Who won?

It's pop history, brah.
They had a damn joke about catherine and her bestiality but no reference to Ivan murdering his own son?

Ivan is like a his shitposter complaining why everyone the the epithet "the Great" doesn't deserve it. He truly is the Terrible.

Still, I understand their gonna make a reference to the beastiality thing but the whole "it takes a russian to defeat a russian" is retarded when she is German...

That was great, one of their best. I'm tired of celebrities and fictional characters. I want more historical figures and this delivered in spades.

Except they did mention Ivan's son.

why do people watch this shit?

She lived and ruled in Russia. You Europeans have an autistic way at looking at nationality.

Sometimes they're entertaining.

Very hit and miss.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say because it is entertaining.

If you grew up and spent your formative years in one country and them move to another I don't think you could ever call myself a member of the latter country in any true sense of the word.

Even if you're its monarch.

She lived in Russia, she was Russian.

She wasn't born in Russia, she isn't A Russian.

It's not nationality, it's background. With your logic her sentence loses meaning.

"It takes a Russian to defeat a Russian" means nothing if everyone can be Russian. She obvously meant people born in Russia, a.k.a Russian people. Of which she is not a part as she wasn't born in Russia.

its [spoiler]fun[/spoiler]

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It's really fucking obvious why they called her Russian.

>so every tsar after Peter is not really Russian

>Catherine the Great
>Russian

Wtf

She was a Russian ruler defeating another Russian ruler. This isn't difficult.

this desu. she didn't even practice eastern orthodoxy until she was like 16

Basically yes.

A Russian ruler does not mean she was Russian herself, just that she ruled Russia.

With that logic, Alexander was Persian

You are being autistic. I'm being serious. This is exactly what an autist would do. They would point out one little detail and obsess over it despite everyone already knowing about it but nonetheless not obsessing over it because they understand what the person was actually trying to communicate. You know what they were communicating but you are still obsessing over it.

>It takes a Russian ruler to defeat a Russian Ruler.
There, are you happy now? Would you have preferred they throw off the beat saying that instead of relying on you to read between the lines?

>Instead of reading between the lines

Considering she referred to Alexander as "Macedonian" and not "Greek" in the preceding line, it should be obvious she was talking about where people were born/their ethnicity rather than who they were known for ruling.

Jesus fucking christ

Don't be retarded, just because it fits with the beat doesn't change the fact that it was wrong.

They could have Alexander rapping against Augustus saying "It takes an Egyptian to defeat an Egyptian"

It would be the same story and just as wrong. Only difference is that Ivan is actually Russian.

Also "relying on you to read between the lines" is stupid. You could use that for almost every mistake. They could say "Rasputin" was Russias best tsar!" and then just say "no man, it's about his connection to the tsar, just read between the lines"

It's still wrong and stupid

Everyone knows what they were communicating, including you. You are being autistic, and increasingly not in the simple meme version of the word. You know exactly what they were communicating but you are nonetheless obsessing over it. You are compelled to.

>Also "relying on you to read between the lines" is stupid. You could use that for almost every mistake.
I'm not joking nor am I bullying you, but this is super autistic.

>Nitpicking is autistic

Everyone does this, not just autists.

>Everyone who doesn't agree with me is autistic

So you have no arguments? You agree that they were wrong?

Eh, they're often funny and have some obscure historical facts thrown in often. Some are weaker than others, certainly. I'm just glad someone is trying to do something of this nature.

My top 5:

Sir Isaac Newton vs Bill Nye

Edison vs Tesla

George Washington vs William Wallace

EA Poe vs Stephen King

The Hitler vs Vader ones suck. And when the hell are they going to get Teddy Roosevelt in one?

>No Genghis vs Easter Bunny

Shit list

The Eastern vs Western philosophers is still the best one IMO.

>Edison vs Tesla
This is objectively the best one. The beat, lyrics, Edison being a complete dickbag. It's just really well done.
My favorite is still Bill Gates vs Steve Jobs. The dancing and beat slay me.

Me again. Forgot Picasso vs Bob Ross.

I appreciate it's got historical figures, but I couldn't really feel the theme. What was it? Who was the best ruler? Who was the best 'the Great'? But then why Ivan the Terrible? It just felt all over the place and didn't have that nice pacing as the other videos involving multiple rappers turning up one after the other.

user, if you are looking just to win an internet argument, then fine, you win. But my advice to you is to focus more on the ideas of others rather than obsessing wording that can merely be interpreted as something incorrect. It will serve you well in the future.

I think was just the most notable historical figures with descriptors after their name.

Everyone except Ivan was called "The Great", and he said "No Great can beat me" a few times

Have to agree though, it could've been done a lot better if they gave just two more lines.

It probably would have been much better focusing just on whoever was known as the Great with each character shitting on the other for not living up to the name or whatever. Alexander, Cyrus, Alfred, Charlemagne, Frederick, Catherine, etc.

>no Cyrus

Into the trash it goes.

I get it now though. Like said. It was Ivan the Terrible versus Alexander the Great, but when Alexander croaked the rest of the Greats began taking his place.

Makes sense, but isn't a great premise to begin with. Alexander vs Ivan doesn't make any sense to begin with, and there's no real point to having Alexander be followed up by other Greats just to fight Ivan for no real reason.

>Alexander pulls out a gladius
Hmm

So what other historical figures would you guys like to see from them?

Think of it as The Terrribles versus The Greats in chronological order.

Rommel vs Montgomery vs Patton.

What the fuck is the point, why this completely random mix of guys? Aren't those supposed to be at least a little thematical like Vader vs Hitler? Even Caesar vs Shaka made more sense, even if it was a cringey decision.

>MACARTHUR OUT OF FUCKING NOWHWERE

Constantine XI.

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That was quite bad. The costumes were worse than usual, the rapping was bad, hard to hear and little historical references.

Poor Pompey.

Shaka vs Caesar had some great references

>The costumes were worse than usual
This was the biggest positive for me (aside from Alexander's costume)

Fredrick's bit was great.

>If you grew up and spent your formative years in one country and them move to another I don't think you could ever call myself a member of the latter country in any true sense of the word.
>Even if you're its monarch.

She was, what, 16 when she married and went to Russia? It's not unusual for women especially to adopt their new country as their own, in fact you're basically expected to. Marie Antoinette was 14 or so and even on her way to France told a delegation not to speak German to her because, "as of this moment I am completely French."

>tfw when pictures of this chick leaked on Instagram a few weeks ago everyone thought it was Marie Antoinette

I'm glad it wasn't, I can't imagine how ERB would butcher Marie Antoinette.

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Actually she was crying that she was saying goodbye to her Germans ladies and afterwards told the French ladies around her "but from this moment I will not forget that I am French." She didn't say "completely".

I know how much of a bunch of pop hating hipsters Veeky Forums is so here is a lesser known history rap battle.

youtube.com/watch?v=kCEUZ4rFiac

>Serbia gets a whole verse
>France gets nothing

I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen this, memes are often used from it.

Sounds a little like Battlefield 1.

I might actually take the time to learn about Prussia and Fredrick after this video.

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[spoiler]Pompey vs Criss Angel when?[/spoiler]

>France just lurks in the back and doesn't get a single word

I wonder who could be behind this video.

>Britain gets a second verse and France gets nothing

Nice picks, mine would have to be
King vs Poe
Lewis & Clark vs Bill & Ted (Most underrated one in my opinion)
Newton vs Nye

As far as the new battle went, I'd say it went from best to worst
Frederick
Alexander
Cat/Ivan at the same level