner, but both request too much information, are they legit or are they identity theft schemes?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Looks like everyone is selling trump. 2 buy orders and 10000 sales. More like dumpcoin, amirite?

happy_sad
happy_sad

why in so much denial user?

only poor people don't make risks, especially when the minimum risk is 58 cents.

FastChef
FastChef

no problems with risks i have problems with moronic statements with no basis in reality.
also a limited is the exact form of corporation that you can't trust for shit when it comes to money. since the liability is greatly LIMITED in case it goes bankrupt.

saying shit like it looks more trustworthy than hashocean is my other problem if you look at the numbers hashocean is already unbelievably profitable. ahash is just ridiculously so.

i won't even send them 0.001, what's the min withdrawal btw?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

he is right about the british government certification though.it is a meaningless and seemingly false award that is just there to fool the foolable.

i saw previous ahash.x sites on a list of scam miners after i investigated it a couple of days ago, so i didn't put anything into it.

farquit
farquit

0.001

that's the min withdrawal

imagine what people thought of hashocean first year.

I have $7.58 in it out of the .5 btc I bought last month, that's a decent risk to take.

the profitability is 1400% per year, very far fetched, but there's no harm in making a small deposit and periodically withdrawing every 2 months or so.

as long as you have money in it it will mine for the amount you initially put in.

JunkTop
JunkTop

if anyone wants buy RISE ico -

here's the link.

rise.vision/ico?aff=57431cadb705100c00718eda

it's @740 satoshi ATM.

viagrandad
viagrandad

YOU CANNOT DUMP THE TRUMP!!!

yobit.net/en/trade/TRUMP/BTC/?bonus=MspEZ

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

spamming your referral link

Here's a link without it - yobit.net/en/trade/TRUMP/BTC/

hairygrape
hairygrape

Meetup today, you watched user?

rise.vision/ico?aff=5749da194843970b0057bc89

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

imagine what people thought of hashocean first year.
they thought it a fucking scam, and rightly so it is most likely a fucking scam.
the profitability is 1400% per year, very far fetched
no shit ask any professional investor about that!
as long
as they don't close shop and leave you out hanging that is

it's okay to me if you say hey this looks hyip and i tried it, but don't say bullshit like trustworthy! when it comes to these sites they come and go constantly most likely the same crime organization is behind them i don't even find unplausible that hashocean gets the bitcoins funneled from short lived scams to rip the market really off by building up the appearances of stability and longevity. short games and one big long scam there is some beauty in that if you think about it.

somebody will be a billionaire. not you tho.

Skullbone
Skullbone

nah, man, missed out.
i usually never find out about such things.

i even heard about a twitter giveaway of RISE, and still haven't found out more about it.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Am I not allowed to put my referral link, Maybe people want to give me a few satoshis for free. Seeing as I've been behind a few of the trump threads and Got many people to buy in at 3.2k. Charity isn't bad especially when it doesn't cost you a dime

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

sorry I triggered you, i said it looked trustworthy and you threw a fit at that.

look how dirt shit hashocean site is, at least ahash makes an effort to "fool" people in investing $7.

But I watch seinfeld and curb, I know how Judaism is like when it comes to money.

You edit your rise account and put in your twitter handle, every tweet contributes to rise when the ico drops. But I don't believe you'll get more than peanuts

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

some cucks find it offensive it's literal spam.

but damn it's effective i would never have thought i would get so many subs and bonus by spamming my link a bit here.

the entire psychological aspect of this crpyto hyip scene fascinates me to no end.

you tell people what they want to hear and there is no stopping them after.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

look how dirt shit hashocean site is
yeah minimal effort and they even piggyback the ssl cert of cloudflare.
damn site is a joke.

Inmate
Inmate

peanuts
won't say no to them either way.
thanks.

likme
likme

OP here, adding to pastebin now and will list in next thread's OP. Thanks for your contribution!

Evilember
Evilember

except for maybe genesis mining you can also add (scam suspect) to the "mining sites", just to be fair. they are almost identical to the doublers, most likely ponzi schemes.

badbitcoin.org/thebadlist/
maybe add this to your info

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Hi, let's see if I can help. It seems that cex.io is untrustworthy considering the reviews here: trustpilot.com/review/cex.io

so I would steer clear of them. I've never heard of coincorner but it's received good ratings and I'll add it to the pastebin and next thread's OP, thanks for the new link.

If you are using bank account or credit as your source of USD, you can buy BTC at coinbase and circle.com. Circle also accepts debit cards, coinbase does not.

Refer to the "Buy Bitcoin" section of the OP for more sites.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

badbitcoin.org/thebadlist/

it basically says that all of them are scams, it's a joke page to say that you shouldn't trust these kind of sites.

literally everything is there.

Genesis

added to the fact that they claim they'll mine everything, lol.

I think the min deposit is higher too

Nojokur
Nojokur

I have Cex.io, they're decent

a lot of bureaucracy is needed if you want something trustworthy, but you can also use Paxful

You can trade with Paypal, amazon gift card, gyft cards, etc.

Evilember
Evilember

badbitcoin.org/thebadlist/
genesis-mining.com/ (possible scam?)

added to pastebin.com/YbTmys4D and next thread's OP. Thanks for your contributions guys.

RumChicken
RumChicken

bureaucracy
more bureaucracy = more trustable?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Holy shit that is a lot of websites.

whereismyname
whereismyname

take my oversimplification and do business with paxful instead then.

Supergrass
Supergrass

well, if your dubs say so!

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

genesis was not on the list last time i checked
and i hear they got a semi sustainable payout rate.

doesn't mean they can't be a scam or that a lot of people don't think they are.

invest your bitcoins at your own risk nobody will hold you while you cry if it turns out to be a fucking scam.

Emberburn
Emberburn

They are missing monero bottoming again

hahahahaahahaha

Firespawn
Firespawn

is this a scam ? :^)
only need less than a one month to get your money back, it looks too good to be true

DeathDog
DeathDog

it looks too good to be true
yeah and people still playing it.
it's a disease really.

viagrandad
viagrandad

BUMP

What effect would the S&P 500 crash have on BTC?

takes2long
takes2long

Not much. It never does.

Inmate
Inmate

speaking of bumps, what's the bump limit on Veeky Forums?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

got my first roi yesterday and even withdrew

so yes, it's a scam.

MPmaster
MPmaster

IT'S NEVER CRASHED SINCE 2008

girlDog
girlDog

what are mini crashes

idontknow
idontknow

who here RISE

TechHater
TechHater

I friend.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

me too

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Where do I buy some

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

rise.vision/ico

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

hello, how'd you like the presser today, m8?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

bitminister.com/news.html

This shit too good to be true? If it is legit it's a fresh company. Though my B.S. meter is pinging.w

MPmaster
MPmaster

Well hello there, Harrison.

takes2long
takes2long

Get on polo. Buy RADS. They developed some kind of smartchain thing and will start an outreach project soon to different companies

Lunatick
Lunatick

Feel like adding some Trumpcoin videos to the next thread OP?

youtube.com/watch?v=0A0KzoFuOLQ
youtube.com/watch?v=iMM-X0mDonI

5mileys
5mileys

I can't believe I forgot to add those, yeah I'll add em.

massdebater
massdebater

it's on the scam list, sorry buddy

Inmate
Inmate

Cheers lad. Have some Ivanka.

King_Martha
King_Martha

public service announcement: buy the dip

RavySnake
RavySnake

here's a tip for you Veeky Forums.

Buy the vrc/btc dip that is currently happening

$vrc will be hitting 15k within a 10 days and that's only the start. I'm bullish up to at least 30k on this coin.

fwiw i bought at 6-7k, sold half at 11.5k and then bought more at 10.5k-9.1k. This is the coin im currently most bullish on by far on the 1 month time span

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

mfw profited off LSK (and still holding), invested in RISE, but missed the boat on WAVES

happy_sad
happy_sad

Rise is a scam. There's a reason why it got delisted off of icocountdown.

takes2long
takes2long

only time will tell, on the fence with it desu.

keynote yesterday

youtube.com/watch?v=-iZqS5lc-Qg

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Waves boat hasn't sailed just yet. You might be able to get on the first day of exchanges. So far it's not on any of them except scambit

Snarelure
Snarelure

anyone have success with genesis mining? might get a years worth of 2MHz for 74$

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

might be a scam use hashocean

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

waves should go live on exchanges on the 14th, next Tuesday. i too didn't get in on the ICO, i went full Trump and have made bank so far.

I'm going to have 0.5BTC ready for the waves launch to see if the price is good. i should have really bought the ICO and sold it at launch, it was foolish not to in hindsight. but i'll buy and hold what i can get when the price drops an hour or 2 into availability.

Inmate
Inmate

vericoin mooning.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

how can I tell the difference between a dip and a ded coin?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

might be a scam use hashocean
that's fucking gold m8

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

volume

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

who's got a promo for hashocean

massdebater
massdebater

what do you mean by promo?
if you mean ref link, you are welcome to use mine:
hashocean.com/?rid=470464

Inmate
Inmate

he's wants a promo code for a discount.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

yeah i would like one too ;)
altho if you buy with my ref and you post when you purchased and what amount (so i can check on my end) i will give you 1% back if you post your address too, this offer is only for today tho

SniperGod
SniperGod

Did anyone buy in Waves ICO? What was the cost per Wave?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

na too late sorry bro. just started up hashocean.

if i may ask how much have you guys invested and how much have you gotten in returns?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

running 621 KH/s currently, i invested like $16
my roi is in 3 days or so, but that is just where the fun begins once i secured my profit i will start reinvesting like a motherfucker.

SniperGod
SniperGod

no bites for 1% discount? damn alright i can go for 2% if it's above 1400 KH/s.

WebTool
WebTool

how did u only invest 16$?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

wow so u made back ur initial investment in 8 days im done.
i just put in 10$ should i just put in 100$? is this pretty safe?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

not really 8 days if you watch the dates:
my investment began in 04/14 and it still not a 100% roi but will be in a few days.

how safe it is i don't know, i think hashocean will run an other year but a couple of months at least. imo this period right before the halvening however is more risky than a few months before.

Skullbone
Skullbone

well some user just gave me a ref bonus, if you post an address i will send you the 1%, just write how much you bought and when along with it.

Supergrass
Supergrass

i have 1900KH/s, i make more than $8 a day. it says i should break-even after 68 days total. 4BTC profit in year 1.
you can see how much that cost at hashocean.com/pricing/?rid=560510

girlDog
girlDog

sneaky ;)
if you go with his link tho i can't give you any discount

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

ibtimes.co.uk/genesis-mining-launches-enigma-worlds-largest-ether-cloud-mining-farm-1559652 i feel like genesis is more legit than hashocean. just look at the difference between their videos

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-mining-files-with-sec-for-bitcoin-mining-fund-1457446638 they've even filed with the fucking SEC. im outta hashocean fuck that

RumChicken
RumChicken

noice, we shall see what comes of it, but if you sign up on genesis-mining online this does not apply to you in any way.

eGremlin
eGremlin

after reading this: cryptocurrencyminingreport.com/genesis-mining-profitability-day-60-2-months/

maybe i won't just get into genesis yet
lessee what happens around the halving

FastChef
FastChef

Its pretty much decided that cloud mining is a scam on r/bitcoin. First and last day on /crypto/ been real

Illusionz
Illusionz

Explain?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

my offer stands but i go to sleep now will check the thread in the morning for claims.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

steady volume that spikes and gets steady, albeit a tad lover is likely a dip. very sporadic volume that suddenly explodes and it's dumping a dead coin.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Doesn't r/bitcoin have some sort of agenda or something, and that's why r/BTC was created?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Bitcoin is going to up within the next 24 hours. Turn $100 into $500 with x5 leverage trading and go LONG.
whaleclub.co/join/CiCCMS

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Yep, cloud mining is a bit of a scam really. Better just buying some coins and holding/trading.

happy_sad
happy_sad

MAKE CRYPTO GREAT AGAIN!!

Bidwell
Bidwell

You trumpcoin fuckers are actually going to make this shit work aren't you. God damn it. I do want high profits though so MAKE CRYPTO GREAT AGAIN

Snarelure
Snarelure

Make crypto great again!

To the moon boys! STRAIGHT TO DA MOON!

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Brilliant, this had me in tears. Fucking fantastic.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

This is fake right? Did he actually support the coin? Can I get a source?

girlDog
girlDog

MAKE CRYPTO GREAT AGAIN!!

massdebater
massdebater

yeah pretty obvious fake

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

veekyforums.com/thread/1297415/business
veekyforums.com/thread/1297415/business
veekyforums.com/thread/1297415/business
veekyforums.com/thread/1297415/business

whereismyname
whereismyname

My wife typically earns and handles the finances in the household. I've been trying to sell her on the idea of investing some cash in cryptos She's skeptical, but agreed to keep an open mind if I can prove that I'ved turned $20 into a profit. As a newbie, I'm not sure where to start and what to do. Is there quick, free, easy, and accurate step-by-step online guide? Or what?

w8t4u
w8t4u

People have started from less than 1 cent and eventually made hundreds to thousands of dollars. With $20 you got an ok head start. But Jesus Christ did you not even read the OP filled with five million links?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Yeah, which of the five million?

idontknow
idontknow

Losing shit load of money is better than earning shitload of money :D convert your crypto into huge profits All you need is a very minute investment and you are good to go because hey, money makes money There are no annoying surveys to take, no MLMor affiliate marketing and no filtering through mind numbing spam emails! invest in my products & make cold hard cash hand over fist.

You guys can reach me here (Y)

GMAIL : [email protected]

Make sure you watch this

youtu.be/V-vTOo7f4f8

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

pastebin.com/YbTmys4D
alunacrypto.blogspot.com
reported this is illegal

Illusionz
Illusionz

This thread
veekyforums.com/thread/1295732/business

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

buy ethereum

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

bought trump coin at 2000 sat, sold at 12000. I regret nothing

Spamalot
Spamalot

I don't want cloud mining I want to buy the hardware and mine it myself.
how many did you buy at 2000

Lunatick
Lunatick

alunacrypto.blogspot.com
Cool Thanks!

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Trumpcoin volume a joke right now. Seems like it's gonna be worthless pretty soon.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

My wife typically earns and handles the finances in the household.
living the dream mang
do you cook at least and clean the house?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

WHEN THE FUCK IS WAVES COMING OUT

takes2long
takes2long

14th

idontknow
idontknow

noones dumping gonna dump on you sry. if you want to get in you have to pay the price or gamble by waiting for it to fall naturally. careful it doens't moon first though :)

RumChicken
RumChicken

Make crypto great again!

takes2long
takes2long

MAKE CRYPTO GREAT AGAIN

Bidwell
Bidwell

Question:
Say if I buy $5000 of a coin when its new/really low
and then I wait a while for it to stabilize at a new floor, could I put another 2k in and then instantly sell all my coins at the new higher price that my 2k bumped it up to?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Is it a bad idea to buy Waves on YoBit before the 14th?

RumChicken
RumChicken

No. Someone has to be the other end of the transaction. You're not going to just sell to the exchange itself.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

econotimes.com/Breakout-Coin-debuts-in-66-million-token-public-coinsale-on-Bittrex-on-June-13-220272

Does this look promising to y'all?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

What is waves going to open at on the 14th? $2? $5? $10?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Go for it, im investing in the etheroll ico.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I saw Donald Trump at a grocery store in Manhattan yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person,

but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for specifics on his policies about fiat or the federal reserve.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken back, and all I could say was “Gold Standar...” but he kept cutting me off and going “TrumpCoin! TrumpCoin! TrumpCoin!”

and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle with the secret services as I walked off.

When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen American Flag Zebra Cakes in his hands without paying

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.”
At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the cakes and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me.

I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each cake and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Is coinbase messed up for anyone else right now?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

syscoin releasing blockmarket beta (full-fledged online decentralized marketplace) by end of month and syscoin 2.1 update + blockmarket v2 in july. ridiculously cheap right now at ~1100 sats. not sure how high it'll go after these releases. maybe 10k sats.

Emberburn
Emberburn

let's make some money famolam

hashocean.com/?rid=548571

SniperGod
SniperGod

either even with ico or 2-3x ico. hopefully even as i'll be throwing an extra 5btc in then.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Its trading at 4xico on yobit already

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

vessenes.com/more-ethereum-attacks-race-to-empty-is-the-real-deal/

Fucking lol, goodbye ethereum

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

eth isn't going anywhere

cum2soon
cum2soon

Well that's true in multiple senses now, isn't it.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

woah..............

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I know nothing about cryptocurrencies but i wanna get involved.

I'm into spending some money to get mining hardware but not a whole lot.

I'm thinking buying myseld some AntMiner U3's

would they be ok for mining some litecoins?

p.s. i'm super tired and i aint gonna go through all the thread so sry for asking: are there any good tutorials - communities that can introduce you to litecoin mining?

eGremlin
eGremlin

go buy it there and maybe go skydiving w/o a parachute right after

FastChef
FastChef

thats what they said about lisk. that went up to 12X ico

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

litecoin mining

just buy some ethereum.

then buy some ICO's

I'm treating this as the beginning of a HUGE boom like the dotcom boom. I'm literally buying anything and everything that looks decent and then reinvest the profits as fast as possible in the next thing.

I think i will make multiple millions in 3 years by doing this. currently up to $30,000 from a $400 investment without even really trying. now I will get serious. I'm going to put 10btc in to the next promising ICO hopefully multiply it by 10 thats $60,000 / 100BTC then put that in to the next crowdsale $600,000 rinse and repeat.

massdebater
massdebater

Is there a good place to keep up with news on ICO's??

Inmate
Inmate

MAKE CRYPTO GREAT AGAIN

This

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

no

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

tfw I have 90% of my savings in Bitcoin

eGremlin
eGremlin

2 grand worth, I only wish I bet the house on it

JunkTop
JunkTop

tfw I have 90% of my life savings in trump coin

whereismyname
whereismyname

I almost had a heart attack when the first day yobit was selling the price mooned to .1 btc.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

bretty gud

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

BTC at $620
Alright. Time to start fucking around with other cryptos.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Nice repeating digits

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

is RISE legit? I've heard it was a scam.

Nojokur
Nojokur

everything is called a scam lol. Yes RISE is legit, just give it time.

SniperGod
SniperGod

ok coinshitters, riddle me this

1. what are some practical and real world applications of cryptos in the near term. so far we have drugs and chinks avoiding capital controls. what else is there, and why wouldn't I use fiat currency? for the sake of argument, lets assume i don't give a shit about being anonymous.

2. how do you know what to invest in when every week a new altcoin/some other bs is announced. ie, Lisk/Rise, BTC/LTC/ETC/etc

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Invest in all of them. There's a high chance of making money. The whole sector is growing.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

The whole sector is growing.

why? what does it offer apart from drugs and capital control avoidance?

i don't disagree that it's growing, but what are the fundamental reasons beyond the above two? what happens if china relaxes capital controls?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

There is a shit load of industries that are ripe for disruption. That draws in speculators the whole thing grows. A few of these cryptos will be YUGE in a year or two. It's about riding them to the moon

whereismyname
whereismyname

can you name any? this is the third time in one thread i've asked for specific real world applications beyond the two i've mentioned.

every time any of this shit is questioned it's always the same vague replies and talk of space travel.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

the entire financial system for example.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

what's wrong with the financial system that can be fixed with cryptos?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

SYScoin pump in a few hours. BTC rising as well. What a nice day.

hairygrape
hairygrape

The fact that its not decentralised

TreeEater
TreeEater

so what?

having a relationship with a bank is beneficial to most businesses. i'm a minor partner in a small hosting company, we recently got a sizable loan from our bank that allowed us to automate some of our systems and save $40k p/a in staffing. why do we care that it's centralized?

i've never heard a CEO say "gee, if only banking was decentralized".

how often is it an issue in your life?

FastChef
FastChef

every day.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

it's a constant burden on my life

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Yeah this is the one glaring flaw that I see with Bitcoin and other crypto currencies. There's just no reason for something like Bitcoin to exist at all. Outside of the "deep web," there's just no reason for an online merchant like Amazon to accept Bitcoin. I don't see its practical application. All I see is an experiment, an incredibly fascinating experiment, but an experiment nonetheless.

It may even be a profitable experiment for some, but at some point I do believe the bubble will burst again. When it becomes obvious that Bitcoin isn't going anywhere and it's not going to take the world by storm as some amazing new currency and it's only worth what we think it's worth, and everyone gets idiot shivers, it will be worth nothing. It will burst.

gee, if only banking was decentralized

kek

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

what is it like to live with a crippling lack of insight in to what really matters?

Nojokur
Nojokur

these are my thoughts exactly. i don't see any business drivers that will make it a long term success.

amazon may well accept bitcoins one day, but it will be through partnering with an exchange like most other places. it doesn't cost them much to implement, so why turn down neet bucks?

ride the bubble if that's your thing. many people have made money doing the same thing in the past, nothing wrong with that.

all you've added to the discussion if vague bullshit, piss off.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Take an economics course. Bit coin has drastically lower transaction costs then the traditional payment/settlement network.

Supergrass
Supergrass

I'm still unemployed but I made a $60 profit for one BTC in a fucking day, Jesus christ, should we buy before it hits $1000??!!?

Can we blame Localbitcoins for this?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

whats the cost to convert your fiat to bitcoin, and for the receiving party to convert it to fiat?

what happens when banks lower their fees?
what happens when the banks implement their own networks, between themselves?

it's like we live in an alternate universe where banks are powerless and can't possibly accommodate a changing market.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

the whole idea is you don't convert it to fiat you spend it as bitcoin

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

"Hey you guys think we should switch over to Bitcoin? Transaction costs are lower!"
"Can we take out a Bitcoin loan or line of credit to expand our business?"
"No."
"Can we recover our Bitcoins if hacked?"
"Probably not."
"Lower transaction costs you say?.....Yeah let's do it!"

A conversation that will never, ever happen.

Booteefool
Booteefool

what company is going to keep bitcoins? which individual will put their job on the line to save on transaction costs?

can you pay your suppliers in bitcoins?
can you pay your employees?

your options are to either convert it to fiat and eat the transaction fees, or buy a kilo of cocaine and sell that for fiat.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Right? Is this guy for real? There's no reason to switch over to Bitcoin or even accept Bitcoin. Centralization may not be anonymous, but I can do things with fiat that I simply cannot with Bitcoin. And there comes a certain amount of security in addition to that. Why would a business want to lose those things for lower transaction costs? Ridiculous

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

bitcoins cant be inflated, dollars can. See Zimbabwe, Wiemar Germany, or Venezuela for examples. The Dollar has lost 95% of its value since 1913.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Banking used to be decentralized in the US. They held their own reserves of gold and if they went bust it was only the single bank that went out of business instead of the entire economy a la 2008.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

what does inflation and 1913 have to do with anything? business doesn't let cash sit idle, it gets invested or spent. if anything, this is a benefit of fiat as circulation is better than having those with money sit on it.

what would happen to the price of BTC if China relaxed capital controls? it may not be inflation, but the effect on your investment would be the same. buy gold/hard assets if you want to hedge against inflation, not coins.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

1. what are some practical and real world applications of cryptos in the near term.

mfw not one has been named

whereismyname
whereismyname

You asked what's wrong with the current system that cryptos fixes. You cannot print more bitcoins but the fed can print more dollars.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Eth offers trustless contracts and crowdfunding, btc is decentralized and limited, waves is a platform for tokenizing fiat currency for transactions on the block chain

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

and inflation is not a benefit. It forces people to spend money they otherwise would not and deisentivizes saving, savings being key for investment

hairygrape
hairygrape

And the same is true for gold and oil. So we need Bitcoin becauseeeeee.... ?

I'm still not seeing any real world applications here.

Techpill
Techpill

Not to sound like an idiot but how exactly do you make money with bitcoins?

Buy products that accept bitcoins then sell them on amazon?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Thats because you lack insight in to these matters

Snarelure
Snarelure

Buy some, the price goes up, sell them

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Look, here's the thing. For something to have real, actual value, it must not only have a fixed quantity but it must have some practical, real world application or purpose as well. It must fulfil some need.

Gold is not just a shiny metal that someone picked out of the ground and decided was valuable one day. It has always had some real world application and it has more applications today than ever before, and that is why it's valuable.

Fixed, limited quantity + Purpose/Application = Value as a commodity or resource

Wood is valuable despite there being so much of it and despite its being a renewable resource because its applications are so many. It's valuable, but not very. (Just had wood delivered for the stove, relatively cheap too, so that's why I'm thinking of it.)

Gold and oil are not renewable and there's a fixed amount of each. They have numerous applications and that makes gold and oil more valuable than, say, wood.

My point is that even when something is plentiful it can still have value when its applications are so many. But it doesn't work in reverse. Just because something is so few in quantity does not make it valuable without it fulfilling some need.

That part of the equation is quite crucial, and Bitcoin falls into neither category. It's not plentiful but extraordinarily useful and it's not limited and useful either. It has no intrinsic value as a resource, commodity, or currency. There's no need for it. The guy who joked that he's never heard anyone say "if only banks were decentralized" struck at the heart of it, really. He's right.

Look, I hope everyone makes a lot of money from Bitcoin. I really do. I've got friends raving every day about how much money they're making, and I'm happy for them. (I'll be even happier for them when they cash out.) But it's just an experiment. That's all it is. It's a speculative "currency" with no real application and no intrinsic value as anything else at this point. That's not good.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Oh OK.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

woah! I don't even know where i can trade for such things :P
thnx though!

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

And, granted, Bitcoin is a "currency" and not a commodity or resource, but the principle is nearly the same. If Bitcoin is going to compete with the other currencies, then Bitcoin will need to do virtually everything that a fiat currency can do and more.

But it doesn't do more. It does less. And in its place it offers fixed quantity and some degree of anonymity and "decentralization" which, frankly, aren't enough to make it valuable in its own right.

Right now anyone holding Bitcoin can probably order drugs or gamble online. They can't buy groceries with it, pay their electric bill with it, invest it into anything else (without first converting it back into fiat). It's just a weird, quirky, autofellatiating currency for the sole purpose of investing....in itself. It's an experiment.

Ride the bubble, man. Make some money. Go for it. But if you seriously think that Bitcoin is a useful thing in its own right, well...

MPmaster
MPmaster

then don't be bothered by it.

girlDog
girlDog

trumpcoins.org/
trumpcoins.org/
trumpcoins.org/
trumpcoins.org/
trumpcoins.org/

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I'm not bothered by it. In my other post, I said as much.

I've got friends riding the bubble and doing quite well, and I'm happy for them. I make money my way, and they make money theirs, and as long as everyone's making money, it's a beautiful thing.

I stated my opinion regarding Bitcoin's future and was told to retake an economics class, and I thought I would expand upon my initial comments so as to better elaborate and remove any ambiguity.

I'm not Warren Buffet. I'm not a genius investor, and, furthermore, I'm not a psychic so for all I know, Bitcoin could have a tremendously bright future. But to say (or suggest) that Bitcoin is already intrinsically useful and valuable and to imply that I must be the uneducated one for not seeing it, yeah, I think that's worth refuting.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

What is the best bitcoin wallet to choose?

TreeEater
TreeEater

Your posts reek of "I've missed out on btc and I'm so butt hurt I've decided to write a novel with nothing but nonsense"

Skullbone
Skullbone

Pretty much

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

lol dewd.
Nobody said you 're uneducated. There is not an education issue. I don't even see cryptocurrency as a life investment but i think it's a nice hobby. Plus it could turn out to be really helpful if things turn horribly wrong where I live. Who knows?

p.s. i don't think i'm really ready for trading.. I'll go mining for a while ^^ (if i find time to understand how everything works and what kind of stuff I need)

iluvmen
iluvmen

Yeah that must be it

Playboyize
Playboyize

No I hear you, man. It's not that I "missed out" on Bitcoin or that I think it's an altogether stupid "investment." Intellectually speaking, it's about honesty.

What you just said was absolutely reasonable, honest, and logical. You don't know what will happen but you think it's worth exploring. That makes sense to me and I respect that.

But others here have been making some pretty extraordinarily claims that, frankly, cannot be substantiated.

It's one thing to say, "You know what? I don't know if there's a future in this thing but I think I can make a few bucks riding this bubble."

And it's entirely another to say "Bitcoin is a novel idea with a bright future and everyone's going to adopt it because there's so little of it and it's a fixed amount and it's decentralized and all of that means it will exponentially grow in value forever and ever"

And that's BASICALLY what some of the people here would have you believe. And that's just ridiculous

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Oh and thanks for refuting my claims by the way.

That's sarcasm...because you didn't.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Coinbase if you're new.

Supergrass
Supergrass

You're ridiculous. You're slso strawmanning pretty hard

Playboyize
Playboyize

wut i said time? not time. I meant to say mood

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

You are implying that something digital isn't real. Couldn't it be said that it's intrinsic value is that it is not physical? There's a lot more value in bitcoin than you say. The architecture allows you to make contracts, escrow, crowdfund, etc all for very little cost. In other words without lawyers.

That might not be something I would ever need in the US, but if I wanted to crowdfund a business in Ghana I could actually do it, and people have done it.

But fundamentally, something is not a resource until humans turn it into one. It used to be considered bad to strike oil hundreds of years ago because there was no human use for it, just a messy waste of time when trying to build something.

Fiat currency is relatively stable in the first world, so most people have no use for cryptocurrency. However that is not the case everywhere, which is why it is so popular in places like China and Venezuela. No one is here to force you to use bitcoin and it might even make sense for you to continue to use fiat if you are in the first world.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

If you cannot see any real world application in what I said then you're either a troll or a high functioning retard. If you don't see any value in the tech don't use it--no one will force you to.

massdebater
massdebater

I think CPU mining can be profitable if you run everything fast enough. I was going to make 10 dollars a month mining it, but I needed the compute power for other purposes, so I never bothered with it.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Don't bother with mining unless you get power for free. Just buy stuff with your own money and listen to

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

im pretty sure running a CPU 100% for a month will cost more than 10$ in power bills

hairygrape
hairygrape

So what is the Veeky Forums approved bitcoin wallet?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Buy it now
BUY IT NOW

Techpill
Techpill

Can't Ethereum make tokens just like WAVES, or is there something I am missing here?
Yeah, that's another reason why.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Yes they're different. read the whitepaper ico.wavesplatform.com/

Emberburn
Emberburn

cold wallet or paper wallet is best

for online, i use coinbase and blockchain.info

SniperWish
SniperWish

Alright will look int those. also any major coins that do proof of stake? I know TRUMP does it but i was wondering if there is any others i can invest in

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Damn, eth is super cheap. Might make a good buy-in for a quick scalp.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Naw.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Yeah, everything is getting fucked. I made a quick .5% on lisk and now I'm sitting it out till we see some stabilization and a gap up.

Anyone else trade this shit? It seems too good to be true, a lot easier TA then stocks.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

What Bitcoin wallet should I get?
bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

youtube.com/watch?v=PoSbnAFvqfA

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Toughts on DAO guys?

5mileys
5mileys

What is DAO

Bidwell
Bidwell

when do i sell

hairygrape
hairygrape

Should I buy btc now or wait till it drops a bit?

Snarelure
Snarelure

It's going up either way

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

don't invest in memecoins. It's all pump and dump schemes.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

If crypto is so great, then why are all the top investors not investing in it, and I'm talking about the top.

These are mostly old guys of course. Buffet, Soros, etc. Is the technology just too much for them or do they think its a meme? Should I just invest in rare metals or is crypto really the new thing that will produce the 21st century millionaires

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Someone make a new thread

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

why can't you name some?

what have we seen so far
muh inflation
there's already solutions for that. ps. inflation is caused by more than money being printed.
muh transaction fees
there are fees converting from/to btc/fiat, same shit different smell, plus you have the added risk of violatility.
muh decentralization
nobody has been able to explain why business cares

it's fucking hilarious. all you do is sit back and call people retards but you have no fucking clue how cryptos are useful beyond regurgitating a few buzzwords you read on bitcointalk.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Inflation is defined as the increase in the money supply. Printing money is to inflation as punching someone in the face is to assault. Learn to google, I know you're not slow enough that typing is a challenge.

Transferring large amounts of money will cost you significantly less with bitcoin. The idea is to use it instead of fiat so you don't have to convert, but I realize that would be hard to figure out for someone with a double digit iq.

Businesses care about decentralization for the same reason that you don't invest all your retirement fund into a single stock. If someone loses their bitcoin wallet or malinvests, only they will be effected. If the dollar goes to shit, or banks start throwing housing loans to the average negro who walks through the door, everyone in the economy suffers the consequences, not just businesses.

You should consider getting a vasectomy. It's not that difficult to understand.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Inflation is defined
where did i define deflation? i talked about causes, and secondly, as you requested, from google: a general increase in prices and fall in the purchasing value of money.

doesn't say shit about increase of money supply, which is just one single fucking cause of inflation.

The idea is to use it instead of fiat so you don't have to convert
fucking laughable, if i have no interest in buying drugs, what do i use it for? can i pay my rent with it? can i fill up my car? buy food and clothes? can businesses pay their employees and suppliers in bitcoins? even if i'm able to do any of those things my choices are severely limited. try living a non-neet lifestyle for a month on bitcoins and tell me how you go.

do you realise that none of the large companies that 'accept' bitcoins (dell/msoft, etc) actually take bitcoins? they partner with a btc exchange which takes takes the bitcoins, and pays out in USD/whatever. they'll take your neet coins, but they don't want to have anything to do with them. why do you think this is the case?

If the dollar goes to shit, or banks start throwing housing loans to the average negro

what happens if bitcoin goes to shit? what happens if china relaxes capital controls?
what happens if the network can't cope with the number of transactions or some other limitation/bug gets hit?

decentralisation has nothing to do with any of this. the idea the bitcoin is risk free compared to fiat is absurd. there are already hedges against inflation and currency devaluation. bitcoin isn't needed, it's value fluctuates far more than the major currencies.

ps. you've yet to name one practical real world use of bitcoin apart from drugs and avoiding capital controls..

RavySnake
RavySnake

I'm a noob, how do I send USD from Yobit to my bank?

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