How old is the "cheese eating surrender monkeys" joke? I know it became really popular during the Iraq war...

Full of bullshit but this one takes the cake imo

>- French Revolution
>- Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

Wins-Draws-Losses

What Frog propaganda is this now?

The 1870 war was an absolute disaster, the Prussians stomped their shit in and then some.

Hundred year's war is mixed because both sides got great victories.

Yeah Italian Wars were several wars but were all of the same conflict, which France eventually lost

>>- Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.
Kek.

Its kinda interesting that the two nations who were historically the most anti-french and caused the most embarrasing french desasters (england, germany) never really buy into that meme. Or at least thats my impression.

Cheers.

>The 1870 war was an absolute disaster, the Prussians stomped their shit in and then some.

Compare it to the other wars Prussia waged in the same era (Austria, Denmark..) and you'll understand why France was not mocked by anyone for it

And it's funny how the meme was started by a nation that owes its very existence to French military might

If you get beaten up the least of 3 guys that doesn't mean you weren't badly beaten

>france lost every war
>surrounded by european power
>but somehow it manage to keep the largest piece of western europe
care to explain anglo-cuck ?

No, but it means the two other guys wont mock you

The two other guys, but what about everyone else?

It didnt mean shit to anyone
Winning and losing wars were common business until after WW2
Prussia got conquered in 19 days by France in 1806, yet they became the strongest european power a few decades later
Mocking a country for one war when plenty had happened before and plenty were to happen after was pointless and thus not a thing

But the Huguenots were crushed in these wars and forced into submission or out of the country. How the hell is that a draw or loss?

>The 1870 war was an absolute disaster, the Prussians stomped their shit in and then some.
To be honest, from historical perspective it was stomping. France was weaker because and got tricked, then it lost in battle.

For WW2 it was lost due to sheer incompetence. They've sent all their soldiers into low countries leaving no reserves behind. The feedback between the staff and the actual army was very shitty as well. So when the Germans arrived in massive amounts through Ardennes, the high command knew about it when it was too late but they didn't have anybody to deal with the thread anyway, it was this bad.

It was also the fact that before 1870 war the government cared and prepared the army well. It lacked good field artillery(which was one of the reasons why Germans reigned supreme) but were no pushovers. The 1920's and 1930's political chaos in France really hampered any rearmament policy they could possibly do. You've had 3 companies making 3 different tanks fulfilling the same role and being largely the same despite sharing no common parts(often they weren't even compatible with each other) and other bullshit like that. In 1870? Nope, they just got outnumbered, outsmarted and so on but it wasn't as shameful as 1940 was.

The nail to the coffin was Vichy regime though. It was literally How To Be Absolute Fucking Cuck: French Edition.

>ody to deal with the thread anyway,
threat*

>tfw pussy ass frogs don't join us in Iraq

>tfw they were right to stay out
>tfw their economy still became shit and they get attacked by muzzies

This

France had been a dominant military power since at least Charlemagne.

Nobody even tries to pretend Iraq was a good idea anymore.

>implying we didnt defeat Al Qaida there
>implying we hadnt left a stable democratic country, that could have stabilized the whole region
>implying the years following our victory there werent the most peaceful ones in the middle east before Obama fucked up the Arab Spring and pushed Syria into civil war

150,000 civilians dead according to the levinson inquiry.
Funny enough, the news gives more a of a shit about the 169 british soldiers who died

> stabilized the whole region
Yeah! Just look... how stable... the whole region is! No wars, no refugees, no crazy islamists at all.

>all this shilling about France not being mocked after losing the Franco-Prussian War because Prussia had just beaten up on everyone else
>not realizing that the French weren't mocked for it because they were still being mocked for getting their shit kicked in by fucking Mexico of all places
Lads...

>Spain, Netherlands, France and Prussia provide aid to the U.S.
>we're supposed to suck French dick and only French dick even though they've fucked us more times than your whore mother
A single Prussian general did more good for the U.S. revolution than the entirety of France, to the point that we still follow his fucking book TO THIS DAY

>Spain, Netherlands, France and Prussia provide aid to the U.S.

Only France provided significant help, faggot
Spain sent a few ships, Prussia sent a general and the Netherlands basically just recognized the independence
Meanwhile, France gave the rebels guns, uniforms and ammos at the very beginning of the rebellion in 1776 and eventually even intervened directly two years later
If it wasnt for France, the rebellion would've been over in weeks

Next time, inform yourself on your own history before you unleash your unexplainable butthurt on the nation that saved your ass, fatty
And that comes from a Brit who dislike the French (for many reasons I won't explain here)

>not realizing that the French weren't mocked for it because they were still being mocked for getting their shit kicked in by fucking Mexico of all places

But that's wrong
No one mocked France about Mexico (why do you even invent shit anyway?) for the simple reason that Mexico didnt beat France
France went, conquered the country, occupied it for a few years and then withdrew after negociations with the US
It's not until the French had left that Mexican Republicans could finally take back their country and crush the faction France supported in their civil war

I know this is b8 but for the ameritrash lurking:
>killed hundreds of soldiers
>killed 150 000 Iraqi
>made whole strategic region turn to shit
>created ISIS
>achieved no objective whatsoever
>americuck are still guggling Bush cum till this day

>unexplainable butthurt
Not him, but it's very explainable. Outside of the Revolution, US relations with France have been VERY tumultuous, even leading to undeclared war, to say the least. Just because they're on good terms now and then doesn't mean it was always so. The French are dicks desu.

Germany has a shit ton of anti-france jokes, most of them based on WW2.

>How many gears does a french tank have? - 6 backwards and one forward for parades.
>Why does a french tank has a rear-view mirror? - So the drivers can see the front.
> Why are there so many avenues in Paris? - Because a German soldier doesn't like to march in the sun.
> Who won the first Tour de France? - The 7th German Tank Division.
are the most common.

ah,French people...alternatively known as frogs,the surrender niggers of europe.

For how long did they resist against nazi germany again?
LoL

It's because of WW2 when France surrendered after a couple weeks, got half their territory annexed and the rest was cucked into installing a puppet government.

5 years

>How old is the "cheese eating surrender monkeys" joke?

Simpsons did it. Pretty sure it was grounds keeper Willie and the line is, "bonjourrrr you cheese eating surrender monkeys".

Nigga I know my god damn Simpsons.

>> Who won the first Tour de France? - The 7th German Tank Division.

S C H O N U N G S L O S

>they were still reeling from WW1 and were in no position to fight.
Meme. France had one of the largest militaries in the world at the start of WW2. The problem was their command was dumb as fuck and had almost their entire force deployed in Belgium, and when the Panzer divisions managed their successful (and incredibly lucky) sneak attack through the Ardennes they were completely cut off with the route to Paris wide open.

The surrender monkey shit is also a meme because despite being cut off they fought for as long as they possibly could until they were literally out of options.

Nah, I heard jokes in school years before Iraq or even 9/11, the joke started in Vietnam when a lot of people thought we were going to clean up their mess.

This.
Read some history on the resistance and you'll see how much they helped us faggot.

they didn't do much desu

Pay not attention to the momo

kill yourself desu

the group that ultimately became what we know as "ISIS" has been around since the late 90s. 150,000 civilians is considerably light considering the length and intensity of the conflict and the coalition did achieve its objective which was to rid iraq of saddam and install a new government in its place.

>imblying al Qaeda was actually behind 9/11

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams user

Stupid memes for middle-school Americans.

> Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

In its earliest form it dates back to WW2, specifically 1944, when France resisted American occupation schemes and the meme of the French being "ungrateful" to America first appeared.

It only really took off in 1966 though. That's when French president De Gaulle left NATO command structure and removed American military bases from French territory. That was the first concerted France-bashing campaign in the US, and that's when the whole French cowards thing became a meme (but only in America).

Finally it went global in 2002 because of France's opposition to the invasion of Iraq. The France-bashing got to a whole new level, and "cheese eating surrender monkeys" was forced into an internet meme.

ISIS leadership is made of Sunnis who went into resistance after America put Shia religious extremists in charge of Iraq.

>the coalition did achieve its objective which was to rid iraq of saddam and install a new government in its place
Was plunging Iraq into 13 years of civil war (so far) and destroying the Middle East to hand it to the worst Islamic fanatics the world has ever seen who are now successfully spreading the war into Western countries part of your brilliant plan as well?

People who seriously still defend the Iraq War in 2016 need to remove themselves from the gene pool asap.

Well besides GB no country joined the american cheese tour.
So why didnt the amerifats hated the other more civilized countries in the eu as well?

YOU

FORGOT

POLAND

Because it doesn't work when you mock everyone. That's just bullying 101. You have to pick on one country and pretend they're the only ones against it, and since most Americans already disliked France and associated it with cowardice and faggotry it was perfect. It's the perfect way of silencing all opposition. As soon as someone voices any opposition to the war: "what are you a French surrender monkey? wee wee voolayvoo cooshay avec moa oh la la". And thus nobody wants to even debate the war from fear of being associated with the cowardly French.

>to the worst Islamic fanatics the world has ever seen
Not even fucking close. ISIS is barely a blip on the fucking radar compared to medieval Islam.

It's a lot worse than medieval Islam, which actually had mature people making pragmatic choices because they had something to lose.

>classic memes are forgotten day by day
>champions of liberty and intellect shoulder the burden of reminding us

Thank you

France is UNSC permanent member and vetoed the US request for war (which forced them to fight it illegally)
China and Russia did it too, but France is supposed to be an US ally so it pissed them off

>which forced them to fight it illegally
>implying there is such thing as an illegal war
>implying the UN even has jurisdiction to call a war illegal

It literally does.

It literally does not. It has the jurisdiction to enforce the Geneva Conventions and that's about it. It has no extraterritorial jurisdiction above this.

Wars are illegal if they don't follow a UN resolution.

Illegality implies intent to enforce legality. The UN enforced nothing and could not and cannot enforce such legality. They don't have the capability or the jurisdiction to enforce or create said law over national entities. Calling the Iraq War illegal because of the UN is like saying marijuana is illegal in Amsterdam because it's illegal in Britain.

>implying there is such thing as an illegal war
Just fuck off.

t. Frog

No it doesn't. Just because it can't prevent it doesn't make it legal.

By that logic all wars are illegal, since I doubt the invaded country consents to it

>Didn't enforce
>didn't dispute
>didn't do fucking anything
Because it's not fucking illegal because they don't have the fucking jurisdiction to enforce it.

They're legal if they follow a UN resolution.

Jurisdiction doesn't imply capacity to enforce. If you murder someone in the woods where police can't do anything about it, that doesn't make it legal.

>no law in said jurisdiction against the action
>instead the opposite is true
>the action is illegal in said jurisdiction because it's illegal in the neighboring jurisdiction
That's not how it works and you know it.

>I'm going to invade you
>but that's illegal
>no it isn't
>yeah it is
>why
>cause I say so
L m a o

I believe the myth originated after WW2. French military history is rather successful, but they really fucked up in WW2 aka the only European war Americans remember.

And who watches the watchmen?

USA are voluntary members of UN, therefore are obliged to follow UN rules.

What are you talking about? The US and Iraq are both UN members. It's not a neighbouring jurisdiction.

The UN says so.

>I believe the myth originated after WW2.
Wrong.

It originated later when America became a superpower but France wanted to retain its independence, which the Americans didn't like.

Who the fuck is the UN, to determine which wars are legal and which aren't?

A supranational organisation that the US as well as almost every other country in the world is a member of and recognises as legitimate.

I don't. And I doubt that that fact is small solace to those that die in their "sanctioned" wars

You have no authority on the subject. Your government does.

Nether I nor my parents, grandparents and fellow countrymen have ever been asked for our opinion

And neither was my dog. Which is completely irrelevant since UN members are countries, not people, and these rules relate to the actions of countries, not people (or dogs).

it must be awful to live in country without democracy and free elections.

If countries don't support the will of the people, what use are they?

That's between you and your country, it's not up to the UN.

I'm pretty sure the Iraqi people were also getting their country invaded and destroyed.

Frankly, this is the single biggest flaw of the UN, and 21st century diplomacy in general.

>great, now we have everyone represented
>less than 50% of member states are democratic
>you can't stop that dictator from slaughtering his own people, that would be a gross violation of their sovereignty

were also against*

What does democracy have to do with anything? The UN represents states, not people.

>you can't stop that dictator from slaughtering his own people, that would be a gross violation of their sovereignty
Except you can, you make a resolution. And I sure hope you're not referring to Saddam Hussein.

and 1059 plane losses for the Luftwaffe (Battle of Britain was 1052 in 4 months. source one of the many, many books called 'The Battle of Britain')