/rlg/ - Roguelike General

>ohio awoo

jewelry is generally a terrible option if you're not Op

wands are good, misc can be good if you have decent evo, and if your spellcasting skills are all 0 staffs has about an 80% chance to give a rod

Jewelry is pretty bad until you have the base types identified.

i got a vamp sword why the hell would i want a rod right now?
i might wait till i got more base types then, since i'm really hurting for something good in those slots.

>need to be not-good alignment to summon demons
>killing all the evil/undead/whatever monsters raises your alignment
Sure wish I could actually use summon manes!

At least I've upgraded from magic missile to this crap randart whip that does all of 29 average damage and trashes my device skill. But it has vampirism so it's still OP.

I would go wand. You have a substantial chance of getting heal wounds or hasting, which are both amazing.
Jewelry will try to give you base types you don't have yet and, well, there's a lot of base types.

Don't do it! Don't fight her! Just walk away man.

Goddamit, Wiglaf. Where the fuck did you got this equipment?!

>hasting
>

i already have hasting.

ps. I'm a ant.

Do you know Sky Rogue ?

time to wish for a bob and have a hasted primal oxbat solo zot5 for you

zot's not gona be a problem, more trying to see what I can get to help with hell and such, bob would be nice though.

good news guys, finally got my ev back up to double digits, all it took was the xp equivalent of both lair branches and the rest of the dungeon going into dodging.

New PosChengband video:
youtu.be/ilHRamBhQPE

This random teleport will surely be useful!

>[worried laughter]

How are demon whips compared to morningstars?

...

Strictly better.

it's a blowgun

you want an eveningstar my man

I don't have one, which is why I specified morningstars.

>first time trying Gozag
>bribe in Vaults 5
>a Titan allies himself with me

should have bribed zot

>these helms
Lucky personality is great.

>he can't afford multiple bribes

>tfw you blew all your money on shops

ok, how are these compared to boots of running? i mean I'm pretty sure running's better but i haven't had many games where I got running.

Running's better.

Me and my V:5 crew.
Having a fire giant makes things... interesting, to say the least.
Thank goodness for rF++.

>not playing a hydra to wear all your helms
Is lucky still worth it on those weird slot races that have a harder time making up for the lower stats with equipment?

Running is literally worthless unless you're on like d:4 and have no other escape options.

whatever slaying +6 str gives > gaining a square every ten moves

>telling a Young, Impressionable MuMo he shouldn't wear the gloves of shaolin
You sicken me.
No, seriously. What's your damage. He comes here with only good intentions in his heart and he gets shitposted at.
Is shitposting about MuMo rules the new thing?
You want to ruin that too?

@143841363
>the new thing
>new

MuMo was ruined the moment it was "won"
Remember the shitstorm that ensued?

@143841614
we were only doing it ironically back then

i don't care if it was dumb, cloning Mara was therapeutic.

People have been taking MuMo seriously since day one. Such is the power of autism.

Swapping on health regen amulets was absolutely mandotory if you actually wanted to do extended without TSO/Makhleb

New Mumo rules:
All artefacts are banned unless they are terrible and make it more likely for you to lose

One guy yelling at his computer screen that the dude's win is invalidated because he forgot to drop his starting robe on D1 and did so in D3 was fun until it became obvious he wasn't joking. Even dicks made the invisible robe of rage as a joke for how angry they were, as a joke.
Too bad autists can't get jokes.
It only went downhill from there.

So is it normal for the inventory in mpa-PCB to only go up to y or is there something wrong?
This is still 4.0.1 by the way.

Well if the game actually supported conducts then indeed the win using the robe wouldnt have counted

New MuMo rules: Have fun. If you're not having fun, it doesn't count.

yeah mpa-pcb reduced inventory size by 1 in exchange for giving everyone a free stone of lore at level 25

We should ban rF from Mumo to make it truly hardcore

but it's in crawl
those rules are impossible

how about a completely naked mumo
only rings and maybe amulets allowed

so a felid?

What if we make MuMo like Lord of Darkness III
Change the runes to all pan and hell runes and no lair/orc/vaults allowed

What if the rules were fine

Sounds good to me.

They obviously arent otherwise people would stop having to ask for clarifications about them while getting different answers

>remove 3 cards
>since there aren't enough cards in it anymore, remove deck of wonders
>since deck of wonders is gone, remove deccks of summoning changes and defence

How the hell do you kill basalisks in PCB? I've been faulted for the last goddamn time.

Getting to level 25 in mpa-PCB gives the message "You have evolved into a Stone of Lore."

Here we are,
Born to be Pharaohs
We're the princes of all /rlg/,
Here we belong,
Fighting to survive in a war with the dankest shitpost,

And here we are,
We're the princes of the /rlg/,
Here we belong,
Fighting for survival,
We've come to be the rulers of the thread,

I am immortal,
I have inside me blood of gods,
I have no rival,
No foo can be my equal,
Take me to the end of your branch,

Born to be pharaohs,
Princes of all /rlg/,
Fighting and UC,
Got your Rune in my hand,
I'm here for your xp and I'll make my stand,
We were born to be princes of all /rlg/,

No man could understand.
My power is in my own FIST,
Ooh, ooh, ooh, people shittalk about you,
People say you've broke your rules.

I'm a mummy, mummy that will go far,
fist the moon troll, grab all the runes,
With my bandaged hands held high,
Got to clear the lair first time, yeah.

I know that people shitpost about me
I hear it every day,
But I can prove you wrong
'cause I'm having fun,

you really can't make this shit up
jesus christ
decks used to be the most interesting part of crawl

I got to the end of Lair as a SpEn and I feel weak as fuck, what gives?

I dipped into Shoals to see what was good and I get rekt by everyone

>here, we've removed this thing
>since we removed thing, we gotta cut thing yoo
>oh and thing really has to go.
Pottery
Apply fist

killing shit in pcb isn't exactly complicated

just dont fight them if you don't have the resists for your breath

basilisks breathe poison and greater basilisks have nether and i think one other element (disenchantment?)

I'm starting to think it's a contest, like, the devs are taking turns justifying removing things from crawl systematically and sometimes adding stuff on top to cover it up, until the whole thing falls and crumbles to dust. Kinda like Jenga

oh yeah they also removed salamander stormcallers

Theyre trying to turn it into a linesprint tabfast

por que

Good fuck stormcallers

Darkness.
Also you need Free Action since they paralyse you.

So which of the 3 decks left has the summoning cards

decks of war are a mix of 50/50 summonings/battle

>nemelex was always about decks of summoning
>after a million reworks they finally removed them

nemelex hasn't gifted decks of summoning for a while

they were OP so they mixed them with decks of battle to create decks of war

so now you get a 50% chance to get a useful card (summoning), a 45% chance to get a worthless Battle card, and a 5% chance to get Elixir

Gozag fucking OP.

>depriving yourself of precious xp

Nigga....

>[Hand rubbing intensifies]

>Friendly OoF
>Neutral OoF
>That draconian getting fucked by his bros
Nice.

And that's a winner. 5 runes.
Special thanks to the rF+++ helm I found to keep my poor flammable ass from getting burned. Plus the +8 flame flail that carried me through the early game.

>ascended with 16864 shekels and the orb of zot
Mu of Gozag is just so damned optimal.

Not having to shell out for food shops is definitely nice. I also found means you effectively get an "extra" shop offered every time you set one up, since the otherwise mandatory food shop offering doesn't appear.
The downside is, well, you have to be a Mu, with all the wonderful aptitudes that brings with it.

Mummies have average aptitudes. THey're basically humans that don't need to eat

Nice job man. How'd you like MuFi^Gozag?

>-2 across the board
>average

>Mu
>Average apts
They're pretty shit, user. Mu are definitely the most fun race though.

They also gain exp terribly slow, making it even worse

Straight -2s is not average.
Oh yeah, and Gozag lets mummies get potion effects that are otherwise impossible.

Gl actually. I can't live without those damn nets in the early game.
It was pretty interesting, being my first Mu win and my first Gozag win. Potion petition really helped out in some tight situations and Bribe is goddamn broken-tier.
Honestly the shops probably made the least impact of all, although still nice.

Also new Elf is hell, who the fuck thought those elementalists were a good idea?
>hurr some players abuse killholes so we'll just completely fuck over everyone

the key now is to make like 10 killholes
So if one gets blown up you go to the second

Gl is a great mummy start too, since you don't really want to use your starting shield right off the bat. For elf, you just didn't dig enough killholes. Those new guys still fall to a 3 or 4 path killhole.

>Those new guys still fall to a 3 or 4 path killhole.
How? Every single turn they obliterated all the walls around me and made like 6 more elementals.

You let your initial killhole get wrecked and break LoS to lure them into the second bend. However, a better way to kill them is by throwing a stone and closing a door to break LoS or break LoS with the unbreakable stone walls of the vault.