/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

Fine, why are all Sonic porn artists so shit? Are there any we didn't cover last thread?

>I think a lot of ideas that were used in the Penders era was very very good. Including the Romance stuff. Although I also feel that he lost his luster when he started actively sabotaging other writers and was being an egotist.
That's because half of his ideas were ripped from better media. And even then, a lot of the romance stuff you probably liked wasn't him. It was Bollers

The potential that Penders' ideas had were what interested Flynn the most, if I recall. It was his implementation that squandered it all, as you said.

90s comics in general had a lot of shit in them that were charming but not necessarily executed well. The idea of the Egg Grapes is a fine idea that was cheesy enough to be something Eggman would actually make while being one of his most diabolical and devastating creations. However, I cannot agree that the romance was an aspect that was good. If anything romance should only be present in passing at the very most.
Also

Not either of those anons but the only romance I would like in the comics is Antoine and Bunnie having cute moments together since they're married and all. That's about it. If any other married couples get introduced then I guess they can have cute moments too.

Even those should still be in passing and they have been so far.

I'm fine with Bunnie and Antoine because they never had any fucking stupid love triangle bullshit or forced drama (Outside of the bullshit with Patch) like Sonic and Sally did.
Also this. And the few moments we've gotten are cute as fuck

I appreciate the feedback. I understand that having limits can be helpful, but I miss when the comic would do anything to catch the reader. Personifications of concepts like Vertical & Horizontal? Humans AND not-quite humans? Fucking Aliens out of nowhere that ended up being the origin of life as it was? Crossovers with Maxx AND Sabrina?

My All-Time favorite wacky thing the Sonic Comic did was Moses teaming up with Robin Hood. Shit was cash to me.

I kind of miss that too, but I like it and hate it for the same reason. It didn't feel like it belonged in a Sonic comic. Granted, that was half the fun of it, because you would never expect this kind of shit in a Sonic comic and it made the world feel a bit more trippy and unique, but it also added some really dumb shit
>Personifications of concepts like Vertical & Horizontal?
That also turned into giant killer robots

I recently came across someplace that was complaining about Austin's inks ruining pencil work quite some time ago. The fact it continues to this day proves Archie's not gotten any better about its staffing choices and that we have such good artists on the book now is more luck than anything.

They're not wrong. For comparison here are Evan's original pencils for

I'm not an art person. What exactly am I supposed to be seeing that's "wrong" about the colored version?

His inks tend to remove the smoothness from a lot of smaller lines. So the end product comes out a little more jaggy than before it got inked. I personally think all pencilers should ink their own pencils so at least if they fuck it up they ruined their own drawing.

Holy fuck, that last thread. What did you niggas do?

This is the kind of thing I would love to see Evan or ABT chime in on.

Made a babby shit his diaper.

Retards took the bait instead of ignoring it.

What species would you like to see in the series?

Anteater. Also hornets

echidnas

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>I personally think all pencilers should ink their own pencils so at least if they fuck it up they ruined their own drawing.
This is something only a casual observer would say.

Inking is an entirely different skillset than pencilling and can be extremely difficult, especially when done by hand. It's not just about choosing which pencil lines are important, but also dictating line thickness, fixing errors, determining how much of the shading is left to the colorist, creating art that will actually be readable in color, etc.

It's fucking hard. You want to see how hard, check TSI's poor attempt at re-inking an Endangered Species cover over at the Archie Online forums. Austin was one of the greats, and part of his problem isn't as much that he's not trying as his inking style being suited for the angular, striking style of 80's Marvel rather than the thin, soft curves of modern Architecture Sonic.

Sonic is too slow.

>This is something only a casual observer would say.
Nice high horse.
I understand what all goes into inking but no one knows how to follow an artist's lines like the artist that drew them. Part of me thinking that a penciler should ink their own drawings is implying that they know how to ink properly.

>Nice high horse.
I'm just going from experience. It's not the kind of thing most drawfag's would say.

I can't imagine most actual pencil artists wanting to ink by hand; I have a hard enough time inking digitally.

Me either. It's a personal ideal that I think would only work in certain cases but work well in those cases. It would also depend on the pecilers.

Inking is hard as hell, and if I pencilled for Archie, I know for a fact I wouldn't want to ink my own work.

Well now we're just changing the whole statement. Of course it works well for some people, you've got people who exclusively ink their pencils. The idea that--in a "perfect world" where all pencillers are great at inks--all pencillers should ink their own work is so dismissive towards professional inkers and sounds like a misunderstanding of the entire process. It dismisses inking as if it isn't just as integral as coloring for a finalized, colored page. If we're talking about that kind of ideal, why JUST the inker? Why isn't this person also the writer and colorist and letterer and editor so their vision isn't compromised? It's an inherently belittling statement.

rats

Have a thing.

Take it back.

is mayonnaise a species

Cool.

Enjoy the vacation tho

You have a decent understanding of perspective, but it's trying too hard to be erotic and is just kinda gross.

4/10, draw cutes instead.

No Knuckles, mayonnaise is not a species

Didn't draw it myself, but a friend did. I just wanted to see more Bump/user shenanigans.

Well, tell your friend they have a decent understanding of perspective, but it's trying too hard to be erotic and is just kinda gross.

Okay, but t-
Hey, don't copy-paste me, bitch.

I'll copy-paste whatever I want! I'm obviously quicker on the draw than you, old man!

I'm...too slow...

Will do. He's more used to doing porn and like you said, it shows through. Thanks for the feedback all the same.

Already got my vacation ticket.
My that was quick.

That picture was great and should not have been deleted

Furry facesitting art goes on /trash/.

I just woke up to see the disaster, I even remember an user once saying no one can argue about Sonic rationally...that user was absolutely right.

The only was to break his heart... need more blue hedgehog suffering.

What was deleted?

see

God damn, it's been a long time since I've seen "no picture available" user

TMNT

The main character is one, though.

I followed 's advice if you still want to see it.

How would Sonic react to not being the fastest?

Is there anyone who is actually faster than Sonic?

>How would Sonic react to not being the fastest?
Considering he got pissed at Jet for even insinuating that shit, I'd say pissed beyond belief. Metal Sonic could briefly move faster than him in CD, but it overloaded his systems, so Sonic can go the fastest for the longest period of time

Plus it's all natural, while shitters like the Flash cheat by using the speed force.

Just leaving this here, found it on /v/ about maybe a week ago.

>tfw want to see it
>tfw at work

But I thought Sonic's whole deal was being "the fastest thing alive"
I wouldn't think he'd care too much about machines being faster than him, otherwise he'd probably be incredibly insecure over the existence of hypersonic aircraft
And any and all spacecraft, for that matter

>I wouldn't think he'd care too much about machines being faster than him, otherwise he'd probably be incredibly insecure over the existence of hypersonic aircraft
He wants to be the fastest PERIOD. I don't think he'd mind if spacecraft or planes went faster, but for something like Metal Sonic, he'd certainly mind

I think he'd take some issue with Metal, since he is a metal robot version of him. I figure he'd want to be faster than him rather than just an aircraft.

Well, you also have to consider Super Sonic. Super Sonic probably is much faster then anything we've seen in Sonic's World.

Came back and didn't expect someone to get so triggered over this.
>why JUST the inker
You want to know the similarity between penciling and inking? They both involve the linework. You want to know what penciling and coloring don't have in common? The fucking linework. Have an actual counterpoint to what I think instead of pulling something out of a hat to use. The only belittling statement here is yours for assuming I'm looking at this negatively when the only person that has said Austin doesn't fit is you.

I think Sonic would care about robots/AI. Maybe not so much aircraft or totally mindless machines, but I think Sonic would probably want to be faster than Metal, Silver Sonic, Shard, random badnik, etc. even if they aren't "alive"

Hell, I'd see him thinking of it as sort of a challenge that Eggman built his own Sonic to match him speedwise. I mean, he just straight up races Metal in CD rather than traditionally fight him.

amy a cute

Downright fucking beautiful.
Can we get some more quality edits in here? This bait- v shit-post business put a bad taste in my mouth.

Amy's the cutest!

Thought that was Roll for a second.

>Fingernails
They just don't look good on Mobians

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>You want to know the similarity between penciling and inking? They both involve the linework. You want to know what penciling and coloring don't have in common? The fucking linework.
Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

I'm saying this again because there is no other reasonable alternative: this HAS to be the opinion of a casual observer. Nobody who has ever inked or colored a piece or art would be this ignorant.

To put this in perspective, we have to remember you're proposing an ideal world where all pencillers do their own inks. You're suggesting that since the inks take the place of the pencils on the final page, the lack of an inker would stop pencils from getting fucked over.

The problem is every other member of the team is just as important. Colors can convey tone, setting, mood, relationships and even levels of action. A bad lettering job can cover up important parts of illustrations and break flow and ruin the reading experience. A bad editor can fuck with the art, add bad effects to the colors, tamper with the script. Shit pencils can be a waste on good inkers and colorists and completely fuck the writer over, and a bad writer can be so vague that it screws the work from the start.

There's nothing wrong with saying "I hate X's inks, the pencillers should do it instead" because that's a judgement on the relative skills of several artists. Suggesting that pencillers should just do their own inks universally is just a ludicrous misunderstanding of how comics work on the level of moronic comments like "Ian shouldn't have to listen to an editor" and "Why do they need a separate person to write the words?"

Keep at it with pointless jargon like how "triggered" I am, though. You're nearly as bad as that moron who thought there was only one definition for tone in writing.

Couldn't stop at the ears and leotard. Had to add the bitchlips and fingernails.

I kinda think one or the other would've been okay tho

>we have to remember you're proposing an ideal world where all pencillers do their own inks
More like where pencillers that can ink do so to their own work. Might want to work on your memory and/or reading skills.
>still going on about all that shit that has nothing to do with pencils and inks
Either keep focused or fuck off. I'm not going to keep arguing my point if you're going to go off on tangents related to things other than PENCILS and INKS.
>is just a ludicrous misunderstanding of how comics work on the level of moronic comments like "Ian shouldn't have to listen to an editor" and "Why do they need a separate person to write the words?"
No, it's not and even if your false equivalence comparison was correct, it would not apply to me because I never said that.
>calls me a moron
>can't read, focus, or even remember correctly
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Anyone got any hot artist drama™ they wanna talk about?

You're favorite artist a shit.

Jokes on you, I have no favorite artists.

there isn't a version without those or I would have posted it. maybe we could ask our friendly neighbourhood drawfags to correct it?

What would Sonic be doing in life if he wasn't fast?

Being this loser.

Chilling out maxing relaxing all cool, shooting some b-ball outside of this school.

Cows

I don't know of any hot artists. Do you?

Be dead or a robot, since Eggman would win.

Now that I think about it, that would be the best ending.

Nah. They're all pretty fugly I imagine

I came

I've heard rumors that InCase is actually a hunk.

those are all reasons I loathed it.That and its execution

Not that Amy, though. That Amy a gross.

Boo to you

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