So, with all the talk about defense and how it works in PvP a friend and I decided to do some testing. We also tested rolls yesterday: so I'll include those results as well for a complete defensive workup.
So here's the defense test setup. He was using: >+10 refined lucerne >25/25 str/dex >no buffs I was using: >baseline dragonbro for minimum possible defense >dragonbro with steel ring +1 >conjurator set >black leather set with assassin hood >dancer's set >wolfbro set >knight set >havel set with steel ring +1 for maximum possible defense
Here are the results in number of hits to kill. Dragonbro: 4 Dragonbro with steel ring +1: 6 Conjurator: 6 Black leather with assassin hood: 6 Dancer: 6 Wolfbro: 6 Knight: 6 Havel with steel ring +1: 7
Correct me if I'm wrong: but that looks like in PvP it doesn't matter how much defense you have, but just that you have some. Now: note that only the dragonbro, conjurator, and black leather sets had the sub-30% fastroll, and this is where that comes in. Fast rolls appear to be about 50% hard to hit through than 70% rolls. This appears to be a combination of both the extra i-frames, the extra travel distance, and the faster recovery.
What does this all mean? Wear whatever armor set you want to wear, so long as you stay below 30% weight, and there is basically no difference between a dragonbro with a steel ring and someone wearing armor outside of that lightning vulnerability.
Luis Bell
>reposting your incorrect shitpost >people will believe you again top kek
Juan Myers
How much damage would a heavy pierce shield do? Where would you rate its moveset, from joke to passable?
Kevin Campbell
loli character when
Jason Thomas
HOSTS
RANK YOUR REGULARS
Grayson Rodriguez
>Played through the game 3 times already >Let's try out a faith build because everyone says it's shit >Find zero attack spells until you hit Farron
????????
Lucas Cooper
yes, great axe is a lot of fun and you just have to learn how to aim it in pvp. it has a lot of reach as opposed to BKGA's two handed R1 too
Wyatt Wood
rings for pure str build?
Isaiah Campbell
Faith is for healing and buffing.
Damage doesn't get reasonable until you hit 60 faith.
Ryan Evans
i am like super bad at parrying the fist moveset fuck you aerthas
Evan Bennett
the shield bash would probably only work vs low level inexperienced players who try to block everything
Aaron Clark
>incorrect None of that was incorrect. All of it was directly tested.
Ian Lopez
>IT DOES FUCKALL DAMAGE Faith really got gutted this time, it's hilarious really
Ian Moore
In terms of skill or fun?
Chase Sanders
>Gorilla DEAD >Kate THICC
Charles Williams
Everyone is shit The worst one is me_________
Cameron Bell
>It's a "host sits back and expects you to do everything for them" episode Get off your backside you bone idle cunt.
Blake Miller
YES
ADD FASHION TOO IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT
Cameron Thompson
What's the best overall Curved Greatsword for a DEX build? Does Carthus Curved ever trigger bleed providing you use rouge?
Evan Hernandez
WHICH THREAD IS THE RIGHT ONE SHTIFUCKIGNGIWHEI
Jordan Stewart
Best rings for pure str build?
John Bell
True, but it can also be wielded as a right hand weapon
Grayson Wood
I mean I wouldn't really give a shit, it's just that Faith spells have zero buttons to actually hit until that except for standard melee
It's like if starting sorcerers only got magic weapon as their starting ability until farron
Connor Bennett
Carthus Greatsword Yes
Dominic Brooks
Rolls have been directly tested and there's no difference in recovery or iframes between 29.9% & 69.9% stop shitposting
Robert Clark
the full wep art procs a bleed and you can't roll out of it if you hit them with an r1 first
Sebastian Brooks
9/10 knightfus ruin my autism but I like cute girls, so I made this. r8 or h8
Cooper Green
>it's a suddenly stop getting summoned episode
David Thomas
copypaste from last thread I hosnestly hoped it had more somber music to reflect the state of decay and the impeding end of the Age of fire which was the entire point of the Lord of cinder theme of DaS
Christopher Nelson
What did you expect, putting down your sign in a Souls game in 2016? Vast, vast majority of hosts are massive fucking shitters who hate challenge.
Adrian Fisher
>trusting fextrafail And yet there is. We literally just tested it last night.
Exile is probably the best, even at 40/40 that thing does more damage with sharp infusion.
Dylan Thomas
It can, but it usually won't in 1 combo unless they have crazy low bleed resist or something Exile will probably outdamage it even accounting for bleed, but the Carthus looks cooler and does a flip
Jaxson Gray
>19 pages of people arguing about something completely irrelevant
Tyler Nguyen
Why is there 19 pages of this shit?
Robert Russell
Is the spear penetrating ogre?
Leo Martinez
>Kate I have over 1gb footage of Kate's THICC ASS >Gorilla 10/10, but people don't like it when he uses spiked shield only. Get a lance m8 >Aerthas He got outplayed so far >Weyland Samson topkek
James Adams
IS THIS THE REAL THREAD???????
Isaac Ross
>trusting fextralife >fextralife you mean /dsg/ because an user tested this frame per frame with CE to check if iframes were active and if movement was possible
hang yourself shitposter
Benjamin Kelly
That doesn't makes his post irrelevant. -30% rolls annoying as fuck. You cant even phantom hit them
Josiah Richardson
Is it possible to build a meme luck build that relies on procs?
Seems like it could be funny.
Jordan Wood
>Get a lance m8 If you can drop me one that'd be great, I only have spears and a lot of them are upgraded somewhat
Sebastian Robinson
user, did you test if elemental resistances don't matter in PvP either?
Henry Sullivan
The best part, the Miracle vendor barely seels any either, I was so left down when I found out First time where I wanted to commit heavily into Faith (since I never really gave much shit about it in DS1)
Then I found out: - You barely get access to any offensive ones - They either scale awfully, or deal low damage - Morne's Ring is 12%, but it felt like nothing since the damage was already low as fuck - Same goes for Ring of the Sun's First Born
Juan Morris
Isn't exile heavier and requires significantly more STR investment? It feels more like a quality weapon.
Christian Hernandez
>You're so shit every host has stopped summoning you
Samuel Diaz
Rude, sh-she's not that old! Only mature!
Yeah, Exile is fucking OP. Once I started using that edgy thing I just couldn't drop it. Nice moveset and good base damage. Only downside is the weight but once you get a good fashion set it's all ogre, especially when you upgraded it. You become slave to the edge.
John Williams
Just fought O&S with my Pyromancer. Had to do a mid-fight inventory swap for my catchpole. Fight ended with me chainstunning Raichu in the nuts. I think he regretted doing the tall thing.
James Brooks
If you mean Bleed builds, they are very real and strong. Hollow Twinblades are a Tier 2 meme weapon.
Kayden Davis
Yes, entirely viable. Bleed builds are usually luck builds.
Mason Foster
never used a lance before in any dark souls. was really difficult to try to do jousting for the first time with a weapon you had never used. Great fun though
I want to fight that god damn ape more
t. aerthas
Jayden Cox
Can anyone on PS4 help me with Aldrich?
Jordan Rivera
>Yhorm's Great Machete or >Dragonslayer Greataxe
Owen Rivera
>There's a fucking cum stain on the Xanthous Crown was it being used as an onahole???
Ryder Parker
I just can't find a weapon I like, nothing is adaptable enough. Its either too slow to hit them before they back up(which they are constantly fucking doing) or too weak to do any real damage before I'm out of stamina.
Doesn't even matter if I manage to win this game of attrition because everyone just runs around willy nilly when they get low with no regard for stamina and unless they're actively engaging I just can't fucking seem to hit them before they sippy. Is there a way to even counter this crap? My hunter charms are slow as fuck and even if they manage to hit so what? They just backs up with a shield raised for 15 seconds and its gone again, and I'm down 1/fucking 5 charms. I can't even seem to backstab them when they chug Fights drag on for years because of this, god help me if they have a phantom or a co-invader.
Why does it all feel so floaty? DaS never felt like this.
Jackson King
>die really embarassingly >other phantom walks over to my corpse and does "welcome" mid fight
O-okay then
Jordan Gutierrez
I think it's happening to me too
Alexander Turner
Prisoner's chain or gundyr's halberd?
Jeremiah Nelson
Same deal, just have *some* and don't go negative. So if you want to kill dragonbros: bring lightning.
>CE tells me about recovery frames Just like CE lets you "softban" other people, right? RIGHT? No.
Asher Bennett
Sure. What's the password?
Easton Martinez
I am so sorry I pit these forces against one another. Please forgive me.
Tyler Flores
That's what disappointed me in DaS. DeS had a lot of somber or tense music where you'd expect "epic" fight themes in a video game, those were the minority. Most DaS songs just felt like such generic action-heavy songs.
Brody Davis
Greataxe
Levi Lee
>topkek I don't know how to feel about this rating
John White
Here's what mine can do and I suck, so you can probably do better.
Anthony Green
The funniest thing is that there is a scroll in fucking LOTHRIC CASTLE (i.e. the goddamn end game) that gives access to Blessed Weapon, a 15-faith buff you get after already unlocking three superior ones.
This is long after the catacombs where it might come in useful.
Thankfully you can get your hands on it early with the Dancer glitch and gives you SOMETHING cool to work with early on, but it's still baffling why anyone would put it there.
Jackson Cook
Maybe those are the same thing as that soupy thang at Oceiros'?
Isaiah Perry
Thanks to everyone who hosted the jousting, was a lot of fun
A double kill was definitely the most fitting way to end it
Eli Miller
I suppose, it's pretty sad though, I didn't want to believe the game had been overrun with casuals but I guess you can't run from it forever. >host spends 5 minutes in their inventory >host goes afk >host sprints away somewhere and dies a few seconds later by falling off a cliff or something
I get that there'll be noobs, but people just seem to be so inconsiderate. It's like, I'm here to help you and you're just being a cunt. Maybe I should just go back to pvp.
Sebastian Butler
Thanks for hosting.
No more hosts boys, its ogre.
Josiah Clark
havel's favor prisoner's chain whatever the fuck else you feel like
Tyler White
Thanks for showing up to the event guys/gals, Im going to take a break from hosting on PC, you guys can keep thrusting without me, I'll be back on later.
It's the only way I know how, love
Juan Perez
dsg
Joshua Reyes
RANK THE FUNNEST JOUSTERS TO FIGHT
RANK THE LEAST FUN TO FIGHT
Camden Gomez
Sasuga, Trump-sama.
Kayden Gomez
The weight really does hurt, your sidearm options, but yeah I love this thing.
Brody Collins
Jousting was more fun than I thought it'd be, shame it finished so early. Where we gonna go next, anybody want to host a free for all in Wall of Lothric?
Ryan Anderson
DaS1 had the same problem with the main miracle vendor being in the fuckin tomb of the giants.
Landon Johnson
>Nobody talks about PvE and fun builds to try >It's just PvP
Michael Torres
>brass set You're making my kokoro doki doki
Charles Perry
i'd continue hosting if i could but that's it for today.
Adam King
There's no such thing as a PVE "build", literally anything is viable.
Colton Butler
Okay, my sign is at the bonfire
Cameron Bell
last time i went to rosaria there was a worm that dropped heysel pick+xanthous crown when i killed it
explain??
Landon James
You! That made my heart skip several beats
Julian Howard
Most fun - The ornstein cosplay, the big ass green dude who I had a shield fight with Mid-tier - Everyone else Shit tier - Dung Pie Aerthas tier - Aerthas
Eli Turner
Because PVE is basic shit, discussion was over within the first two weeks. Its fun, but really what more is there to discuss? We know what works and doesn't work, it doesn't change and until DLC drops it won't.
Isaiah Turner
>shame it finished so early Wait, we're done? Shame
Xavier Gomez
>try to jump to get the Firekeeper gear >die >die >die >die man, I basically earned all of Yoel's levels for free, goddamn. That ledge's geometry is bizarrely tight
Joshua Gomez
Why the fuck do people run ganksquads just so they can gank?
They need to make their e-peen feel bigger?
Oliver Peterson
Just fucking roll man
Mason Stewart
Because /dsg/ is filled with twinks that like to compare their epeens.
Easton Smith
The thing is, I wanted to stop using it, since it looks so fucking edgy, but Sharp Exile sword simply outperformed every great weapon I had.
Dominic Rogers
whats a good ass infusable strength weapon thats not the dark sword