>tfw you fell for the accounting/cpa meme >professors: "Oh you'll make great money! Tons of opportunities for CPAs after SOX! You don't have to work in accounting! You can do a bunch of stuff with a CPA! Corporate jobs require a CPA!"
What the professors didn't tell you:
>you work a shit load of hours >get paid just above someone stacking shelves at Wal-Mart >employers EXPECT you to work a shit ton of overtime because "well, you're an accountant, duh!", "Deadlines are deadlines." >do bullshit, mundane work day after day >have to deal with shitty clients if you work in public >have to deal with shitty managers and bosses >field is full of bitchy, career driven women trying to get you fired so they can get promoted >full of office politics >full of H1B chinks & Pajeets willing to work for half your wage or for free as interns so they can stay in USA
Fuck. I'm getting out of this field. Might start selling cars or get into programming. Any advice on what field I should pursue, Veeky Forums?
Nathaniel Sanchez
Went into the futures regulation. Not bad so far OP
- 37.5 hours a week - Can arrive at 8am and leave at 4pm - decent salary - audits not as detailed as public accounting
Benjamin Cruz
>futures regulation
How'd you get into that? I wonder if they have that in Texas. Do you work for the government?
Caleb Baker
I went to an interview two weeks ago. 40k range salary and I should know this week. The money is good for a single person in my low cost area.
However no one cared about my resume and accounting degree until I started passing CPA sections.
Pic very related
Lucas Baker
financial audit. Or any audit, really.
It's kinda like CPA work, except pajeets are less common, the hours aren't as oppressive (unless you want them to be or work for Big 4), training is 100% paid for, you have a close tie to your executive suite, and everyone licks your asshole because you wield the power, not the other way around.
source: I'm an internal auditor.
Robert Lopez
>the hours aren't as oppressive
Okay, how many hours though? I might want to do internal IT audit, but fuck I hate overtime.
Daniel Hall
Work for a regulator, which works on behalf of the government
I just applied and got in
Hudson Campbell
I feel you my man. Identical experience here but with law instead. I Quit 1 year in and haven't looked back since.
Life is beautiful now. Fuck being being a professional, I'm never going to be a desk jockey ever again.
Some things to add to the list: - Business formal is borderline torture - You are expected to bring in clients with no sales training or experience - The hours in your contract may vary. (the compensation won't) - You will only get to see sunlight during the weekends in the winter - Some days you'll go 10 hours with no food and 1-2 bathroom breaks because muh deadlines - EVERYONE in the business is absolutely miserable
Thankfully I have comfy unemployment benefits with let me NEET it up for 2 years. In your position I'd probably go into sales just because it's the most useful and versatile skill to have in business. So it's a useful way to make a living while figuring out what you want to do with your life.
Ryder Martin
>majoring in accounting
Nothing wrong here
>Going into accounting
wew
Jace Adams
>Get into programming
It's the exact same. Don't bother.
Lincoln Cox
>unemployment benefits with let me NEET it up for 2 years.
2 years? How the fuck? I thought it's 26 weeks and that's it.
Chase Wilson
I think I'll use my CPA plus some decent programming skills to land something financial analyst related. And/or use programming and my CPA to do shit on my own. I.e., SEO marketing, web design, valuation, contract accounting, etc. Shit sucks out there, and tons of dumb grads willing to work a shit schedule for "muh progression".
Benjamin Rogers
I'm surprised no one responded to this. I finished half the CPA exam.
Lincoln Price
(you)
Brandon Evans
W-what? Fuck. I'm an accounting dropout and thought about getting into programming. Don't you at least have better chances at working freelance with programming than with accounting?
What do I study now? Seriously though, no kneepads.
Tyler Cruz
Finished the CPA exam, don't even need it (yet). It does give the upperhand when looking for a new gig tho
Jacob Reyes
>What do I study now?
You err in thinking that studying will be your salvation.
Following a tracked professional path will just make you run into the same problems OP listed.
This is because universities are churning out too many candidates with identical skill sets. So everyone goes for the same entry-level jobs to get experience. And because everyone has roughly the same background fresh out of college, the only metrics you can compete on are personal skills and being a workhorse.
The way to avoid this is to NOT follow the trodden path and instead become proficient at something unique or rare.
Parker Sanchez
I understand perfectly what you're saying, but:
>The way to avoid this is to NOT follow the trodden path and instead become proficient at something unique or rare.
Is way, waaaaaaaay more easily said than done...
>Get college diploma in an in-demand field >Get boring, stable job
>Be an entrepreneur >Struggle for years for POTENTIAL success
Samuel Sullivan
Your conclusions are correct, but those 2 aren't the only options.
My point wasn't that you had to start your own business. Just don't do what lots of other people are doing. It's a bad idea. Take for instance CS - we've all heard the "we need more programmers" meme. But the truth is fresh grads outside of the major tech hubs are forced to take shitty webdev/helpdesk work because there are hardly any entry-level positions available.
Can you think of a single degree that doesn't have this problem? I can't, and that's why I would argue that there are no 'in-demand' fields and thus no easy path to a stable boring job.
Asher Price
Top kek at everyone who studies something for the money and then find out that no matter degree you have, it won't just fall into your lap. Congrats on cucking yourself.
Jason Fisher
>get accounting degree from Cal Poly Pomona >Have 1 year of experience under belt >find job right out of school, first found one for 70K, then two weeks later, I quit and was hired at one of the top 10 firms in SoCal making 84k. >3/4th done with my CPA >probably gonna be making 6 figures by the time I'm in my 30s, and start my own firm
You're the C U C K who got F U C K E D op.
Also, work a shit ton of hours (50-60 a week) ONLY during tax season, after that the rest of the year is lax.
Dominic Diaz
Yeah I understood what you meant from the start, I just chose a poor example.
My other concern is that if you become a very specific specialist, it might work well for a while then rapidly crash due to changes in the industry etc. while you have invested a lot of time, energy and probably money to become so specialized.
And, most importantly, while it's certainly not impossible to find a super specific niche, most of the time it's very difficult unless you are exceptionally brilliant or lucky.
Colton Bell
I'm studying my third section, FAR now. Shit is just weird.
Gavin Parker
graduated six months ago with an accounting degree, one year experience. can't find a job. not sure whether I should take the CPA or just give up on this field. probably too late for me now.
Jace Cox
>accounting major >no cpa >wants a job in corp Finance >only has 4 years audit firm experience
Lol into the trash it goes
Easton Wright
I passed all 4 parts before working. Never was able to get the job I wanted - corporpate accounting that would lead to CFO w 40 hr wks like the profs promised. Getting a public tax job was easy bc those jobs suck and everyone hates em. High turnover and they work u like dogs. Meanwhile uwhwt r u learning? How to fill out govt forms lol. Bullshit. And they want u to get good at it
Christopher Myers
>I am considering programming Programming + Accounting/Finance is good I think
I'm a ECE and Finance 2nd year and I started working at an accounting place, but,I ended up making financial calculators for very specific things that aren't available on the internet which required programming, math and finance knowledge skills.
The point is, any programming with any area that can be automated is very useful. I would recommend you get good at math, I mean at least the beginning stages of calculus + upper algerbra as well as comfortable with a few programming languages.
I would recommend learning python first
Brody Cox
Dunno user. I'm focusing on programmin, wed design, marketing, and more. If I have to do accounting I should at least try to get paid well doing contracts without recruiters taking a cut. U can make good money w contract work or if u do accounting on ur own - I.e., bookkeeping, small tax, etc. But I think having a tech background w acct is good. Was just told about a $40/hr job on contract if I knew Access & VBscripts. So might do that. Imagine getting some shit like that w/o a recruiter - that'd pay about $70 easy.
And I like finance and technology so that shits up my alley.
Brandon Cook
I guess the thing is, it gives u something to fall back on. That's what college is for I guess. If shit doesn't work out - u don't hit the lottery & have to work, I've got something.
If u do accounting, focus on building skills to start ur own business. I think the same is true for anything - programming too. It can just be contract consulting too, which isn't as bad. U get to be a neet now and then.
Dominic Rodriguez
Nobody in the firm I am working for knew what VB was so I ended up writing code in VB for someone.
Jackson Sanders
point being, it's clearly not that important if a whole firm doesnt know about VB, im confused as to why they need you too know it.
Jeremiah Mitchell
>tax
Enjoy working weekends during the most beautiful time of the year the rest of ur life, especially if u start ur own firm and r greedy.
>85k in Cali >barely comfy
Enjoy filling out govt forms & reading up on useless tax law updates every year. Shit is boring as fuck. Enjoy ur mandatory billables nigger. Oh and ur falls suck too for extensions.
Oh enjoy ungrateful clie ts that want shit done for free too.
Jayden Scott
Dont' know. It was for this specific contract assignment for some bullshit reason. Point is it's good to have a programming background with accounting is the shit I'm hearing.
Thanks. I just went through first lecture of Sedgwick on Algorithms. Apparently "Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs" is what these guys say. Guess that's why /g/ keep harping on that shit. So I'll probably add that to my self study curriculum in hopes of getting into something more interesting.
Finance is competitive. "Financial Analyst" is a highly in demand job title for both employers and employees (tons of applicants for each job ad). I heard sql, python, etc. are good to learn for these jobs.
It's rough out there. Fucking sucks. I don't know what to tell you exactly. The CPA would help - maybe, but do you want to do that shit? The 2017 exam looks like it will be a little harder.
I hear CISA & CICA combo might be good - it's a niche. This guy says internal control jobs are more cushy maybe true, who knows?
Nicholas Peterson
You're that kid that bags out everyone that went to uni and did real degrees and is now currently unemployed with a 2.5GPA with a major in social justice.
Brayden Gonzalez
>ID
Nigger, check it. I'm the OP, CPA.
Angel Walker
lol, touche.
>I heard sql, python etc are good to learn for finance stuff
I'm writing in python right now making a calculator, python, without a doubt is very useful
Michael Harris
I do python and SQL. I audit and have to manipulate large data for other auditors who don't know how.
Jayden Campbell
I also heard the SOX is like an accounting jobs act meme.
Jacob Butler
To be fair OP, professors don't tell you shit about a lot of careers. Accounting is what you make out of it. You can go into Audit and talk/work with complete retards called "clients". You can go into consulting or advisory which you can still be involved with retards. Then there's also Tax which is less time demanding, but you have to know your shit in the codes and books so you can tell the IRS to fuck off. Accounting most likely won't be a dream job, but if you have some interest in it you can make the best out of it. The people who are usually miserable are the ones who go into Big 4 from college or private and stay there beyond 4-6 years trying to make Manager/controller/etc., which is just pointless. Big 4 more times than not is just there to pick up interview points and experience just to go work for an F500/private/government work instead. Big 4 is where all the miserable belief comes from.
Grayson Lee
I assume you graduated, so, is there jobs like that once I graduate? I would like to continue doing programming, maths, modelling and research and not have to do much of the actual accounting side.
You may have read earlier that I am ECE+Finance if that helps you at all
Andrew Brooks
programming maths modelling and research in the financial/accounting world*
Jaxson Powell
Any career can take you places you never knew you would be. You just got to be prepared and step up when the opportunity arises. I basically got my job by being the guy who knows how to do stuff.
John Johnson
I was on the path to becoming an accountant but I switched to a communications/business type of program later on
Can anyone confirm what op is saying, it will make me feel a lot better about my program choice. I live in Toronto btw
Cameron Price
>tfw you fell for the accounting/cpa meme >field is full of bitchy, career driven women trying to get you fired so they can get promoted >full of office politics
i can relate to these hard i'm not even chartered yet but the reality is kicking in