Is phantom still shit? I heard he got a buff recently
Levi Perez
As far as I'm concerned it was an overall nerf.
His cooldown is longer now if you only go stealthy for a short duration. Also anyone with a device nearby can tell you're there because your armor now has EMP. It's like an extra way for the enemy to spot you.
Carter Bailey
yeah, though I've seen a few great phantoms floating around. Most are retarded and run full tilt straight at you with a katana.
That's literally half of phantoms problem. The players who play him.
Jonathan Smith
oh well.
see you guys in overwatch
Nathaniel Rodriguez
good, go and stay go shitterbee
Christian Nelson
You won't see me in that shitpile. Enjoy your titanfall 2.0
Bentley Brown
>some high lvl says OW is better >ask why >"its not easy like dis gem"
wew lad
Isaac Barnes
...
Lucas Reed
the autism team going to lose another cup tomorrow
oh wait...
Jackson Morgan
every time
Sebastian Ross
was the high level at least good?
Everytime I see someone mention OW they're shit.
Benjamin Rogers
he was atleast topscoring, but everyone in the game was around lvl 10s at best
Easton Phillips
i'm level 109 and i really like overwatch because of the high skill ceiling and engaging gameplay
Logan Powell
lol
Zachary Torres
shitty lead loadouts every single time, transmute loadouts - all trash .... end my suffering. How come Proxyfags always end up with the highest score
Brayden Collins
>How come Proxyfags always end up with the highest score because they're playing best girl obviously
Luis Robinson
>Proxyfags with high score I'm not sure what game you're playing. They consistently go negative KD and always have about half my score. Even in min 20 servers.
Are you just bad?
Matthew Wright
more like especially in min 20 servers
Henry Price
Looks like people tend to run into her mines quite often, some Proxyfag killed 5 people with the mine, and proceeded to score tripple kills quite often the same way >inb4 that's what she does that's pretty much the moment I've stopped pretending my performance mattered during the match.
Elijah Walker
Definitely. Proxy tactics get stopped hard there. That's true, mines are great ways to farm retards without having to use any skill. I haven't died to a mine in god knows how long unless it's from a Proxy who suicides herself to kill just me, which still doesn't happen often because it's a very slow process that only works if you're not looking.
Jayden Nguyen
It was given a fair buff recently. Throwing a mine is a lot faster now.
Ethan Nguyen
>Playing games designed to let bad players make kills. If I can't carry a team of shits by being a turbonerd, the game is shit and not worth playing.
Caleb Cook
>implying you can carry in db by being a turbonerd
Lincoln Thompson
You can though. Your individual skill level can make a huge difference in Dirty Bomb. You can solo carry very hard in DB. You can't solo carry in Overwatch that often, that's why it's a harder game. There's more hard counters and focus on teamplay.
Christopher Phillips
>that's why it's a harder game
Hardcounters and making barriers to cap skill doesn't make it a harder game. It's very easy to master every character and track headshots since the game is so shallow and slow. The rock paper scissors balancing makes it harder to carry unless the other team decides to not hard counter you.
Caleb Brown
It's harder as a solo player.
Jason Phillips
The hard counters are inherently bad though. It's hard to balance a game where everybody doesn't start out the same and Dirty Bomb has done it incredibly well. There are no hard counters in DB, there are only playstyles and mercs suited to those playstyles. Literally merc, while being unique and equipped to handle different scenarios can be boiled down to their three characteristics; range, speed, objective.
Wanna know why Fragger is considered the best? He gets three of the highest damage repeating weapons in the game and then a mininuke on a 15 second cooldown. He is however slow as fuck and has no direct utility in regards to objective maintenance. This kind of balance does not exist in Overwatch because of the fuck-retarded rock, paper, scissors that mentioned.
Now it's fine to say OW is harder, because it is, in a sense, but the difficulty of that game only serves to restrict people who would crush everybody else if the shitty system didn't exist. In actual fact OW is a much easier game for the majority of the community because people are bad at video games. That's not balance, that's pandering bullshit and you may as well go play CoD.
Ayden Carter
>Overwatch >Hardcounters
Like any class based FPS game, people will run with the most optimized rollouts. In OW's case, it's Dubstep Nigger, Angel Slut, Winston, Winston, McCree, Tracer/Another McCree.
Zachary Davis
I understand all of what you're saying and agree, I'm just saying it's harder, not a better game, not a well rounded game, just harder.
I personally do not enjoy it much. It's fun here and there, and the characters and lore is fun, but I like Dirty Bomb more in every way, including character designs.
Noah Rogers
Even with the hard counters I don't consider Overwatch harder. I can rack up way more killstreaks with ease until a hardcounter gets an ult.
Someone like Bastion or Junkrat can easily carry in pugs because no one will go out of their way to hardcounter them. There are a lot of other classes that are really easy to use and just run train on newbies alone like Widowmaker or if you're paired together.
As long as the other team doesn't stack their ultimates or actually have decent synergy, it was fairly easy to destroy pugs in the beta. The same could be said about DB, if the other team is actually aware and has a balanced team it's pretty hard to break their defense or stop their from attacking. The problem is both games have a bunch of people who just want to play their favorite characters and don't care if they're not helping the team.
DB should track assists. I'm curious to see how many people who think they're carrying are just finishing their plate when everyone else is distracting and pestering the opponents. I know for a fact a lot of my kills are people who are only 50-80% health.
Luis Sanchez
I wish it would track it too. I know I'm good close to mid range duels and capitalizing on my teammate's distractions. I'm very bad mid to long range fights though. I have trouble seeing opponents far away and tracking them that way. Feels like everyone else is better than I am at it.
So I feel like I'm doing all the killing, the objectives and all the distracting on maps like Underground, Terminal and Bridge, but on maps like Chapel, Trainyard and Dome, I feel like I spend most of the game flanking, shooting distracted enemies in the back and not really making good pushes. I kill a lot, but nothing gets done.
Isaac Cruz
Sometimes I like sneak up to a chokepoint and just let loose on the side while my team is fighting the other team. Sometimes I get all the kills and other times I get shit even when I'm getting those sweet headshot sounds.
Nicholas Hill
An easy fix for Chapel is to learn the various jumps. Namely the two to get into the attacker spawn in the beginning as defender and the one to get into the defender spawn as attacker towards the end of the EV push.
Eli Thompson
>all this hitscan It's like playing dirty bomb except much more shit
Matthew Anderson
>proxy won the event and got raped in the eyesocket as a result >stoker is fine and dandy Brilliant.
Brandon Phillips
>Fletcher got "nerfed"
Kayden Harris
I mean literally skullfucked.
Asher Sullivan
...
Xavier Ward
Giving Stoker more battle damage would only make him a bigger badass.
Kevin Rodriguez
cute
Isaiah Peterson
Post your mains and primary card for your main. Autism post explaining why is not required.
Phoenix is mine. You'd think I like him for self-revive, but his true strength is his speed and his quick and instant self-heals. You can bounce up and around enemies for a long time and then you can just inject yourself with some health to stay in combat. It's non-stop action experience with Phoenix and usually gets my heart pounding in the most heated situations. He may not be a good team healer like Sawbonez or Aura, but he's the most fun merc.
Regarding the card KE81 Hochfir >not the best gun, but if you have good tracking, it's pretty effective. problems arise in 1v1 when other good tracker tracks your head with higher damage weapon Selbstadt >best pistol. Beckhill knife >best melee weapon next to katana. good for finishing low health players up-close Cool (Gen 1) >not very useful as I don't like stationary mounted guns. Untrackable (Gen 2) >Only adds to the flanking gameplay I do, but I like the obsidian skin. If I ever get gen 2 KE81 cobalt then I might start using that over this one Extra supplies and potent packs >The salt and pepper of this card. You can keep injecting yourself with health with short cooldowns and it's great. You can really extend your life for long periods of time. Best perk combo Phoenix could get.
You always want get up more than anything, but I usually play a flanker as Phoenix with no other teammates around me, so it would be kinda wasted on me. If I wanted to play a healer I would play the AOE healer, the offense/tank healer or the revive specialist.
Phantom is pretty ok too, but he's slightly slower and his shield's cooldown is way too long and you have to constantly find healing stations or medpacks like any other merc. This breaks the action.
Isaiah Howard
>maining
Joshua Brown
case-a-day may is great, got nothing but silvers and golds so far
Jeremiah Wood
Maining does not mean I play exclusively. Maining means it's my favorite and spend the most time playing as. Back to /owg/ with you
Austin Perez
>still can't buy cases in bulk
Carter Wilson
>every time someone has the /dbg/ tag in my game they're either a squeaker on mic, bad or both
Ian Hughes
>Gives ammo check >solid primary M4, check >Mechanic when team doesn't fucking know how to defuse c4 or repair check >explodydendron to wipe teams check >looter to sustain in combat when no medics are around check >Swiss check
Nolan Barnes
I also enjoy this card.
Nicholas Rodriguez
The only one I've seen is Dixu
Lucas Jenkins
Enjoy paying for a worst game!
Benjamin Robinson
The eye in the neck is outstanding! No more >combat sapper with a smile
Zachary Howard
I went between Stoker and Arty for months, but the past 6 weeks I've loved Thunder. The MK46 feels amazing. It's my highest accuracy primary outside of snipers and it has my highest KPM. His HP, his LMG and his ability allow me to be constantly aggressive. Much like how you play Phoenix, Thunder is a non-stop bum rush of action for me. I get to bully Fletcher, duel with snipers without fear, trap fast mercs in faux tar pits, out muscle Fragger, and just generally annoy the shit out of the enemy team with flash bangs.
I've been incredibly happy with the update of him. It feels like I'm casting a slow mo spell on the people I concuss. Seeing the faster mercs panic as they try to run but barely make it a few feet is amazing. I also like to use the Timik and Stark with him, but the MK46 is more satisfying and has better killing potential when multiple people are slowed. After the buff to Tuff, MA42 is even more amazing.
My only real issue with him is now Support/Game Mode missions become a bitch. At least when I played Arty and Stoker I could give out ammo and destroy EVs/generators, finishing my missions and playing my favorites at the same time.
Matthew Collins
SM41 desperate fag here Just a failed another weekly gold trade up More news on the next fail next week
Michael Turner
Keep at it, I still have my gold crown one for you reserved.
Aiden Ortiz
I'm glad sm41 didn't change between 1 & 2 though I still have hope 2 more and i can try getting it cobalt
Ryder Fisher
Gaspar Ebola is best.
Brody Ramirez
>weed pattern on the nigger dank
Connor Edwards
When Bush plants a turret - does it disappear from his back? When Aura plants station - does it disappear of her hip?
I played this game for 200 hours but somehow never paid attention.
Luke Roberts
no, the models are static
Liam Thomas
From what i saw, no it doesn't It could be a nice addition, and should inform people around on Cooldowns
Robert Edwards
PLENTY OF FRUIT
Angel Sullivan
Turret is a large part of Bush's model and silhouette. Removing it would mess up recognizability. And reduce his hitbox.
Though is Bush's turret-backpack even part of hitbox? Can you kill Bush by firing at turret from the side so it goes through turret side-to-side and doesn't hit body?
Josiah Bell
what kind of promotion is that from? never seen it before, looks pretty good
Brayden Cox
Cuntainment War
Hunter Cox
Containment War event when Stoker got released.
Jace Bell
alright, was probably during the half year break i took a while ago
Juan Kelly
I want to do a cobalt trade in, but i´m not sure for which merc, suggestions? Mercs i don´t want/need cobalts for: >Fragger >Bombchimp >Nader >Phantom >Redeye >Vaseline >Aimee >Proxy >Rhino
Charles Hernandez
Do one for Bushwanker. He's the best character in game :3
Lucas Green
>free multikill every 15 seconds >implying thunder isnt the ultimate pubstar shitter crutch
Caleb Mitchell
I agree. My only gripe with him is that they made his grenade fuse even shorter last update. It's really hard to concuss people if not thrown directly at them because there is not enough airtime to bounce the nade off something.
Connor Harris
Did you hurt your wrist?
Easton Stewart
Why are you trading away best Kira?
Jeremiah Nelson
i don´t play him that often. he´s ok, but meh
David Thomas
That's not how you spell PDP redeye
Brody Fisher
No Weebstick, and i already got a good one in ReV
Luke Wood
Where do you guys think thunder is from? I think he is from Lithuania.
Adrian Perez
>weebstick But this is the card for serious play, no gen 1 card is better that new S81
Camden Rogers
Trade up that shitty sparks instead of best kira
John Fisher
You can kill fragger by shooting his big ass backpack.
Josiah Jones
2 things, i really really do like the caulden and it´s in shard, which i don´t like that much on the Stark why is that a shit spark, i now that i doens´t have quickcharge, but potent packs+extra supplies help a lot to survive
Daniel Rogers
>why is that a shit spark, i now that i doens´t have quickcharge, but potent packs+extra supplies help a lot to survive because it's not 383
Jose Hughes
Ukraine
Adrian Allen
Sparks' main job is reviving, that card has no get up or quick charge. And 4 medpacks is plenty to heal yourself twice to full health.
Gavin Morgan
Finland
Carter Diaz
muh reddit meta, also quickcharge got nerfed to 10%
Joseph Thomas
get up wasn't
Aaron Watson
can´t argue with that
Liam Morris
>using a shit loadout just because it's shiny
William Ross
back on topic, any serious suggestions for mercs which i can do the trade up for?
James Jones
The mercs you play the most. With gen2 cards, the amount of shit you can get is severely reduced.
David Martinez
sparks
Jeremiah Ross
currently: >Phoenix, already got good 2 kek cards >Thunder: best Stark in Gold and best Mk46 in Cobalt >Bombchimp: Bl32 in Cobalt and A31 in ReV >Sparks: 383 in silver and the cobalt everyone got mad about
Gavin Rivera
forgot Skybro too afraid to get aTolen shitter card
Matthew Ortiz
>too afraid to get aTolen shitter card Can't be worse than what you have
Lucas Howard
what the hell is it? hello?
Nathaniel Hill
You were votekicked recently
Leo Cooper
If you get kicked, you'll get banned for something like 3-5 minutes, so you can't just rejoin.