Previous Pankoman Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.
>Dom4 Inspector This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database. larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
So, Summod soon will be tackling LA (well, technically it's already started to) and there's a number of issues with the era.
First and foremost is Ragha, who have better fire mages than Abysia, better seraphs than Cealum, and have ridiculous sacreds. Voice opions, ideas, etc.
To get things going, in terms of the sacreds, it's possible to make getting back the rider cost gold.
Angel Thompson
You could make the post-death gryphon rider have worse stats and equipment, to represent how they're poorly trained squires who just got on the riderless gryphon.
Andrew Ross
They already lose all xp when they get a new rider to represent this.
Costing gold to get a new rider would be good, it would mean you at least get something for "killing" a bunch of their sacreds even though they come right back after the battle.
Jackson Jenkins
Why not just make all of their shit more expensive than the abysia/caelum etc equivalents? Right now the airya seraph and turan sorceror are not only better than their equivalents, they're also substantially cheaper. A mixed-arms nation should pay more than the specialist nations, and somehow Ragha pays the same or less.
Gryphon Riders already have exploss.
Cooper Jones
Does Ulm have superior robot waifus?
Landon Thompson
Just increasing costs is an option, and will likely be done to some extent regardless of other measures.
That runs counter to the base philosophy of the immortals, that the army was always 1,000 ellite soldiers strong due to having 10,000 non-immortals fighting allongside it, then the best of those being promoted into the immortals to replace losses.
Parker Barnes
Ragha is literally a mary-sue nation.
Jaxon Johnson
Ragha is perfectly balanced fuck off mate.
Wyatt Gomez
t. gryphon fucker
Levi Morris
>Everyone is off playing Stellaris edition
Damn, Stellaris is such a disappointment. It's a decent framework and maybe with three years of patches and $250 of DLC it'll even be great (and knowing Paradox that DLC flood will certainly come), but right now it's so fucking broken, boring and lacking in basic features that I can't bear playing it anymore . At least if the AI was capable of putting up a fight it would be somewhat interesting, but it isn't. I guess multiplayer might save it, but Paradox and multiplayer have never been a winning combination.
Parker Bailey
illfraud confirmed posting in /domg/
Ragha is possibly the worst designed nation in the game at this point, apart from possibly therodos.
Luke Morales
You could give each gryphon rider a given number of extra lives, like 4 or 5, which would be restored for gold whenever they're at a fort.
Brayden James
No, no we couldn't, uness you've managed to figure out how to do it in mod code
Adam Watson
No that's Arco
Jose Ross
Let's just have Summod rewrite the game lore so MA Ermor and Lemuria never happened
Matthew Morales
Dropping the Seraph and Sorcerer to a & f paths by 1 would be 100% appropriate.
I also don't think it would would be going too far to remove the Blood and Astral (except on a ~25% random). Its not like any era of Caelum has S access as a notable enough feature for it to carry onto a successor state, and Abyssian blood access is associated with the smouldercone Warlock line.
You maybe could make ~everything~ run off coldrec/heatrec. Even the basic infantry. That might not really end up mattering, though, since most people just go Heat anywat.
Levi Morales
Couldn't you copy the units several times, changing the firstshape/woundedshape target, until the last one just dies?
Luke Howard
Make the griffon shape firstshape into a secondary ridershape instead of the regular rider shape. e.g.,
>which would be restored for gold whenever they're at a fort. I can do the limitted lives thing, yeah, but the ressetting at a fort?
Jose Campbell
I guess keep the B on the Karapan & Dastur (no random), since it's thematic and with only B1 it's not very tempting to try to use it.
Aaron Myers
I didn't suggest that part...
Personally, I don't like it, but it could maybe be done with event coding & a ritual spell to reset the 'lives' of (up to) a certain number of Zhayedan.
Ian Russell
How were you planing on doing the goldcost with unlimited lives?
Parker Lee
I guess you'd have a research 0 ritual that sets the event code, then always-fire events that transform late-stage Zhayedan into early-stage ones, then an event to reset the event code in that province.
Personally, I think just having 5 lives is plenty.
Isaiah Harris
Immortal (recruited) -secondshape-> Griffon -firstshape-> Griffon with -50 gold generated per turn -firshape->Immortal (recruited)
Xavier Green
So, how much do you wish that there were commands for things like limited lives rather than using multiple secondshapes, woundedshapes and so on?
Cooper Sanders
A video game.
Jackson Thompson
Hey you guysss! New turn!
Luke Hughes
Sorry for the Stale folks, that's why you should put your turn in before you take any sleeping medication. Literally played the turn and just didn't send it.
Luke Gomez
sounds like something a loser would like.
Joseph Johnson
That's why it only applies to the people who aren't here right now.
Jaxon Jones
How do I make a commander assume a shape only in combat?
Matthew Ross
There's a change shape command, it takes up a scripting slot.
Easton Fisher
poison golems in summod do this via growhp commands. Look at the .dm file.
Gabriel Reed
Growhp less than the normal hp, or shrinkhp greater than the max possible, it's used in summod as said.
Landon Howard
Should I even bother? This game needs a new patch or something so that there's stuff to talk about.
Nicholas Hughes
don't die, again
David Thomas
user casts twiceborn.
Jason Perry
Guess I can't be too surprised that we can't get the last 4 teams when we can't even seem to keep the thread alive.
Ethan Ramirez
>gigantic disciples game with premade teams >surprised that it's taking forever to start lel
Robert Campbell
Mictlan, you may want to call your local animal control, it looks like you have a bat infestaton.
Evan Walker
Can someone explain the communion calculator? What does extra gems used mean? Are those gems use to cast the spell?
Easton Kelly
Honestly I'm surprised that the first 6 teams filled so quickly, and then there's been 0 interest. Was expecting more of a steady trickle (though I'm not surprised it hasn't filled yet). Another disciple game starting up at the same time likely didn't help either.
Zachary Davis
From what I can see Xibalba appears to pretty much own the entire West rim of the map, from the very north all the way down to where Mictlan is.
Isaac Ortiz
Basically, can an A2 Arch Theurg, with four slaves, use a gem to cast Fog Warriors?
Jaxson Jackson
No. There's some weird fuckery going on with communions that prevents gem spending above the masters base path level unless you meet the path requirement of the spell you are trying to cast. An A2 caster can't spend more than 2 air gems, so fog warriors doesn't work.
Ayden Howard
But you'd be good with 8 slaves, right? (and 3 gems ofc)
Cooper Martinez
Yes, eight slaves would work since the arch theurgs would be A5 at that point.
David Barnes
RIP Mictlan, the first victim of the bats.
Blake Morgan
hinnom, I suggest you leave the waters at once, UW jewery is my domain
Nathan Reyes
>Can someone explain the communion calculator? What part did you want explaining?
>What does extra gems used mean? Are those gems use to cast the spell? Extra gems are gems used above the base cost of the spell.
For an A4 mage casting fog warriors, you need to spend a total of 4 gems (3 for the spell, 1 extra).
Unfortunately communions don't work well with extra gems, as explained. It's not a bug in the calculator, the game just works oddly.
David Scott
I AM SORRY FOR THE WOLVES, IF YOU NEED WOLF REPELLENT JUST ASK.
ALSO WHOEVER TURNED OFF THE SUN, WELL DONE, BUT YOU FORGOT TO TURN OFF THE WARMNESS AS WELL.
Samuel Turner
I'm guessing that sum1won isn't in-thread anymore, but if look at other flying sacreds and other sacred cavalry then even getting 3 or 4 lives for 120g is a hell of a deal.
Nathaniel Torres
I turned off the sun and my domain, the TRUE domain, also turns off the warmth.
Not that it matters because we're gonna exterminate you anyway. The only place Vans should live is in Vanheim!
Brody Gonzalez
Not sure he was in thread to start with, but the issue is more in terms of how it feels, and as having about 30 events to recoup lives in a fort doesn't help the whole event budget, and feels konda arbitrary, I'm personally not thrilled by that as a solution.
However, I asked because the objective isn't to get the solution that I like the most, it's to find the best mechanical and lore wise solution for domg and the wider community.
An idea would be redoing the entire nation along the lines that Sum1won has done Pythium and its cults, so not based just on heat scales but in terms of which Spahbad is crowned as emperor at the time.
Owen Long
I'M GIANTS NOT ELVES YOU ELVISH TWAT.
Samuel Bell
Oh, I meant to discard the weird fort-regen thing and just cap them at 4 respawns.
I thought about the Pythium method, too. But afaik he's not ready to commit to such major changes in what is ostensibly a balance mod. It'd be a good companion mod, though.
Daniel James
Should I start another game?
Ryder Ortiz
50% lemon, 50% lime.
Luke Hughes
Whoops I need to add more. Did you want orange instead?
Isaiah Perez
Cactus snake/10
Christian Young
Neato
Isaiah Cruz
If you're looking to play another game, you should consider joining my blitzserver.net game. blitzserver.net/matches/view/358 I've never played on this map, and wanted to check it out. Ideally, this game is for 7-14 intermediate players. The way you join a game on blitzserver is the same as a regular blitz, but instead of an ip you put blitzserver.net, and the port that's listed on the game page (which sometimes changes).
Josiah Bailey
Yomi I'd like to chat if you have some time. Here is my steam page
I'll be on the train for about 7 hours so that is a decent time to chat via steam chat. I can't access the group chat so just add me.
Levi Jenkins
Mictlan is infested with a desire to enslave their populace and sow unrest, and I am just cleaning up the mess caused by terrible leaders pursuing their own agenda.
I do am not the only person whom holds position on the western side of the map. Abysia, Mictlan, C'tis, all four of us own land close to the western border of this Great Map. Sadly, Mictlan was causing unrest and destruction in their wake, destroying the income of their provinces with constant fighting and enslavement. I was needed to bring order back to their lands. The Abysian Nights up north are trying to spread their horrible religion of Death, Unrest, Slothful living, and the Drain of stifled ingenuity and discovery. Lanka will will be helping me in the endeavor of ridding that Religion of evil from the Great Land of Oeridia. Their willingness to work to right the wrongs perpetrated by terrible politicians is commendable.
Blake Kelly
joined
Luis Smith
I've come into the game, seeking not victory (that would be just absurd) but to stress test moggyserver.
Let's have some fun shall we?
William Edwards
But seriously, what's up with Abysia's Dominion? Is this the Bane Venom Meme again?
Bentley Torres
Seems so. Not sure about everyone else, but I would rather that not spread across the world. Also, Good Afternoon, C'tis, Ulm, Caelum! It's going to be great finally having neighbors to converse with that don't monkey around(It's a Lanka joke! I crack me up.), or try to spread a deadly dominion.
Brandon Sanders
Play your turns
Luis Butler
Please don't die again.
Camden Bailey
It's a sacrifice for Illwinter
Jayden Carter
So what's the best current space 4x? GalCiv2? Please no Distant Worlds or Aurora.
Jonathan Wright
Whats the best way to expand as YOMI? Ko Oni spam?
Christopher Stewart
It's hard to call one "best" since noe of them are perfect and they all do different things better.
It's somewhere between Master of Orion 2, Sword of the Stars 1, Distant Worlds, Aurora, or I guess Galactic Civilizations 2, but I personally don't like that last one as much. It all depends on what you're looking for in a game and how much autism you can tolerate.
Nolan Ward
I think Star Ruler deserves a shout out, even if the copious small issues make it pretty much unplayable.
Josiah Harris
There are a lot of "good if you like them but not great" space 4x games. I personally still like Stars! a lot, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's the best.
Matthew Butler
I'm not in that game, but Sans Yomi is Malakal.
Anthony Gray
I think only one team didnt join both, all of the others are in both. Just wait, we can do it.
Lucas Collins
It's more that for a long time I loved the shit out of SR and figured it was the best 4x space game. Eventually I got sick of the horrible ship AI and now I'm waiting for a game that comes close to offering what SR offered, without the broken aspect.
Anthony Ward
>Stars! >tfw no mineral packet bombing in other games >tfw no game I know used a similar habitat system >tfw no remote terraforming of enemy planets in other games Stars! was great, but the learning curve was Dominions-tier.
Levi Torres
Added you.
Literally WHO?
Adam Hill
;)
daily reminder that malakal is a girl
Benjamin Fisher
Daily reminder that Malakal is a faggot responsible for postponement of VirginDisciples.
Blake Stewart
user! Girls are for loving, not for bullying.
Isaac Stewart
>Malakal The one from RPG codex?
Matthew Phillips
Hey, SansMeme Helheim about? Care to chat? If so add me on steam
Unlike most of the people here, I'm not the stherotyipical guy. I respect girls playing videogames, since playing games shouldn't be restricted to men.
Would you want to play some blitzes with me? add me. Steam name: xXDarkR4zorXx
Wyatt Cox
Pan was right.
Alexander Rivera
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Tyler Bell
Aka-oni or Ao-oni work better since they're a bit tougher