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Ohayou gozaimasu, /rlg/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets play our best today!

There is a sewer with an alligator in it.

that's the one with wide watery hallways full of adders

if you're an idiot and try to otab everything you'll die getting gangbanged by 5 adders while suffering shallow water penalties

if you fight them one at a time it's save though

I've been with oka the whole time, best he gave me is a holy double sword

To piggy back off of this, demon blades are super common in depths. LB is completely reasonable because of this.

holy double sword is pretty good if you're planning on more than 3 runes

grab a shield and go to town

Already done, but i'm a Fo so i wanted more dammit

but it's not the .,~*optimal*~,. choice

Its 1 base damage off of optimal. Its *good enough* to win the game with.

So how many people are going to drop PCB now that its back to grinding 20 more hours just for potions?

You always get a great sword or battle axe in depths
Now lajatangs on the other hand

Did they axe the stairway to heaven or something?

>not playing optimally

The new changes sound fun and !Healing is more common.

You could just do what this guy does. Or swap to TSO and make a Eudemon blade, which IS optimal.

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Does this change the get dex to 24 level up strat?

It literally tells you the effects in the description.

It just makes getting to 20~ dex more important.

It just keeps getting crazier

Isn't STR the go-to stat for killdudes now?

>nightstalker 3
>powered by death 2

Yes, but it just means it isn't shit like it used to be. You're not actively cultivating strength over dex for better killdudes, because you can almost always achieve adequate killdudes no matter what your strength is. The same cannot be said for EV and dex.

But it says its less important

Oh. Yeah that makes more sense. My bad, user. Brain fart. So sorry.

So dex to 18 then strength now?

You probably still want like 20-22 dex.

What are the odds of finding the 3 shields on the first floor?

From my conclusive sample of one game, I have to say that my 4.0.2 randarts are pretty bad.

Look at this. Who would use it.

about one in 6 million

...

First time I get aquirement while doing the MuMo challenge. Wat do?
Should I wait until I identify every ring and amulet in order to get some sweet-ass randarts or should I use it now and get dissapointed in this moment instead of later?

the value of something now is always worth more than the value of something later

plus, you could always be dead later

basic economics

Armour you lug.
Enjoy your +23 CPA {rF+++ rC+ rElec rCorr +10 Str + 10 Dex}

>the value of something now is always worth more than the value of something later

What about real estate? Checkmate, fag.
You sure? At least the ring I could use it...
Then again, I could also end up rolling an amulet, and that would be bad, too.

>buying real estate

good goy

ALWAYS
AQUIRE
'B'RMOUR

Ok, ok. Gave me +2 gloves of archery. At least I can use them, as they don't have slay.

Oh yeah dude.
Acquire a book.

Actually gloves of archery are +5 slay for ranged and thus haram

Well, until I learn the Zoom Punch, I can use them.

Now we're just being pedantic.

It is written in the Qu'ran that *all* slaying is haram and punishable by flaying and burial with a pig, barring your entry into paradise.

DO NOT MINCE THE WORDS OF THE PROPHET WITH YOUR TALMUDIC LEGALISM

Allah himself would've punished me already for using them, as he always does it when I use haram items. And yet, I's still alive.

I only trust the real prophet of Allah and Allah himself.

Does that mean boots of flying are allowed too if you dont evoke them

Everything is forbidden.

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ROFL

They are not allowed.

Worst fucking implementation I've ever seen.

I remember seeing 2 people using them, and nobody said a thing until now.

Strength is slaying too when you think about it.

Pretty sure Dicks explicitly commented on =Tele without evoking it and [Flying without evoking it in one of his MuMo streams.

It's not like anyone follows the rules though anyway. Why even ask?

>Why even ask?

To promote meaningless discussion to fill the void in our lives.

=Tele without evoking it still causes the random teleports to trigger though
Boots of flying without flying are just boots

That's the thing. you son't evoke the boots of flying. That's why some people used them.

Everyone agreed on them being banned at the time and thats it

hahahaha what the fuck is this
does that mean no one will ever drown because of Lom Lobon anymore?

What do you guys think of ADOM?

What do you guys think of the recent elemental evoker changes?

What did they change?

What do you guys think of my new dress?

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Seems alright.

>Removed the possibility of players that don't pay attention dying.

I feel like most drowning deaths were Lom throwing players into water.

PCB is dead!
Long live PCB!

Reduce phial of floods impact damagecommit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot5 hours agoChris CampbellRemove the stone of tremorscommit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot5 hours agoChris CampbellMake the lamp of fire and fan of gales not create elementals

Why
Fun
Bad

So lamp of fire is worse than useless now since it wastes a turn of combat and doesn't do shit. Great.

>Remove the stone of tremors
The memes are coming true holy fuck

Someone post that vampire stabber who died in shoals with full health

L O L

No its better now? You always used lamp of fire for the clouds and phial to fuck up shit with elementals

You always activated fan as a panic button, which is basically what it does now except better. Lamp was always in corridors or areas where you needed to block some area off so you could run. Literally no one used stone. Phial did a lot of damage, and I feel like this isn't the first time its damage has been adjusted. The elementals were meaningless, except if you got a really early evoker.

the elementals stopped liches from casting spells

Elementals stopped lot of casters to do their shit, it was really really helpful, especially against liches, something like butterflies but easier to do

Ok, you have me there. I'd never used them like that, but I tend to always bowl over liches one way or another. Did we really need a 0 skill "get out of lich" free card on lamp, fan AND phial?

Official /rlg/ Ancestor rating
>Broken tier
Hexer
>Okay tier
Fighter
>Walks around doing nothing
Battlemage

>phial doe an summon elementals and hits for less
>it's better now
Retart

Alright, so.
PCB's new randarts are horrendous, so randarts only is completely going to suck and not be viable anymore.
Cloning is not a thing anymore so no easy leveling off caaws and no conga.

I guess the only way to play remains the good old android rune knight. Just go around cities before even entering orc buying pieces of armor, trying to find a rod of clarity and level 32, then selling every piece of body armor you just slapped [stability] on, then gambling bulk scrolls for acquirement and reading them in Olympus.
Or you know.
You could just slog through 35+ like a bunch of primitive apes, exactly like we did before we discovered the conga and 555.

I don't get why this is the "only way to play". Plenty of people have fun without any of the scumming you mentioned.
If you were actually good at the game it probably wouldn't be such a slog.

Try playing without scumming.

Its a slog by design, nothing to do with being good or bad at it

>Try playing without scumming.
People tried and it usually ended with them killing the character out of boredom instead of going for the win

Good opinion.
I will continue to have fun playing games then while you continue to whinge and play games you do not enjoy.

>crawl removes more stuff
>PCB starting to remove shit too
>CoQ is no longer a roguelike
what a shit weekend

whats cock

Caves of Quckoldry

Brother of dicks
Relative of balls

Bahahaha. MPA fucked up and didn't follow the proper procedures for removing an item, so now people who update with a Stone in their inventory will get crashes until the devs bother to fix shit.

I can't even compile it for some reason, although i compiled mpapcb 4.0 just fine

What are some good mumo beginner tips

>Do snake pits for the very first time
>As a conjurer
>Found 2 food shops there
>Snake:4
>Four (4) uniques spawn on my ass on the same floor
>Snake callers blinking snake callers blinking nagas and salamanders blocking way escape ways
>End up eating the 2 shops whole

Jesus, maybe I should have done swamps first.

Is snake the hardest non-slimes vault in lair? I thought it would have been easy since it replaced spider.

Also how do I stop starving as conjurer? I already have 15 spellcasting and gourm, yet I'm always seeking food, but that may have just been because snake has no food?

Can't compile Crawl? What?
If you are having trouble compiling, I can help if you are using a linux environment.

New PosChengband video: youtu.be/RxVkQTzTMpg

It might not be available at full quality right away, if so, wait a while and refresh.
It's been a few weeks 'cus of the DCSS tournament.

Shoals > Snake > Spider > Swamp
Snake:4 is just attrition but not really dangerous

I gave you the best tips last time
The best advice is to look at the winning pharaohs' ' morgues

i was thinking of mpa-pcb and stone of lore

whoops

Spider/Swamp = Easy
Snake/Shoals = Hard

Okay, well what are you using to compile it? If you are compiling on linux/cygwin, I can probably help if you post the error(s) you are getting.

If anyone can actually compile mpa-PCB can you post a binary too? Thanks

If you can tell me how to cross compile for windows, I would be happy to!

what is mpa pcb

the exact opposite of crawl:
it's ______fun_____