What went wrong with African-Americans?

Back to /pol/, weenie.

All those points you listed besides maybe slavery was put in place against the Chinese. They aren't nearly as bad as blacks today. also its been proven even with the same upbringing as white people that blacks will still have a lower IQ.

this is a /pol/ thread, nerd

Cocaine and black panthers

But why didn't families of other races break up?

>nd something called parenting said, 'If you get caught with it you’re going to embarrass your mother.' Not 'You're going to get your butt kicked.' No. 'You're going to embarrass your family.'
If only he had similar reservations about raping women.

desu i'm not sure cosby is a good example of being a paragon of moral christian virtues

Remember that part where the Chinese culture and ethnic identity was literally created in this country (under shit-tier conditions) and they were 1/10 of the population?

They just had the headstart as minorities have been historical guinea pigs for social engineering. It is rising for all but Asians iirc.

Jews were enslaved and killed 70 years ago and they are successful

Because the Black family was always struggling to stay together and this happens way before Blacks were even allowed to receive welfare at a near equal level to whites (there was a long period where they could get a super restrictive and useless form of it).

Jews have a strong culture and identity dating back thousands of years.

Black Americans have had about 400 to create one from scratch. 350 of those years have been in utterly shit-tier conditions in which they were largely denied education, access to opportunity and treated like literal sub-humans.

Then there's the whole bit where we pretend that successful, middle class black people don't exist.

Chinese do have it bad. This "Model minority" thing is a pure myth. 15% of the Chinese American population are in poverty, and in NYC Asian Americans are more impoverished than Arican Americans. And worse still the "lazy blacks" thing is also a pure myth. They're not as impoverished, uneducated and generally hopeless as /pol/ thinks they are. The problem is there's a serious racism and poverty problem in the US. And it's half perpetuated by the perception of African Americans as poor, uneducated hoodlums despite that having no basis in reality.

>mah IQ
IQ is not a barrier to having an acceptable quality of life.

And what is the common denominator?

Are you implying there's no poverty in Israel? It's one of the most disproportionately impoverished countries in the developed world.

Not every Jew is an American-Ashkenazi CEO who's family have been living in the USA since the 19th century.

>Assassination of all well educated & religious hope figures like MLK.
>The government stomping out all political hope movements like black socialism or the black panthers.
>The pill and feminism destroying the family unit, with blacks being especially targeted. (The founder of PP said she wanted to start a program to eradicate blacks + half of all black babies get aborted).
>Both the school system and the job market being more and more unfair towards blacks due to racism.
>Gangs fill the void and offer crime jobs.
>Gang culture and hiphop form a unhealthy "black ghetto culture".

Nice try, Schlomo.

We all know that all of those dirt-munching peasants the Einsatzgruppen mowed down in Eastern Europe were actually the German intellectual revolutionaries of 1919 in disguise.

>(The founder of PP said she wanted to start a program to eradicate blacks + half of all black babies get aborted)

I don't believe you

I think she actually did desu, but remember this was at the height of the progressives' love affair with eugenics.

Margaret Sanger. She thought just as it was a man's duty to defend the nation and build it, it was a woman's duty to create the builders of the nation and empower them through education and Eugenics.

This was back when Feminism was more than "waaah why aren't I being given special treatment". Sanger and several bigwigs in the American Eugenics Society got together and went on to found Planned Parenthood.

Yes I'm sure the Palestinian live in terrible conditions under the Jews

>This was back when Feminism was more than "waaah why aren't I being given special treatment"
Feminism still is more than that.

They have a culture that glorifies criminality and fornication.

Hip hop is cultural poison.

People in occupied territories obviously aren't included statistically. Although Arabs make up one of the most impoverished demographics together with Haredi Jews.

IT still doesn't render PP as a bad thing and women having control over their reproductive health actually helps bring less unwanted kids to this world.

>I don't believe you

dianedew.com/sanger.htm
studentsforlife.org/planned-parenthood-and-racism/
liveaction.org/research/margaret-sanger-quotes-history-and-biography
cnsnews.com/commentary/dr-paul-kengor/was-margaret-sanger-racist
toomanyaborted.com/thenegroproject/
toomanyaborted.com/newyork/
ewtn.com/library/prolife/ppracism.txt
foxnews.com/story/2008/04/09/abortion-rate-among-black-women-far-exceeds-rate-for-other-groups.html
catholicnewsagency.com/news/ucla_student_sting_exposes_racism_at_planned_parenthood/

Yeah, no, PP TOTALLY is not a racist eugenics organisation that by now successfully kills of MORE black babies than are born each year ... -_-

>slavery
>segregation in the South
>redlining in the North
>drug epidemic and the government's war on drugs
>thug "gangsta" culture (a result of the drug-crime epidemics of the 80s and 90s)

Niggers have had it tough

In order

>increasing numbers of single moms

>drug epidemics and organized crime

>no more entry level jobs that pay a living wage

>mass incarceration

>PP intentionally killing off the majority of black pregnancies (successfully) slowly eradicating the afro american population.
>IT still doesn't render PP as a bad thing

Fuck off, genocide apologist.

>implying less hoodlums running around is a bad thing

I literally said that I think user was right, Christcuck.

>genocide against blacks and hispanics is bad

Blaming hip hop as the sole issue is batshit insane.

You don't see people sperg over rock music anymore?

Oh, Ic.
We have a /pol/ infection as well ...

>What went wrong
Abortion, drugs, erosion of the black family by the media.

>wants to stick the government into people's wombs
>accuses other people of being /pol/

What went wrong with Jamaicans? What went wrong with Haitians? What went wrong with Bahamians? What went wrong with Somalis? What went wrong with Nigerians? Why are people obsessed with AAs and what their doing?

No we have a summerfag infection.

It just so happens that the politics of bored teenage-boys and /pol/ have a Venn Diagram of a circle.

Hip hop has colluded with the prison industry in horizontal integration so it is not just me new rock and roll.

Hip hop is the megaphone through which modern counterculture is being spread. The counterculture itself is the problem, but hip hop has brought it into the limelight.

Hip Hop didn't appear out of nowhere. These things had to happen for rappers to rap about them. Hip Hop isn't the cause, it's the effect of these violent environments.

Hip-hop is a good thing.

Song relevant to this thread
youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU

Nigeria is doing pretty well.

It confounds and arrests don't linkspew backpacker shit that doesn't have the influence hipster imbue upon it.

The government is doing well, but the people are living like shit

Not what I meant, I actually 100% agree with you. I explained my meaning in this post:

>wanting children to be born in safe supportive homes with mothers that can actually provide for them
>"hur hur hur go away /pol/"

Go away retard, abortion is necessary to prevent more starving children that turn to crime. No one forces black mothers to get an abortion, they know more about their own financial/personal situation than you do.

redlining was (and still is over the entire nation but more breadth and not solely race) pretty prevalent.
The worst thing about Redlining was that it affected you really hard compared to just plain old discrimination because it hit your wealth, social mobiltiy and finances.

The fact that half the country is controlled by Boko Haram proves you wrong.

How is it /pol/ what I said. Avoiding raising kid you can't support helps the mother out and won't ruin her future you idiot child

Stefan Molyneux is a living manifestation of an autistic REE

I have no doubt he could dig up some number that looks like it "proves" his case but once you meet another fuckhead like Stefan you realize they're all the same deceptive, dishonest Rainmen and their opinions belong in the trash

nice one user.

>And it's half perpetuated by the perception of African Americans as poor, uneducated hoodlums despite that having no basis in reality.
Is this nigga serious? Have you ever been to the inner city?

>boko haram
>controls half of nigeria
kek what?

>i've seen some poor blacks
>that means they're all poor and lazy
Logic, what is it?

Yes. And guess what? There's also poor Asians, poor whites and poor Hispanics.

Guess what else? Go to a rich upper-middle class neighbourhood and you'll probably find at least a few non-whites.

Clear conclusion? Poverty isn't a racially exclusive problem.

>If your family only has one source of income you are more likely to be impoverished
good sleuthing

Half was an exaggeration, but the fact that a large terrorist group operates and attacks cities with armed forces means that Nigeria is not doing well. Countries that are doing well have citizens who don't have to worry about being killed for reading books.

they were probably the ones left behind when mankind started packing their shit and going after new places.
behind stood the sick, the elder, the weak and the overcautious; needless to say the evolutionary clash that ocurred a few thousands/million years after took the worst turn for those who didn't go through so much and didn't have to adapt so much shit, which were the black ones.

We didn't need a two wagecuck family if feminshits didn't insist on effectively doubling the workforce and suppressing wages with careerrism

Heroin and Crack Cocaine + Welfare State. There was already a developing black upper class in the 40s before things turned to shit.

Pretty sure that has a lot more to do with the bourgeoisie looking to get away with paying people suboptimal wages whilst getting two members of the workforce for the price of one rather than a feminist conspiracy.

Blacks couldn't even access welfare until very late and they were poor as fuck before that.

I'll take that as a fucking no. And those other impoverished are not committing a grossly disproportionate amount of violent crime. Your complete ignorance of reality makes me not want to even try to talk about any social issues pertaining to it, so I guess I'm out.

Fucking stupid people, I swear.

Feminism is the boogie socially conscious self promotion window dressing it comes as. It is their Trojan horse and useful fools gonna useful fools.

Disinvestment in intercity neighborhoods by several people and the governments at various levels helped inner cities decline a lot.

What if women wanted to work?

> And those other impoverished are not committing a grossly disproportionate amount of violent crime
Actually yes they are. Poor people in general commit disproportionate amounts of violent crime in every country and in every community.

>. Your complete ignorance of reality makes me not want to even try to talk about any social issues pertaining to it, so I guess I'm out.
"reality".
I love it when racists try and dress up their preconceived prejudices as "being realisitic".

Except in cities outside the South where there was some opportunity.

Why do they want to offer their child bearing years to corporations? Women as untaxable home.managers is more valued than being in an office and they know it. That's why there is a wage gap and why one has never been observed for unmarried spinsters.

You hit the needle on the head. I see it that way as well and I'm Mexican American or as the proper label for any one born in the U.S. OF FUCKING A Should be called AMERICAN!
That's are only label UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL!

Because they don't want children now??
Do you want a kid now?

>US DOJ and FBI crime statistics by race aren't reality
I'm in real estate near Milwaukee. I know the difference between upstanding black people and hood trash, and sadly there are a lot more of the latter than the former. I volunteer at an assisted living center in Milwaukee, I have been in the hood in houses, and have friends and family who all have their own stories and experiences. I've went to school in Chicago and spent plenty of time in the terrible neighborhoods of the south side. I've been robbed, witnessed violence, have had acquaintances assaulted. Whenever you hear a brazen act of barbarity, outlandish story of neglect, or violent disregard for human life in the news, it's assumed to be perpetuated by a black individual, because 99.9% of the time it is. If you want to discuss factors like lack of family structure, destructive community values, welfare state slavery, terrible and corrupt educational infrastructure, drug abuse explosion, or any other serious contributing issue instead of muh victim complex muh white man.

So fuck off, I live in reality, what fucking planet are you from?

Nice meme post

Sure that's why their suicide rates have been rising among the childless.
I want anti natalists to leave.

What do you suppose poor people do once welfare is abolished?

So you're saying it's not the AA's problem, but blacks in general?

Thanks senpai

Post the Stat for suicide amongst childless males and females?

That's a brilliant strawman there friend-o. If there's a broken welfare system in need of reform, and I criticize its effect as neo-slavery keeping people in their place where they would make more in benefits than getting a job, then I must want to abolish the whole thing.

Like I said, I'm wasting my time on truly ignorant people. Go look up the issues of my previous post as well as google the crime statistics. No point in having a Veeky Forums argument.

What reforms are you thinking of?

Also there are a fuckton of people with jobs on welfare still or needing social assistance. Hell in many places getting a job does nothing because you get little out of it and still are just as poor as being on welfare.

Jesus Christ, the amount of good goyim in this thread is insane. It's literally them, that's all there is to it. There's no "institutionalised racism" or anything like that, it all boils down to their mental inferiority to basically every other existing race, as shown by their (statistically) lower IQ, thus is the reason why Europe had thriving colonial empires while they were eating each other in mud huts. It's not fucking racism, it's documented scientific fact, and the fact that you bloated airheads are too cosmopolitan to acknowledge it proves you're the genuine "racists".

Go ahead, debate me.

> If you want to discuss factors like lack of family structure, destructive community values, welfare state slavery, terrible and corrupt educational infrastructure, drug abuse explosion, or any other serious contributing issue instead of muh victim complex muh white man.
The thing is those ultimately are manifestations of societal injustices. Are they the white man's fault? No, there's no such entity as the white man. However I sarcastically referenced "the white man" in the first post because these societal problems are always handwaved by racists as "blaming the white man". Any attempt to address institutional and societal problems is handwaved as such on Veeky Forums in favour of finding new ways to say it's their own fault and they should bootstrap their way to success like every other minority (whilst ignoring that monumental poverty is also faced by other minorities and by white people for that matter).

>So fuck off, I live in reality, what fucking planet are you from?
Reality is not a planet.

> It's not fucking racism, it's documented scientific fact,
That's what every racist says, /pol/

>What went wrong with African-Americans?
>No /pol/ tier memes

Don't make a /pol/ tier thread then you dipshit

Hey fuck you. I'm black and I'm smart, I made it. How would you like to be born black and someone spouting that bullshit that you're talking about?

To reform the system to incentivise work, for one, instead of doing the opposite. This is only one facet of the problem, poverty, which is one facet of the problem of current black culture.

If you want to read on it, I recommend reading the opinions of economist Thomas Sowell and also like The Heritage Institute.

people shittalk white people all the time pham

just let it go, water off a ducks back

maybe post some smug anime girls

Yeah it has nothing to do with poverty. Must be that new rap "music"

Your open-ended platitudes and pedantry are grating.