/dsg/- Dark/Demon's souls general

kek
Meant to say He. But okay

Yes. You throw it into the trash.

Rate my str/fai /dsg/

what

What are we looking at?

Look closely, inside the circles.

what's the faith for?

>people level vig
absolutely disgusting, you're right
>>ascetics
as long as they are not incentives to have non-respawning enemies drop unique items, it's fine. just higher ng and boss respawn
>>invading hollow players
that is quite shit, needing to waste materials to not get invaded
>>invading cleared areas
sure
>>powerstancing
was either broken or shitty for most combos. dual weapons are an ok replacement, we just need more of them
>>offhand moveset
>2016
>not blocking with a dagger
>>hub physically connected to other areas
it is, just not in your timeline :^)
>>sequence breaking
no such thing in ds2
>>arenas
arenas are ok, tying unique rewards to them is not. the gazebo was pretty much perfect, except being unable to change spells between matches
>>pvp auras when ranking up
matter of taste really
>>pvp sin and cracked blue eye orbs
or blue orbs. or even sin for that matter. wtf from?
>>new riposte and backstab animations
ds2 parry ripostes were retarded
>>rat covenant
>>dragon covenant
no comment, they just ought to be in

The health bar has a pixel missing

I'm autistic like him so that stuff bugs me too

>physically interacting with digital media
So the age of downloadable pizza is finally upon us; about fucking time.
Now, to fulfill the prophecy and finally download that car.

>Invade as Watchdog
>Host + White
>White is in full Darkwraith + Dark Sword
>But using a shield
>canned_laughter.wav
>Despite my Bastard Sword's 2HR1s only hitting him for about 150, which barely moves his HP, still bring him down to near-nothing three times
>Finally gives up and just hauls ass away
>Figure he's maybe the host wearing Untrue White
>Finally turn to the human player, who's been biting my heels the entire time
>Kill him easily because he's fat rolling
>It was the host afterall

Wow. That fucking """Darkwraith""" must be the single worst phantom I've ever seen.

Oh fuck it cut off
Lightning blade on the fugs

Posting this here because retards in the other thread are spreading bad info without testing shit.

I literally wasted respecs testing this shit.

If you're not going to listen or provide anything to backup your claims, then stop spreading bullshit info.

If refined gives at least c/c scaling, the points you would have spent into luck for a hollow build are less efficient than overcapping str/dex and just using refined. Not to mention you're not lucked in offhand infusions and you get a little bit extra when two-handing as well.

Unless you're specifically utilizing the bleed/poison aspect of hollow builds, or are using anri's/mangrubs staff, then there's no reason to go hollow.

I'm not saying you should go 50/50, but if you're going to go 40/40/30 and expect to get super quality, you're wasting your points since refined will always be better in terms of damage at similar investments.

what are those red glowing lights in the beginning?

OOOH ZOOM in

what is dat tho

>having negative vigor

That host could've just sat back and watch his gank squad gangbang you. What a good guy to jump in the fight with them.

>a pixel
It literally has multiple lines through it.

You have good eyesight

Shad is a real person who could be literally put into the trash (and should be)

>host is dead
>dark sword crest shield artorias keeps trying
Fucking pottery.

I'd guess it's where the image used for the health bar repeats.

>no posts for over a minute
>tell funny greentext story
>suddenly buried by 8 posts

I hate you guys.

This was posted in the last thread

>never liked katanas
>tried blacksteel and alonne's in 2
>loved them
>all katanas in 3 have the same generic moveset that made me dislike the others

Fine which one is the " funny" gt one you posted

You seriously hadn't noticed it before?
The health bar has had those lines in it in every dark souls game.

Ranking of the SOULS games based on what they have or don’t have compared to the other titles
Das3 > Das1 > Des > Das2

Das3
Pros:
>sword arts
>best bosses
>bosses with two phases
>boss music changes with the phases
>blood splatter
>offers different interpretations to the lore
>DLC’s will only make it better

Cons:
>worst poise
>worst covenants
>able to summon people at any level with a password

Dark Souls
Pros:
>best characters
>best music
>best poise
>best covenants
>best DLC (as of now)

Cons:
>need a mod to play properly
>too many bosses that turn into normal enemies
>worst aesthetic

Demon’s Souls
Pros:
>best aesthetic
>best enemies
>best level design

Cons:
>30 fps
>can only be played on a 7th gen console
>world tendency

Das2
Pros:
>power stance and offhand moveset
>best NG+
>bonfire ascetics
Cons:
>worst control
>worst bosses
>worst level design
>enemies with tracking
>charged for a complete edition with separate servers
>weapons degrade faster when played at 60 fps
>SOUL MEMORY

I liked the fact that you could be invaded in areas after a boss, but I guess that's down to taste.

There was no "sequence breaking" in DaS, either: you had to go to AL after ringing the two bells, so there's as much, if not more in DaS2 if we're still calling it that.

Full blue orb should be in, though: it's a joke at this point.

this?

I think I disagree with almost every one of your points on every game.

Yes.

I feel like 20/20 flame buff might be better

>Adds 82 * (Spell Buff/100) fire damage to weapon. 90s
1.43 * 82 = 117 fire AR for 90s
>Adds 0.96 * (Spell Buff) lightning damage. 60s
142 * .96 = 136 lightning AR for 60s

eh
consider the lothric knight GS btw, already has innate lightning damage

It shows you where the cops spawned.

Overconfidence in a 4v1 or 3v1 is the downfall of many hosts.

Half of the fun in these situations is seeing the phantoms going into a blind rage after you kill the host, desperately still trying to hit/kill you after it's already pointless.

then you're dumb

>still no lute weapon
WHAT THE FUCK?

That won't be seeing the light of day, but it's good for the flavour text, at least.

Anyone know where I can clearly hear the sound effect the Sunlight Spear miracle makes in DS1? All the videos on YouTube of people casting the spell either have loud dubstep or someone doing stupid commentary so I can't hear it properly.

...

>resin bundles give 120 AR for 7 seconds with no stat investment

Aggro mod is coming along nicely.

You really are counting
>bosses with two phases
>boss music changes with the phases
>blood splatter
>offers different interpretations to the lore
>DLC’s will only make it better
as things that matter for the game.
Like most of that is inconsequential shit and the DLCs is literally impossible for you to know.

I don't spend a lot of time staring closely at my hp bar, no

>using bundles
>using resins

Might as well pull out a dark sword with offhand estoc while you're at it

sequence breaking is doing things outside the designated path. in dark souls 1 you could immediately go to darkroot, kill sif, back to firelink, kill 4 kings. the difficulty of doing such a thing so early at any build shows it's not what you're supposed to do. dark souls 2 on the other hand has no designated path before the shrine (every path has similar difficult) and is completely linear after. there is no sequence breaking.

Post gladiators!

Also, is there an official poster for the event already? I've seen the SL50 +4 one and i made my build based on it. Are physical infusions allowed?

>Sunlight spear is a melee spell
Okay, did Gwyn jump up 200 feet and punched the dragons in the face with it? Didn't look like it in the DkS1 intro to be quite honest

yes, but if you don't have damage stats and go raw, I'd upgrade your weapon a bit less to give more of an advantage to people who levelled damage stats

tfw there will never be a perma gravelord mod for this game

>not paying attention to names
>needing to guess who the host is
jeez

I assume there was some miscommunication and the damage falloff is the opposite of what it should be. I feel like lightning spears should get stronger the further they travel due to picking up the energy in the air or some shit I don't know mang

Are the clutch rings bugged in PvP like other rings like Ring of Steel Protection, where it actually doesn't add much damage at all and the number in the stats is essentially false?

I wanted to do some ornstein cosplay in SL120 duels with a lightning clutch ring and I'm just wondering if it's worth it or not. Or if there is any case where a clutch ring IS useful, in PvP?

clearly if it's on the top then it has the best gameplay, which is what "sword arts" was supposed to imply

and the rest are valid, soundtrack as an important aspect

Not a bad idea. But im pretty set on the 50 str for swapping to Mornes if i feel like it and the Fugs base damage is hilariously good
I just killed some sprinting washing pole cunt with the weapon art simply because his only attack was the sprinting one
Bait and trade was his downfall

One thing i like about the armor set i have is that its spot on the 20 phys res

I'll tell you what I can do.
Make everything a Black Phantom

Gwyn was just so strong his lighting spears dealt immense damage even from long range.

mpql.net/tools/dark-souls-3/ has all the right data now

Just enter your level and see all your ranges

Clutch Rings, Steel Prot and Resist rings all have dramatically reduced effectiveness against players.

>wasting 22 levels just to get a duel charm to the face

It's not a bug, it's just one of many shitty mechanics from DaS2 that have been ported over.

>bugged
Oh you poor naive man.
>120
Never mind, just retarded.

>Wasting time invading when you will just run out of hitpoints and die
wew

Not really, weapon arts are just a way to make weapons even more generic, and giving things that weren't supposed to have special 2cool moves just a bland variation of it. They didn't even get the broken straight sword right by letting players use the wild hollow swing as a WA.

In fact your post implies DaS2 has the best gameplay as it has the specials, power stancing movesets and then full weapon moveset regardless of which hand the weapon is in.

A friendly reminder that SL90 is the best level to be at.

>Invading ranges: 81-119

>implying i don't just fling people off cliffs

>bows were shit in DaS1
>bows were good as fuck in das2, greatbows even more until they got nerfed
>bowblade was pure fun in BB
>so was moonlight GS
>bows are shit in 3, just like in das1 and moonlight is only decent

Fucking From.

Shit, forgot about Sif: time to turn in my card.
Doing 4 Kings is the equivalent of doing any of the Great Souls in DaS2 though, if you think about it: you get an important boss soul to open an end game area (admittedly, in DaS2 it's more like a mid-game area, but the principle's the same). Although bneing able to beat a Lord in DaS1 within an hour of starting is the definition of sequence breaking, so I guess you're right, although there's still more to do off the bat in DaS2, and disappointingly little in DaS3, the most linear of them all.

that's entirely subjective. the weapon arts just added more variety to weapons which was a great addition. they did not make the weapons "more generic".

and while powerstancing was great, the control and poise made the gameplay in Das2 one of the worst.

by control i mean movement and animations

>bows are shit in 3

are we playing the same game? Roll shoot is fucking amazing

What are some fun weapons to invade with?

They have to be a lot of fun

>dying when invading

this is literally the best bows have ever been, unless you only used them to cheese mobs with poison arrows

Well i'm going for a str based build, with the morningstar and the hammer-spear

I just hope not everyone ends up going for the same armor/weapons

Is that just a visual change?
Because I don't recall any black phantom enemy types in my playthroughs.

That's only on two bows (both short class), the rest are long bows which lack that ability as well as the running shot.

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>really like the rusted look of lorian's greatsword for a gladiator
>it does fire damage
fuck

>look at screenshots
>looks completely different to the icon
nvm

>But im pretty set on the 50 str for swapping to Mornes if i feel like it
in that case yeah I'd understand
when you said "str/faith build" I was like GEE I WONDER WHAT WEAPON HE'LL BE USING, but then was confused when you didn't have morne's

>hammer-spear
?

Yeah if you want to feel good about doing a tiny bit of damage.

Those quick bows are usable but jesus christ good luck killing anyone with how many arrows it takes

>tfw no bow blade
>no shooting people in the face for 600 damage from the other side of the map
>no speed shooting with actual good damage instead of the gay shortbow shit we have now
God, I miss Simon's Bowblade

I agree that the weapons arts are an awesome thing, but they just didn't put enough variety

There aren't enough unique arts (like the other user pointed out with the broken ss)

Hammer-spear is Yorshka's Spear.

Buffing FUGS makes it deal incredible amounts of damage. Ridiculous at sl80
I just two shotted someone.

Yorshka's Spear also happens to be the worst special weapon in the game

>buffing fugs
?

The way Black Phantom enemies worked in Dark Souls was just that they had a SpEffect buff that gave them 2x HP, 1.8x AR and 1.2x Def.

That buff still exists, so it's just a matter of forcing it onto them.

Well, to be completely honest, I am very wary of releasing it because it can affect the NPCs in another player's world.

>denying yourself an ability to oneshot sub 40 vig hosts with a greatsword

This is literally the only good thing about das3 bows.

I miss it too.
DaS2 bows actually HIT someone. i fucking HATE how people can just dodge arrows by fucking walking away. not even running. DaS2 bows actually hit people, you could actually catch rolls with them.

Only rolling/sprinting shots are decent.

>Invading

>Buffing FUGS makes it deal incredible amounts of damage.
maybe blessed weapon

war cry & blessed weapon are, as far as I can tell, the only buffs that scale with AR

>no sandals
>no exposed chest armor
>no fur pauldrons

DaS3 armor variety is shit. SHIT.

Of course it's subjective, that's the entire point.
I don't even dislike weapon arts even though a ton of them are exactly the same, even on special weapons. But they removed everything I liked from DaS2's gameplay from unorthodox dual wielding to feints in pvp.

Poise was pretty good in 2 btw, I don't dislike the current hyper armor system but armor weight seems balanced around a poise stat that never factors in which just fucks up the already stale fashion.

To be fair, nothing can catch rolls in DaS3