>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial? If you have to ask, you can't do it.
>I just started, what should I do? Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
Future: >Winter: new "drilling platforms" >Fall: new "industrial arrays", barge reworks >Summer: AOE BOOST/LINK REWORK, citadel iterations + contracts, Rorqual rework >May 31: Old camera being removed >May 30: Dust 514 shutting down (long live Project Nova) >May 24: SP Dailies
Ongoing: >May 20: PL Fortizar on Goon's Saranen undock
Past: >May 19: HK anchors first XL Citadel >May 16: Stunt Flores now Imperium FC >May 12: You can name ships automatically with a saved fit's name now >May 06: Eve Online 13th Anniversary >Apr 27: Citadels & cap rebalance released. Tears, bugs, etc. RIP rolling yachts. >Apr 25: Eve players contributed 167 years of work to Project Discovery >Apr 23: Fanfest 2016 over >Apr 21: community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm-11-election-results/ >Apr 19: GSF camped into Saranen >Apr 10: Drone Walkers doing some crazy stuff in the Russian theater >Apr 12: GSF absorbing Imperium corps; FCON + SMA bail >Mar 28: CFC is dying. CO2 reset. IWI funding the MBC to burn down goons >Mar 18: Guristas Hunt event (Shekel Madness: 3D) >Mar 09: Project Discovery launched + massive mod tiercides that broke a lot of fits. >Feb 18: Last CSM X Summit: community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-second-csm-x-summit-meeting-minutes-included >Feb 09: SP trading >Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
hey guys there is a new /eog/ channel called Avada's Tears. y'all should check it out, this channel is more of a seriousfag channel, mostly talking about WH life, posting dank frags, and much more.
come chill with Tengoo guys and a few retarded memers like maquari (he behaves in that channel tho).
any way come check it out, kick back, and chillax with some v-bros. I'll catch ya on the flip side.
Sebastian Sullivan
>90001. Small gang NPC sov nullsec/lowsec
feels good man
Tyler Bennett
>/eog/ channel
Asher Ramirez
How dafuq do I start running incursions? Never done this before and I'm currently not in any corp atm.
Cameron Sullivan
if youre not skilled out the ass dont bother
Blake Turner
wtm accepts meta 4 blaster rokhs
Grayson Ramirez
pls i'm sick of being in the shadow realm
William Cruz
You don't need to be skilled out the ass
all you need is to fit meta 4 guns on some battleship, get 70%+ resists and 100k tank overall before links.
its barely 2 weeks of training in your racial battleship of choice
Luke Martin
WARP TO ME
Noah Hughes
Is there a basic guide i can follow just to get started? All i know is that incursions give a fuckton of money and that they're sort of raide-esque events.
Luke Wright
>Is there a basic guide i can follow just to get started? Yes, thats also on WTM's website as well.
Gabriel Nguyen
sorry, you are too stupid for incursions
Hudson Baker
nigga it's like missions except enemies are bullet sponges so you need logi. All you need to do is shoot who the FC tells you to shoot.
Austin Nelson
ty
Ayden Walker
u2
Lincoln Baker
>Be me in my Hel >get jammed by one EC-300 despite having a sensor booster with a total of 340 sensor strength. >happens twice in the fight >EC-300 does 5 sensor strength >5/343 = 1.4% chance
Jeremiah Morales
oh I forgot about my 80% EWAR resistance
5*0.2 = 1
1/343 = 0.29% chance of jamming me and they got it fucking twice
this ewar resistance shit especially against ECM is fucking dog shit
Jayden Richardson
Remove ECM Rename damps to ECM Give Caldari anti-drone ewar EVE is fixed
Benjamin Cooper
k no one cares
Cooper Edwards
fuck yourself
ecm is fine
Jordan Bennett
I'd rather just chance ECM to a jamming system that reduces the number of targets you can target that isn't based on RNG
Carter Barnes
>ecm is fine
Aaron Allen
>RNG is fine you're fucking retarded, you could have 1000 sensor strength and RNG will still and always fuck you in EVE
Carson Kelly
>be in my titan >a slasher comes by and scrams me >it turns off my MWD, Jump Drive and portal generator >a dinky little ship barely the size of my guns >shuts off almost all of my drive systems
Juan Lee
So how do you see non-RNG jams? 1% chance of jamming means it jams you on first cycle and then 99 next cycles are guaranteed misses? It would end up being exactly the same, except no miracle RNG jam fails. You'd be soundly fucked against a prepared ecm fleet that can jam you on every cycle because they can get enough jammers to bring it up to 100%.
At least the way it is now, RNG is working in your favour.
Jayden Campbell
why do stupid broke ass motherfuckers keep recommending incursions?
you nerds know that shit is poverty-tier income right?
Tyler Scott
yeah, rng is fine because how potent it is
name something better fora new player
oh wait, filtered
Ryder Reed
>1% chance of jamming means it jams you on first cycle and then 99 next cycles are guaranteed misses? thats not how RNG works.
You flip two coins, each coin has a 1/2 chance of being heads
you don't always get heads then a tails or vice versa when you flip two coins, you could get heads-heads, heads-tails, or tails-heads, and if the order matters, tails-heads.
even with a 1% to jam you could get jammed on a fucking fluke and your targetting is disabled for 30 seconds
Ryan Nelson
Remove ecm entirely.
Levi Bell
>yeah, rng is fine because how potent it is No thats fucking stupid, its entirely erroneous and no other EWAR relies on RNG
Joseph Rodriguez
>name something better first off incursions aren't for new players secondly, faction warfare all day every day
or shit just buy plex and stop being a fucking pubbie trying to rat2riches
Jack Brown
because other ewar isn't as potent as ecm
Easton Brooks
How about you don't skip the first sentence. This was the non-RNG part. To make it a fixed jam/fail.
Which is a bad idea, as exemplified by the rest of the post.
Evan Price
>the cuck who spends irl money to literally blow it up is back
Ayden Rogers
Thats not an argument, you're trying to force potency despite having nothing behind it.
ECM shouldn't work on RNG, its completely skillless and theres no application to it, it either jams or it doesn't Absolutely no guarantee
meanwhile with all the other EWAR, you are guaranteed a certain effect on a ship, 50% to lock range, target speed, tracking disruption etc
Jackson Russell
>2 weeks to get into >not for new players
Gavin Martinez
if i wasnt a neet i would spend money on this game all the time. its much better per hr.
Noah Powell
>its completely skillless
explain how anything else in this game is different
Colton Miller
>everyone can go fly a blaster rokh for wtm >its a deal thats lasts forever! so easy!
Owen Nguyen
>spending money on games This isn't a mobile pewpew garbage.
Colton Long
There is no determinant with ECM, it jams or it doesn't jam
Every other ECM is guaranteed effect.
Robert Martin
it is easy, in the time it takes you to train minimally into incursions you can do level 3's in a dinky cruiser and save money
Anthony Phillips
yeah, and again, the difference is the potency
Andrew Long
Potency isn't even an argument, you're just saying "potency" as if it means anything when it certainly doesn't
Adrian Watson
the whole argument around ecm is that its too fucking strong dipshit
Lincoln Diaz
No its not, it was never about strength it was about bullshit RNG
No one said anything about strength, you could have 1 jam strength and still jam a titan despite it having 500+ sensor strength regardless
Gabriel Cook
>you could have 1 jam strength and still jam a titan despite it having 500+ sensor strength
god damn, looks like i'm right again
Nathan Taylor
that has nothing to do with strength its about the fucking RNG you can't read for shit
Justin Ramirez
>1 jam strength is STRONG >despite it being about RNG >no guys its all about strength it has nothing to do with RNG I swear >RNG ewar is fine
Matthew Reed
explain how its not fine
explain how or why rng is "bad"
Tyler Nelson
Stop replying to He'll just twist your arguments.
Jace Collins
Holy fuck you're thicker than a bowl of oatmeal
Ian Bell
i know, but i'm bored and my region is silent atm
Landon Garcia
...
Bentley Wilson
>2 weeks to get into >no fleet will let you join because they can tell what shitty skills and fit you have
Luke Rogers
>ECM now has a 100% guaranteed jam for 30 seconds, and a module cycle time of 6 minutes >during cycle time, your resistances and cap recharge rate are reduced by a tenth >ECCM modules reduce jam time by a couple of seconds
Literally why isn't this implemented yet
Hunter Hill
jesus, nobody would ever use them
Benjamin Jackson
>not linking the old thread why even bother making your shit thread
why aren't you skilled into your alliance's doctrines user?
John Baker
fuck off trying to get spoon fed
Asher Bennett
>doctrines
Ethan Thompson
7/10
Thomas Nelson
>mfw filtering the tripniggers
Jonathan Turner
the fuck is this garbage
Grayson Nguyen
But I'am skilled into everything 140mil sp boi
Lucas Allen
>using filters what the fuck have you niggers done to my Veeky Forums in the last decade
in my day we lived with tripfaggotry like the trap-fapping cuckbois we were
Leo Moore
nigga I can see your Veeky Forums join date, it's 3/21/2016
Mason Clark
Reduce the size of FW zones
Have only a single constellation be contested every week. Players are pressed down to this zone, meaning nowhere to hide and plenty of targets. Both sides of the conflict have a staging system where they have a station with clone services.
Ensure more even fights
FW Plexes now have both a size limit and a numerical limit of ships. There exist solo plexes, small group plexes, and fleet plexes. Another change to plexes is that capturing a plex requires the player to be within a short distance and hits all players with an infini-point like a HIC. The plex also prevents targets from D-scanning in or out, so players never know what or who they'll be engaging.
Reduce refit/return time
Home stations within contested stations have a new service that allows players to purchase modular, pre-fit ships. The fitted modules can be chosen through a menu, and once the ship is purchased, the fittings cannot be removed without being destroyed, like rigs.
Ships can either be purchased with raw ISK or loyalty points. By doing faction warfare, most players, even ones on the losing side, should make enough loyalty points to cover replacement ships for rapid engagements.
Inclusion for non-combat players
In addition to rapid combat deployment, more industrial minded players also have an avanue to help their compatriots. New logistic corps exist and give players objectives to deliver goods to the current contested home station of their faction. For every item delivery order completed, the price of replacement ships for the faction's milita is reduced. Thus, guarding the logistic supply chain throughout the contested constellation's various zones becomes an activity of itself, with larger fleets hoping to guard valuable industrial vessels through space.
Owen Butler
>join date good one user but i'm too salty an oldfag for that
Levi Long
In addition, high density asteroid fields regularly spawn within the constellation, guarded with a light faction navy presence, hostile to all players not in the militia or logistics corp which denies access to non-militia miners. The asteroids that spawn are extra dense versions of themselves (Resulting in faster overall mining) and include all types needed to build the modules and ships requested for drop off. In this way, the contested zone of FW becomes a complete ecosystem where minerals are mined and ships are built and destroyed, like a super compact version of New Eden.
Hunter Campbell
Remove FW. Most people in the zone don't even belong to militia and are just there for fights.
Asher Perez
being able to join pirate factions when????
Sebastian Hall
how much better do factional warfare missions pay out?
Julian Richardson
Gud, but why make mandelore so abusive?
Further request for a Timm3h/Mussah fanfic. Str8/Gay/Trap w/e.
Keep it up boyo
Adrian Miller
It's the only reason to be in FW. It pays a lot.
Xavier Rodriguez
>be in Dust beta >Character still in Serpentis
Brandon Green
Its just because Reyni is a slut and actually loves it, in the end she happily accepts her fate
William Watson
It's mostly LP though.
Thomas Bailey
200-600 mil/hr, depending on the faction tier and how efficient you are at running them
Nathan Cox
and what are your odds of getting creamed by enemies?
Adam Hill
remember to never trust triofaggots, they lie and lie. and never quote them
Jose Ramirez
0-5%, as long as you follow basic precautions and don't auto-warp to a gate at 0 the moment you pop into a system full of flashies like a moron
these days you probably have more to fear from the rats
A unique utility highslot module/weapon for Assault Frigates, along with a re-balance pass, that would give them some kind of unique role not found on any other ship in the game.
Ian Cook
>le unique >we need even more gamebreaking special snowflakes
Zachary Brown
mining is the backbone of eve economy i am insuly by fact that the player killers in this game would even dare to try to compare their unserious proffesion to the truly thinking mans life dream eve is the has beeen in the forefront of advanced simulation of market data and thanks to countles studies we all know that eve is the best game for this i think ccp should just remove shooting players all together it adds nothing to the game and just generates lost minerals instead we should all just keep building ships forver and make vast loads of them in order to have them this is what i did when i was in all-out but since they stole my medium gun machariel i realize they trylu do not share my dream thus i am also i think that we need to remove system security since concord do not respond in null when my svipul gets ganked by the noctis player using such a ship for a dirty job is truly not pallatable and i thunk u all should reconsider your careeers in eve but that is just my tought even thought i am right so just so you know so stop arguing and lets discuss the best mining setups for players with low amounts of isk okay guys but do not forget that i need some so please send in case i need it but i can t afford to pay back since i am poor and lose svipul in lowsec also do not ever stop mining my friends mining is truly the best i really enjoy it i think ccp needs to buff it rhough since i only earn 2 million isk per cycle can anyone help i think since it is clearly bugged i do not know what to do and i am kind of tired so do not come of as snarky or i will report u to the mdoeratos and they will ban you because i know them irl and know they hate you all sicne they are truly secret miners as well but i think yoi call know this since i essentially control this baord and do not ever forget this just so you know but anyway lets also kill white stag since they are so bad at the game i truly wish goosn would come back so i could use my main to farm guirsatas pirates in deklin.
Dylan Edwards
They need something, faction frigates just out do them in almost every way, they dont have a use at the moment.
so just fix their stats so they aren't shitty. I don't want to see more meme modules or retarded bullshit immunities
alternatively just pretend they don't exist, and put a big warning for new players saying they're garbage and not to train for them. AFs being useless doesn't do much bad for the game. nerfing the overpowered stuff would be way more beneficial and easy
Daniel Thomas
no but you are
Charles Ramirez
they sure do have a use, T1 logi, T1 ewar and hell T1 dps frigs as a whole have a use purely because they're miles cheaper
Evan Rivera
Not arguing, they just need to be buffed in some way or given a useful role