Robots Taking Over

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Fast food chains, trucking companies, farms and factories across the country switch to robots and automation technology, cutting back 90% of their workforce in the process
20 Million Jobs lost
Public outrage ensues

What do?

How do we avoid this situation without passing up the benefits of automation?

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

ubi or mass extermination/ww3 are pretty much the only options

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

So a continuation of the last 600 years but with robots instead of machines.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Yes, kind of, but I think that with the current world population and the capabilities of automation, the impact will be much faster and more devastating.

In the past it has simply taken less people to do the same job because they make the work easier and implementation has been very slow and usually in only one or two fields at a time, now we have the ability to erase many jobs across a variety of fields.

I mean there are only so many jobs that are immune to automation, most of those either require a high level of education (Engineers, Doctors mechanics etc) or require creativity (Artists, musicians etc) which many people do not possess.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I was thinking of a taxation system that allowed a company owner to recoup the initial cost of installing the automation system and the maintenance costs but then as time progresses, taxation increases to pay welfare to the replaced workers.

Of course you would not want to make it uneconomical to use automation, but I think that some of the money they save should be used to benefit society, not just the company

5mileys
5mileys

Pulled this directly from your ass did you?

Threshing machines alone put more people out of work in an instant than anything you will be able to cite that isn't bad science fiction.

It took less people to do the job because they were replaced with machines, the work did not get easier and implementation was not slow nor was it confined to a single industry. It has been continual progress on all free market enterprises.

likme
likme

honestly op i hope that happens i am an industrial robot salesman, just the other day i was playing air hockey with an automotive robot arm (the future is great)
not to mention that automation takes away alot of plebian jobs but it creates more higher paying technical jobs as well as engineering jobs,
also if we wanted a solution i think governments should invest in engineering related education instead of useless arts degrees that way we have more engineers = better machines = higher average income = and more taxes circle of financial life

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

What do?

Genocide, preferably. It's either that or we end up with 7 billion NEETs on autismbux.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Invest in captcha technology

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

pay welfare to the replaced workers

Why? What is the point of keeping useless eaters alive?

They will only reduce the amount of resources available to be consumed by the remaining productive people, and the owners of the machines.

What's the point in keeping around all of these people who would add nothing to the stock of goods and services; who would only reduce that stock? Embrace evolution and let them die off.

whereismyname
whereismyname

I think you will find that there were riots and unrest after they invented these, and at least there were other jobs of a similar skill level for the laborers to do.

Not everyone wants to become an engineer, I'd like to think that the point of automation is to provide a culture of less work, more living.

Chaos, robot owners would be killed off by the multitudes of starving people.
Alternatively, the "Useless eaters" are a majority, enjoy your democracy as lawmakers divide the spoils of industry

Nojokur
Nojokur

Who will buy the goods produced by the robots, then?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

This is, in my opinion, the most probable sequence of events:
at some point, due to automation technology becoming both better and cheaper, most unskilled human labor becomes wholly uncompetitive
society demands people who've lost their job to just move on to some field that hasn't been automated, but the advancement of automation doesn't stop and those fields become less and less
eventually only a small number of fields are available, most of them requiring secondary education and above-average intelligence. Only a small number of unskilled fields are unable to be automatized
tens of millions of unemployed demand some sort of new system. Old white politicians don't realize that a society of only highly skilled workers and artists can't work and write off everyone who can't find a job as lazy bums who just want free stuff
GOOD END: eventually people realize requiring everyone to work to live doesn't work anymore and some form of basic income is implemented. As technology advances and more jobs are automated, basic income becomes more generous and civilization becomes a utopia where robots do all our work while we are free to do what we wish without worrying about basic needs
BAD END: laws are put in place to severely restrict the use of automation, just so no lazy bums can live off welfare. Advancement of civilization grinds to a halt.
REALLY BAD END: Fuckwads like are in power. Millions of people starve due to some archaic notion that only those who work deserve to live

Soft_member
Soft_member

Also, although I don't believe in the concept of "useless eaters", I'm sure there will be a lot less of them once the next generation does not have to worry about finances and can get a job in the field they enjoy and will excel in, not the one that they don't enjoy but pays the best

Inmate
Inmate

eugenics
The industrial revolution coincided with lower birth rates so we were able to handle the job losses. Get the moralfags out of the way and start sterilizing undesirables.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

We'll inevitably have to go back to 90% taxes like in the 50's

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Fast food chains, trucking companies, farms and factories across the country switch to robots and automation technology, cutting back 90% of their workforce in the process
Million Jobs lost
Public outrage ensues
What do?
How do we avoid this situation without passing up the benefits of automation?

Just don't implement it all at once and it'll be fine. If all those fields are completely automatic by 2075, nobody will care, because people will have had plenty of time to adjust, and since they weren't all laid off at once, there won't be a massive influx of unskilled workers in need of jobs.

Not really. Think of all the jobs that have become insignificant in the last 200 years, and think about how few people you need to do now what hundreds needed to do back in the day. is right.

Underrated post.

CRAWWWWLLLLIIIIING IN MY SKIIIIIINNN

Nailed it.

Also very likely.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Working in GM R&D's robot research
Researching ways to make robot researcher obsolete.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Marxism but through stock ownership of the factors of production?

Automation can free up society but only with a sustainable population. It can eventually provide for an entire population as long as that population is stable. How do we keep people from taking the stability as a free check to fuck and overpopulate into instability?

idontknow
idontknow

first world countries have low birthrates on average
third world countries have high birthrates on average
unless you see a reason for these trends to not continue then it should handle itself.

Methshot
Methshot

2075
pffftthahaha
the takeover has reached critical mass right now and it's gonna go faster. it's a mass job extinction event.
engadget.com/2016/06/03/walmart-wants-to-put-drones-to-work-in-its-warehouses/
you know it's over once fucking wal-"our workforce can apply for food stamps"-mart starts using it.

Soft_member
Soft_member

McDonalds is trying to replace its cashiers, and Wal-mart and Amazon it's warehouse workers. Those are the only big ones right now. I'm not saying McDonalds and Amazon should phase out their hourly workers by 2075, I'm saying all unskilled labor that can be automated should be gone by 2075. When it becomes harder to get an unskilled job, people will either A), go to community college to get a non-automated job, or B), stop working and live entirely on government assistance, which again, since we have 75 years to completely adjust, won't be extremely detrimental.

Methshot
Methshot

automated hunt and capture condoms.

Just try having sex in the missionary position for the sold purpose of recreation with a swarm of these roaming around.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

You forgot Eugenics.

Also, nice 9/11

MPmaster
MPmaster

Spotted the edgy middle schooler

This attitude is exactly why the economy is so fucked up right now, though. Consumer demand is collapsing because workers are having their pay cut and hours increased, which in turn hurts further hurts the bottom lines of their employers when they don't go out and buy things. To have an "economy," by definition you need to have people buying and selling things. It doesn't work anymore when you have one group that's managed to accumulate all the capital that used to be in circulation amongst everyone else.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Get job as -
Robot Salesman, distributor, designer, marketer, repairman, salvager, servicer, etc
Millions of robots means lots of problems the robots can't fix. At least not yet.

Then you sell the repair machines, etc

I work at a parcel depot.
Nobody is complaining that we have conveyor belts, forklift trucks, or barcode scanners, instead of having to shift everything and write down reference numbers all day.

girlDog
girlDog

I think you will find that there were riots and unrest after they invented these, and at least there were other jobs of a similar skill level for the laborers to do.

Those jobs came into being because there was a profit to be made in employing them to do those jobs since they were now cheap and available. There was not a chronically under staffed industry those people move into. The industries were created in response to the new availability of labor.

I'd like to think that the point of automation is to provide a culture of less work, more living.

What you like to think is irrelevant. The actual point is to increase profits. No business is implementing automation to provide a culture of less work and more living. They do it to make more money.

Lets say we all agree and people should be provided a good life without any effort on their part. Do you think this would be a net positive or negative for society?

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