>value to society
OK, let’s run with that.
#1 belongs in prison.
>child rapist and murderer
That's a pretty strong example.
The nigger is raping kids and killing them now?
We were discussing a weed dealer as an example,
Which I would argue could contribute to society if he was allowed to sell said product without having to get a fucking degree in pharmacology, and could operated legitimately in a free market and pay tax.
How about that?
For thousands of years of history, he would have been considered no worse than a pharmacist or herbalist with possibly some anger management issues. (I'm not violent, but have been in many fights, if you are getting beaten up and fight back, it's a fight) a self-employed trader or pedlar of medicinal herbs.
What 'education' do you think he is likely to get in prison? More info on scams, crime tips, criminal contacts, a bit of networking perhaps?
I smoke weed. Erryday.
So, to me, and approximately 300 million people on the planet, at least, a weed dealer is very fucking valuable, and only a criminal for political reasons.
A political prisoner.
What's the difference between a legal weed seller, in a state-approved store, in certain states / countries, and a street dealer?
'society prepares the crime, the criminal commits it'
I don't know why you jumped to 'child rapist / killer' then reverted back to 'petty career criminal'
As for stealing, I think the amount taken needs to be considered too. Would you feel ok about getting the maximum sentence for theft for stealing a pen from work?
I would say they are both equally likely to offend, since crime is rarely a one-time deal, and many are opportunistic. The petty criminal has more opportunities, but less opportunity or skill to embezzle and launder.
>not the point.
It's exactly the point, his upbringing and environment were a disadvantage.
If his kids had the same disadvantages,
They would be less likely to be successful.