and you magically didnt mention enchantress or np, but im retarded by saying gyro should not be there you know the heroes are good, but either because people dont know how to play properly or because they need a coordinated team, they do poorly on pubs. gyro is one of them
Gabriel Ross
>bloodthorn >bad Why are people retarded here? It's like everyone is a 2k shitter. Oh wait...
Ryder Wilson
>sub 40% winrate in 5k+ ranked >sub 40% winrate in pro games >never picked in pro games >DUDE BROOD IS GOOD TRUST ME LOL ;)
Jaxon Cooper
>orchid >good
Sebastian Long
How the fuck can someone not play Gyro "properly"? He's incredibly basic. It's not like Enchantress or Furion where micro is required. And he doesn't need a coordinated team either.
He used to have a high winrate. Now his winrate sits at 40%. He's garbage. Get over it.
John Peterson
>implying pubs are good at this game >implying pros know how to use brood I bet you only play fotm heroes. This concept of, "I never see it so it's bad lel" is a bad meme. You're a straight up shitter if you think x hero is bad because it doesn't get played.
Joseph Phillips
brood is objectively bad but can be amazingly game winning if the planets align
Leo Ross
yeah mr 3k a 7k gold item countered by like 30 other items is """""good""""
i can see you leaving le trench very soon my friend (ps this is a sarcasm you will forever be shit when you waste all your gold on shit items)
Samuel Scott
t. unranked
James Allen
what's it like being intentionally bad at this game?
Leo Flores
>no ancient stacks >no ultra farming radiant jungle with call down >poor positioning not respecting his squishyness >no coordinated rocket barrage ganks
Zachary Gutierrez
I ironically buy the worst items possible for a hero
Christopher Robinson
>>implying pubs are good at this game >>implying pros know how to use brood Then who does? Tell me, who knows how to use Brood?
If it's not pubs, and it's not pros, then who?
Mason Morgan
Oh i forgot the most important two. Puck. Pugna.
John Cook
>phantom assassin =blink in to die >elder titan =aura slave >riki = no damge >warlock = stupid cool down >drow ranger =aura slave
Logan Wood
>puck >bad le mao
David Ross
1000 bucks says that user thinks he's good w brood because he has a 60+% winrate in normal skill level
Jordan Rogers
I'm a shitter: The Post
I never said pubs don't know how to brood. They're just shit. The couple of games brood was picked recently, the "pros" didn't even micro her spiderlings. It was embarrassing.
Matthew Gonzalez
How are you enjoying the beta?
Lucas Watson
troll warlord
Cooper Scott
i dont think he's great right now, but definitely not at the bottom 20 heroes.
Samuel Hill
The same people who spammed "EE is le bad" are the same people spamming "Syndered Major ROFL". They're just twitch retards who don't know anything about the game and just spam memes and pretend they're true. EE has proven over and over again that he's a great carry, even winning the Shanghai Major himself, and Synderen will do the same.
Nicholas Morris
A good Brood player will win the entire game herself by creating enough space for her 4 team mates to become 6 slotted.
She's a hero with an actual high skill ceiling, unlike Invoker. People that know how to micro spiders correctly so they don't get fed will force the whole enemy team to camp her lane in fear of taking buildings if they leave for a few seconds.
Good Broods are few are far between but they exist and you know them when you see them because there's 4 people in her lane at 9 minutes trying to stop their Tier 2 from falling.
Leo Ward
You're right. I'm sure the fact that Gyro's winrate is so low is because he's hard to play.
It's not the fact that he's just garbage.
Hudson Adams
>those pants and legs HNGG
>that hair
absolutely disgusting
Julian Bailey
Syndern is an ovjectivley bad player though. Almost every agrees. He's a great captain put skill wise is undeniably the weakest link on his team.
Easton Edwards
>but they exist They exist at 2k MMR because that's the only place Brood can win.
Dylan Hall
watch empire v vega right now
so this is the power of broodmother...
Brayden Wright
t. 2k
Henry Rogers
I am learning more and more from /d2g/ all the time.
I am confused right now though. Who is the only constant on the enemy team in this game?
Ethan Taylor
A good brood will win lane while denying the enemy team's carry, or anyone, to jungle safely. She overtakes the jungle easily and dominates lane.
People will say her teamfight presence is lackluster but her ult is amazing. Lifesteal and damage. She turns into a carry with the right items.
But no, we get absolute retards in this general who constantly shitpost "x is bad because muh stats of shitters" or "oh wow x is good now kek"
Jaxon Williams
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Cameron Bennett
gyro, the only person trying to win the game
Jose James
...
Gavin Robinson
If he was trying to win, he shouldn't have picked Gyrocopter.
Robert Butler
>EE >winning the chink major by himself >not w33 for carrying the burden, pld for finally gittin gud, and misery for not feeding excessively
Christian Rivera
Clearly his contribution is outweighing his faults
I don't see the problem, it's not like PPD is a mechanical god that's known for great plays.
Jeremiah Ramirez
Why does everyone act like its the worst item in existence in a vacuum? Its only terrible if you fucking rush it for no reason. Its mostly situational and late game enough that you will probably hardly ever get it if you're winning already. Its like old Silver's Edge: dont fucking rush it. If you carry orchid, fine, get it later to increase your carry potential, but quit shitting on an item because all the shitters in your trench rush it. Just because everyone's initial reaction to it was "FREE CRITS?!" doesnt mean its mandatory. Go use that 3k extra gold you got from snowballing with Orchid on something more impactful than an active you probably dont have the attack speed to use properly.
Andrew Foster
It's literally NS trying his hardest to lose and everyone else playing normally
Caleb Walker
>totally ignoring the fact that she drops off hard
Adrian Morris
(You)
Evan Ramirez
>I've played the game so little I've never seen a Brood played properly
Oh you poor, sweet, fragile, infinite, delicate little babies....
Exactly. She forces other heroes into her lane, so less XP for them, she takes over the jungle, less gold for them, she massacres anyone as soon as they're alone. Brood is like a Techies; a good one is gonna change the way the entire game is played. She's a unique and powerful hero but is literally a gold making machine for the enemy if you can't play her well
Ryder Fisher
So w33ha was apparently an asshole to Puppey and eventually got kicked for Arteezy, but what did Misery do? Did he deserve being kicked (again)?
Alexander King
>kids actually believe some heroes are absolute trash because muh esports It's like they're trying to be this retarded
Ryan Perez
He got kicked for a better player
Jackson Harris
misery was not top3 offlaners
they asked universe if he wants to join, he said only if rtz can too
universe>>>misery w33ha=rtz
it was a worthy trade so they did it
thats all there is to it
Aiden Harris
>It's like they're trying to be this retarded
Tinker is shit at EVERY level of play. There are even better options if you are smurfing.
Dominic Peterson
no I've been destroyed by brood but I am 2k. I've seen her have good games seldom and shit games most of the time in pro. I know you think you're better than the pros but you're not and that settles the argument for me
Hudson Barnes
arteezy wanted to play with universe so miseryy has to go to make room
Austin Myers
Are you sure you're not mixing up universe with zai?
I recall this exact same thing happend when zai and rtz joined secret last year
Dominic Reed
What an autist
Brody Brooks
>So w33ha was apparently an asshole to Puppey story?
Isaiah Phillips
>build midas on a hero like Lifestealer >Lose
just like my pubs
Daniel Phillips
Reminder that the game is balanced around competitive and not your 2k unranked games
if a hero cannot win in competitive it is effectively useless
David Bennett
When does 100% lifesteal and +120 damage fall off? When does a 60% miss chance fall off? The carry isn't going to buy mkb for just you, and if it does then that's 5400 gold you forced the carry to buy. Please tell me when
Jacob Rivera
yeah because it happend twice
they replaced their support players that switched to offlane with the best offlaner in the world at that time
you have to understand its SUPER shitty to join a bunch of people that already know eachother for long, beucase if somethign goes wrong they will always side with eachother and you will be alone
if there are 2 of you at least you have some leverage
Easton Wilson
Alot of heroes share the same winrate in tournament play as they do in pub play
Like Rubick.
Gavin Mitchell
>implying anyone here said they were better than pros I'm just not some 2k shitter who memes fotm heroes and understand how to play different heroes
Nathan Sullivan
No it was more like
>WHHHAAAAAAAAAAA >CL-CL-CL-CL-CLEMENT IT'S NOT ME I SWEAR >"Artour, it didn't work last time, it w-" >NOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE TAKE ME BACK IT'S EVERYONE ELSE I SWEAR PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE i'll bring universe too imagine the hype >"That'd just destroy multiple te-" >"NONONONONONON IT'S EVERYONE ELSE, TAKE ME BACK, TAKE ME BAAAAAAACCCCKKKKKKKK KICK WHOEVER WORKED HARD TO GET HERE AND TAKE ME BACK I'M THE BIGGER NAME !!!!!
RTZ biggest faggot in this scene honestly, and I hate EE and all his weeaboo fans, they don't hold a candle to MEMEtz and people who unironically enjoy him.
Robert Edwards
link me the game where brood is a good right click carry pham >force the enemy carry to spend 5400 gold on one of the best damage items in the game you sure showed him