Why is the Swedish Empire and their battle tactics so unknown to most people I meet...

Why is the Swedish Empire and their battle tactics so unknown to most people I meet? Were the Caroleans not the bes soldiers of their day?

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All thanks to brave Finnish soldiers.

What should I know about the history of sweden anyway?
Inform me.

Nice Dubs

They were at one point considered a great power and defeated other great powers of the day like Russia and Poland. But this was the 17th century.

>Dubs
I meant trips.

yes, Carl, yes, good, very good

however

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they were vikings who were strong warriors wielding dane axes and great explorers also

Fair enough.
But if that's all then I might as well just ignore them like before.

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Nah if you go deeper in history you'll discover there interesting viking past.

mobility of the lighter Swedish cannons proved a factor, also Gustavus Adolphus innovated his cavalry to abandon the previous use of pistol and caracol maneuver and issued the charge with the sabre

You skipped the part where they had Norway.

List of meme empires:

>Swedish
>Serbian

Help me out here, Veeky Forums.

Tbh Sweden should've just united Scandinavia instead.

>Macedon
>Spain
>Mongols

>Ethiopian Empire
>Brazilian Empire
>Mexican Empire

HAKKAA PÄÄLLE!
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they tried many times but they couldn't. scandis are worse than fucking balkans.

haha no

1721 to 1803 seriously looks like a dick and ballsack to me.

Trebizond and Vietnam

People don't know anything about history, why is this surprising?

Not only for you

lol'd hard man. thanks for the comic.

They are known to those interested in military history I guess.

They absolutely rekt Germany, Russia and Poland and had probably the best soldiers of the time. Bretty interesting

they had probably the biggest influence on biology and chemistry, and it was a goliath in political and military power in europe during the great age

> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroleans#Infantry_G.C3.A5.E2.80.93P.C3.A5
>we're constantly outnumbered, what will we do?
>charge them lol

and then it worked

No there are still stories about the cruelty of swedish troops during the thrity years war in my region

Germany?

*thirty
Yes, south western region

>be scarcely populated barren shithole of a land
>conquer more barren shithole
>develop tactics of melee charge in the age of muskets
>march into the middle of russia for no reason

swedish "empire"

Why were they so brutal? I thought discipline was high in Swedish army of that time.

Discipline when it comes to god and your fellow soldiers, The army has to eat in a time were logistics were hard, So looting became a thing.

Not mention looting and sacking cities was part and parcel of war up to that time.

it wasn't the army. it was mostly mercenaries, soldier's families and random looters following the army. excluding of course raiding parties deployed especially to terrorize the territory but they did exactly what they were told to so it wasn't actually discipline matter.

>develop tactics of melee charge in the age of muskets
Not even this. They saw Poles doing it so they've mimicked it with lesser success.

Lol no, The Swedes developed the tactic to shoot when you "see the enemy eyes" fire a volley and then charge, before the enemy can reload, Which gives the enemy 2 options, meet the charge/reload and try to shoot again, Or run away. They chose number 2 most of the times.

well one of you fuckers give source

Because people only care about le vikings

who mostly weren't even swedes

I'm not one of those fuckers, but:
kismeta.com/diGrasse/HowHussarFought.htm
polisharms.com/influences/

Every nation on earth always think their country is a special snowflake.

>The Swedes developed the tactic to shoot when you "see the enemy eyes" fire a volley and then charge
That's a bold claim. Source?

>Forgetting the war of 1814 and the resulting unequal alliance
The nations shared their french king (Bernadotte) and Sweden decided the foreign policy, in every other manner Norway was an independent nation. Not including Norway on that map does make sense.

Didn't they fight one battle where the Poles so thoroughly BTFOd the Swedes out they only lost like 10 guys?

Apparently, Sweden kept using pike-armed infantry successfully well into the 1700s after the rest of Europe abandoned it.

Perhaps that's because Sweden's enemies also kept using pike armed infantry. Only western Europe had abanoned it.

Yes one battle among dozens where the swedes kicked the poles hard.

Latin Empire
Austro-Hungarian Empire
German """""""""empire""""""""

>mfw they actually had to reissue EU coins precisely because of this

I bet your country doesn't have a official font!

What the fuck are you talking about? Bayonet charges were the best way to decisively break an enemy other than those of cavalry.

The Leeroy Jenkins of armies.

Aaah the painting of the battle of Helsingborg

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