/owg/ - Overwatch General

unbust your mouse or buy a new one
and next time, don't bust on your mouse

I don't mean closed beta progress
I mean the open beta that has yet to start
why doesn't that transfer
what's the point of 2 days headstart then

Because people are going fucking insane waiting to play the game.

Blizzard is really good at this, they learned a lot from Hearthstone.

>wahh why don't i get bigger numbers for preordering the game :(

I was largely unimpressed with the game and I've been in a couple of the beta periods.

>play of the game is almost always the cowboy
>get 30 kills during the game as everyone else has about 10.
>play of the game is still cowboy because he killed 3 people in one super
>all accolades go to the healer

I just want to play ranked when the game goes live, not have to grind to level 25 for the 3rd time
why do you have to be so hostile

25 takes a day. Plus you get to open up loot boxes again.

So don't play the beta? Or just quickplay/weekly brawl and have fun, saving the grind for launch day? Or is self control just not really something you're good at

Ok bud, I hope your bad day gets better
probably won't

this
you get to play early, that's a preorder bonus enough

lmao the fact that you think im hostile is just icing on the cake

This isn't deathmatch. Contribution to the team as a whole counts more than your K/D. That's not to say getting a lot of kills isn't useful but that shouldn't be your priority.

Immpressive or significant killstreaks count more towards the PotG than sheer amount.

>loot boxes
Why does anyone care about these? The whole gimmick is puddle deep and just window dressing for alternate skins. People keep trying to replicate the tf2 system but they never implement the economy that made it such a big deal.

Your memetext really just demonstrates how you crave to be commended for kills, which imo is pretty retarded. Got anymore memetext stories?

icing on what cake
you've gained nothing out of this
Perhaps you feel better for about 3 seconds and then your life goes back to being shit because you spend all your time being a dick to people online
There's a reason you're bitter and it's certainly not because you're happy.

play of the game needs to be reworked for sure, it's really basic right now and just tracks highest killstreak within a ten second timeframe....which is very often someone's ultimate

it needs to put more weight on impressive defenses or one-on-many engagements or scoring lots of kills quickly without an ultimate

they obviously track all that stuff in great detail, tons of stats going on in the background.

It'd be neat to see the POTG go to like a mei who keeps three players off the point for ten seconds as a clutch defense

>Why does anybody care about getting free shit
Boy that sure is a mystery.

You play a lot of assassins and carries in League huh?

Newsflash, kills are not the only measure of contribution.

> ~1 hour until closed beta is kill
so, fellow / i n / b o i z , what are you going to do for a week?

>my half baked opinion on "beta experience should carry over" got shot down
>attempt to attack the person directly with vague negative character insults
please, just stop, this is difficult to read

lmaoooo
im literally ded

>impressive
>significant
>press q
>receive triple kill
You're overthinking it.

I like opening things.

You talk about others being angry, but youre the most bitter person here.

>ask question
>lol r u stupid or something i disagree xD!
Yeah okay
enjoy your garbage thread

I'm using my last minutes to use symmetra to kill teammates

and after that im going to kms and then revive

Killstreaks while defending or attacking an objective count more towards PotG. That's what I meant by significant.

>free shit
You're unlocking stock shit. You're not actually getting anything, user. You can't trade them.

It needs to be reworked only because it's almost always mccree pressing q. If there were more variety, it'd be fine.

>implying I said any of that
Way to defend your inability to complete the only task available to you in a player vs player game. I'm constantly standing on points as everyone is flailing around running into sentry guns and blinking back and forth before dying.

Defending/attacking obj is rarely the outcome. The rocket woman gets that one usually.

Most of the time it's just mccree at some random point in the game killing 3 people that came around a corner nowhere near an objective and weren't even fighting him to begin with.

Now I have another question for you: Did you win the game?

we will, you can leave now

It is pretty hard to find a play significant to the outcome of the game that happens in less than 10 seconds that isnt an ultimate.

is that a zoids space whale?

Whatever helps you sleep at night friendo. Is McCree the father of your wife's son or something?

WHO ELSE WANTS SEXY ROBOT GIRLS?

thank god you won't be playing

That isn't mccree's ultimate, you mean.

Not even the giant dragon ultimate gets as much potg time as mccree's. And mccree's is always the exact same scenario.

My issue with potg is that it's rarely anything interesting. Maybe one in 20 is someone actually consciously doing something worth mild applause.

I just think it's an ill conceived feature.

>did you win?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I'm not talking about a single game.

>You can't trade them
Literally the mindset of a jew

>actually the same fag who complained about not being commended
That explains everything

Just a reminder to all of something that brought us all together, and a mantra that now means the world to so many.

We are Hope
We are Honor
We are Courage
We are Justice
We are Compassion
We are Determination
We are Harmony
We ARE Overwatch

You realize the giant dragon ultimate is easy as fuck to avoid and usually just serves as temporary area denial right?

You have a real hardon for Mccree though, did you go to PAX and have some Mccree cosplayer rape you in the bathroom or something?

>you won't be playing
I get free access to most multiplayer games, and always from major publishers.

You're taking this awfully personally. Need to justify a pre-order?

>I just think it's an ill conceived feature.
more like ill implemented, the idea of an automatic "this is the coolest moment in the game" is really interesting BUT it's current implementation feels like a placeholder, considering how much better they could make it with some work

It's just pixels. You didn't get anything.

I didn't say anything about how easy/hard an ability was to avoid. I said McCree's ultimate is almost always potg and it's always the same scenario. The fuck are you on about?

That is GTV, a stronger variant of Great Thing, a recurring boss in the Darius series. Bosses in these games are based on aquatic creatures.
youtu.be/UoKg87h4cpU?t=102
You should play them they're fun. Start with Darius Gaiden.

Well, my issue is only the results really matter in the end. As long as you won that should be satisfaction enough.

>WE ARE AUTISM

>My issue with potg is that it's rarely anything interesting
My issue with your criticism is that it isn't valid. Systems cannot analyze "interesting" and provide an output to such. Reply with actual criticisms of the system, and potentially even post those to the official forums.

>It's just pixels
Right, in the same way money doesn't really exist, but you apply value to it anyways.

Youre telling me that the dragon is getting as many kills as Mccree ults? If youre that low level then of course the PotGs are going to be bad.

Theyre still mediocre at higher levels but at least interesting stuff happens more often.

>Systems cannot analyze "interesting" and provide an output to such
actually yeah they can.
overwatch has a shitload of tracking going on in the background and with some tricky algorithm work, they can get a pretty diverse set of categories for what constitutes a "good play" and just replay that

they know who attacked who and when and from where
they know who was on point or near the point as all these engagements happened
they know who was accurate and inaccurate
they know the timers on the objectives
etc etc etc

and if you don't believe me, look at the stats on the MVP cards at the end of the game, those can get super esoteric. Each of those could be a metric for play of the game

I love Angela.

>winning is satisfaction enough
I don't really care about commendations. I feel the same about them as I do about potg.

Superfluous crap that doesn't add anything to the game.

>your criticism isn't valid because you're not providing the information I want
You're an idiot. And a self-important one at that. Most Potg's are McCree supers. Generally not doing anything other than popping it and scooping up otherwise easy kills. And it's always the same. If you don't want to accept that, then whatever, you're not interested in talking about it at all.

>unlocks animations are the same as currency
I can trade money for goods and services. Are you 11?

>I didn't say anything about how hard/easy it was to avoid

I don't understand people trying to make Mercy players feel bad. Bunch of prima donnas who think they're failure if they don't get potg and a card.

Yes.

you're implying that high noon and bukkake no kawaii are ultimates in the same league

>actually yeah they can
No, they cannot. They can monitor player positioning, on fire stats, kills, revives, assists, etc. But they cannot monitor "interesting".

What they do (as is currently) is using the above metrics, and outputting the scenario in which was most mathematically potent. And then tweak that algorithm to appeal to player tastes, whether they like watching things with more kills, more sniper kills, etc.

>Most Potg's are McCree supers
Source?

>unlocks animations are the same as currency
Not actually my point though lmao

>I can trade money for goods and services. Are you 11?
I should ask you the same since you inherently believe nothing has value unless you can trade it for 'goods and services'.

whoops, meant for

Nothing does have value unless someone is willing to sell/buy it. Sentimental value is not real value. Just saying.

Are the skins from the $60 editions able to be found in game?

If they're truly exclusive I'd consider dropping the cash.

Psychology. The same sort of person who thinks kills are the largest measure of impact or player ability, would also be on the maturity level of putting others down on an anonymous chinese cartoon pictograph website.

I play supports in most games I play like tf2 and league and dota and stuff, and one of overwatch's supports happens to be a super smart and super pretty swiss girl so of course I'm into the game.

I don't care about the gameplay and will probably not even play the game when it is released. I am only here for the waifus

I only get shit from here, people love me only playing Mercy/Lucio in game.

They are exclusive to the Origins Edition. It's the selling point. You can't get them from lootboxes.

>bukkake no kawai

I love you family.

POST BEST GIRLS. ALL GIRLS

ALSO AM I UNBANNED? I left in the midst of posting porn last time

You're in good company then. vg is notoriously shit at every game that's exclusively player versus player.

>Superfluous crap that doesn't add anything to the game.
Well it does add something, I'd be lying if I were to say that seeing yourself get the PotG wasn't satisfying, I've gotten a few myself in my brief time with the game. People enjoy seeing themselves in the spotlight and showing others that they've done well. I mostly only see in shades of winning or losing (a grave problem in itself) but it is nice having the enemy see you splatter them in a replay.

Sentimental value is real. Market value is real. Sentimental value has zero weight in market value. Just fixing that up for you.

So which one of those are Reaper, Widow and the aussies?

>What they do (as is currently) is using the above metrics, and outputting the scenario in which was most mathematically potent. And then tweak that algorithm to appeal to player tastes, whether they like watching things with more kills, more sniper kills, etc.

uh, no, they DO NOT do that currently, which is the problem.

what they do currently
>"who got the most kills within a ten second timefame?"
>"ok that's the potg"
that's it.

>sentimental value is real
Except it's not.

>they DO NOT do that currently
Source?

they're not overwatch though, they're [BAD GUY FACTION(S)]

They literally said thats what the POTG system does when they reworked it awhile back.

your source is every play of the game ever, but blizzard hasn't officially said what they do exactly.

Prove so. I can prove sentimental value exists because humans experience emotions and for example in the real estate market, agents often have to take into account sentimental value when negotiating with clients so they can set the listing price at a market-ready price.

When anyone (unconditionally) loves you, naturally you apply a value to this emotion but there is no physical manifestation of such.

So no source?

but I see a mercy get a res of the game like every 4 games so this can't be correct

>oh look another high noon triple kill
>all that mathematical brilliance and nuanced algorithm design
>it's like a symphony, or poetry
>that results in -another High Noon triple kill
>press q -> recieve potg
I'm beginning to think the people defending potg just haven't played the game much and haven't seen high noon triple kill 80 times yet.

as much source as your statement
except your statement doesn't reflect reality

You do realize greentext stories aren't in fact sources? I mean, I would love if they were, it would make writing reports easier.

Ok, so no source, but you stand by a sourceless claim for whatever reason. Odd.

Its funny because in order for Mercy to get a play of the game it almost always has to be a 4 person res, and holding ult on Mercy for that long is usually a mistake.

>mccree shoots real good
>therefore eliminations are the only metric for potg

>sentimental value exists because real estate
There is no value until a sale is made. So sentimental value is an imaginary feeling that has no relevance unless a market value is the outcome. Someone was trying to say things can have value without having a market value.

That's wrong. Sentimental value is just another word for stubbornness or inertia or under education. They impact market value but aren't relevant until someone is buying/selling.

Which you can't do with loot boxes, ever.

>Not bullying your healer

Seriously, though, it's just alpha / beta / cuck memes banter.

I personally despise the whole concept of "hold someone's else dick on a fucking FPS", though. It's like those forced stealth segments in JRPGs or some dumb shit like that. It simply doesn't fit the genre at all.

>holding ult on Mercy for that long
Teams can, and do, die within short time frames. I've seen it happen on numerous pushes. Team thinks it's a good push, gets fucked, Mercy revives, team either gets fucked again or actually wins (doesn't matter). Mercy gets potg.

what user should have said originally is

>sentimental value has no impact on monetary value

you boys are getting in too deep

>healers are like stealth segments in jrpgs
I get your point, but that's an odd comparison. Jrpgs are essentially just interactive movies more than games.

Thats why I said usually.

There are so many occasions where I see a Mercy sitting there holding ult with 2 people dead because she wants to res more people.

When in reality ressing those 2 people usually leads to those other 2 not dying and reduces your chances of dying while waiting for the rest of your team to die.

>forced stealth segments in JRPG
what

Nah. I'll pass, I'd prefer Lena though.

It's just the example that came 1st thanks to /v/ weebs and i didn't want to bother thinking about a better one for a couple minutes.

There is also the SHMUP in La Mulana, but that one is too specific and the game too obscure for this general the SHMUP was alright, though.