"Dude, lions are cool as shit!"

yes, lions are at the top of the food chain, likewise rulers view themselves as predating on their underlings

Behold, a lion.

>I know England got lions because the Western French provinces who conquered them (Normandy and Anjou) used hem to begin with

No they are leopards but brits still think they're lions

>using wildlife on your coat of arms not native to your country

Fucking disgusting. At least Greeks had lions.

There were lions in France during the Middle Ages though

Looks more like a fat doge t.b.h.

I'm not sure of that.
The only lions who lived in Europe were the asiatic lion in Greece and the eurasian ca lion who went extinct way before the middle ages.
The barbary lion never crossed the sea to Europe

Nope.

> thought process behind this
Totally not that. Actually there are pretty subtle and sophisticated language in play, that you just can't understand because of lack of heraldic knowledge. Rule of cool got nothing with that.

>Jesus is African
Sounds about right.

>lions are african.

WE LIVED ON THE SAVANNA AND SHIT

>he doesn't have a rabbit on his coat of arms

It's like you faggots don't want to go fast.

>No they are leopards but brits still think they're lions

In fact, they're neither leopards nor lions, they're "cats", which is a word from old norse and describe an undetermined felid.
But they are traditionnally called "lions" in english, and "leopards" in french.

For everyone who has lions or eagles on their coats of arms, yeah pretty much.

Only good coats of arms are the original and non-cringy ones like pic related.

>WE WUZ ASIAN CATS AND SHIT

>cringy coat of arms

This is the perfect opportunity for me to ask this.
Tell me, Veeky Forums, if the lion is not a British animal, why even make the lion their coat of arms? Also did they even know what a lion was when they created it?

Portugal has SEA DRAGONS in their coat of arms. It doesn't get better than this.

This is the seal of pope benedict

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no, its the spirit animal of the particular nation

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You answers are there As for why Western French adopted it in the first place, no idea

Eagles symbolise a lot besides just looking cool. The qualities associated with the Eagle are based on logical conclusions.

Lions are literally just this looks badass: the animal. The qualities associated with the lion are pretty much unrelated to lions and have merely been pushed onto lions by humans

I hate this fucking world, too many god damn fuckers in it.
Too many thoughts and different societies all wrapped up together in this fucking place called AMERICA.
Everyone has their own god damn opinion on every god damn thing,
and you may be saying 'Well what makes you so different?'.
Because I have something only me and V have; SELF AWARENESS.
Call it exortenstiolism or whatever the fuck you want.
We know what we are to this world, and what everyone else is.
We learn more than what caused the civil war and how to simplify quadratics in school.
We've been watching you people and we know what you think and how you act.
All talk and no action.
People who are said to be brave or courageous are usually just STUPID,
then they say later that they did it on purpose cause they're brave,
when they did it on fucking accident.
God everything is so corrupt and so filled with opinions and points of view,
and peoples own little agendas and schedules.
This isn't a world any more.
It's H.O.E and no one knows it.
Self awareness is a wonderful thing.

WE

>he took the red pill

sometime back in antiquity and in medieval times lions were not seen as symbol of nobility

When someone was compared to a lion it was an insult saying it one is like a bloodthirsty feral animal than a person, like it was used in Iliad.

Same how Lionheart was a nickname given for an act of excessive murderous brutality but as word's meaning and context have shifted over the centuries a new meme was born about a just, brave ruler

Yes, coats of arms are just gang-signs gone too far.

Read on Veeky Forums once that they may have been once the standards of late Roman army groups.

I think it makes sense desu

>A group of barbarians that joined the roman army use the roman standard
>Over time command of the group becomes hereditary
>They're still using this standard repainted a dozen times
>WRE collapses and your band of warriors become loyal to some other barbarian King
>Your family and this symbol are synonymous now
>Everyone else sees your cool as fuck standard and make their own

Probably bullshit but I think its an interesting thought

America choose the bald because freedom

pretty much the same reason the japs have birds flying in their anime OPs

Well Brits probably adopted it because they're cucks to anything French. I mean, just look at their language.

Lions, at least the ones I saw in East Africa, are also starving most of the time.

They stick to one territory and just starved, barely scraping by on warthogs until wildebeest and zebra came back for like a month, then went back to starving.

It's pretty fascinating. If anyone here lives in the Pacific Northwest, think bears and salmon.

There's actually a really good episode of a series called "Nature's Greatest Events" done by BBC that follows some of the lions I got the chance to see.

It is a cool thought, I agree - but like you I also suspect bullshit. People love trying to trace anything they can back to a Roman origin, and the whole descendants of the 'lost legion' narrative.

Pretty sure it was both.

god save us all if we can't find better than portugal

It's probably not that. Europeans had to introduce heraldry to the ERE. Pre-islamic persians did have heraldry, but it's unlikely at best that they transfered it to western europeans.

Unless sarmatians, culturally cousins of the persians, introduced it to the germanic invaders and those in turn introduced it to western europe. But I don't think the german invaders had heraldry either. It's probably just a natural thing when you get powerful clans of warriors to control everything. The japanese also developed heraldry.

The Draco standards of the late Roman Empire came from Sarmatia didn't they? I know they influenced heraldic representations of dragons in the Middle Ages.