After our Thousand Year Old Slumber, WE ARE FINALLY ALIVE AGAIN.
Holy shit /edg/ is back, now its more jaded then before. Come, join the fun
>whats new? Frontier added 2.1, now trying patch it and contain the shitstorm
>good new huge, large weapons are added a lot of utility updates like bookmarks docking radio chatter AI bitch lost her shit pastebin.com/ATxFSC9s
>bad AI is broken, overpowered, BUT frontier removed the engineer stuff on AI half of the missions are bugged Bulk trade taxes Frontier broke the PP, removed funzones. no more turreting Brabo pulling the plug on ARCHON DELAINE
>ugly RNGINEERS adds a new layer of grind to the game AI is back to its old self heatsinks are still fucking nerfed
When the skellingtrons are going back to their tomb?
Jason Mitchell
Reading all kind of discussions, pleas, demands, threads about Engineers it feels like people still don't try to understand it, maybe even just because they are going trough emotions, trying to force it to become what it's not. It happens all the time, but it is very visible with Engineers.
So my opinion seeing how it all works is this - Engineers is side activity (not main one, it is clearly not an mandatory upgrade path) which rewards having varied play style or "life" in ED universe.
It is system designed as anti-thesis of "consuming content". It is not really a content per se, it is mechanism which together with assets adds new gameplay, and thus content. It trades clear min/max paths with variations of outcomes. You get bonus...but you don't know what kind of bonus you get, and grinding for it is quite taunting task. Probability gates are there to avoid players get specific upgrade (as I said, not a mandatory upgrade path), but get upgrade nevertheless.
Why I like it? It doesn't force me into mandatory upgrade mill, yet it can give me boost in interesting ways. I also love collecting materials (I love looting, FD has done it right) and it gives some context and ideas how and why to do it.
Why some people might not like it? Well, min/maxers will definitely not like it, as it is clear anti-thesis of calculated paths towards upgrades, they most likely will struggle to understand concept of this. Pure PvP fans will most likely avoid Engineer mods in combative dogfights as they want equal standing. "Griefers" will loath it and love it in same time, but with buffed NPCs I think they will have more issues on their hands. People locking themselves in specific roles will try to understand why they should bother.
I think main point is - you don't. None of ED systems added are mandatory (same as roles - they arent, so why Engineer mods should be). However, if you hit it right with one of them, you are in treat.
Lincoln Gomez
>Frontier broke the PP, removed funzones. no more turreting they didnt remove funzones, they just bugged PP so there arent any >the bugs do a better QA than FD
Evan Young
Huh, what's that? A valid and well constructed post? Here? Unbeliveable!
Well said CMDR, have some rep o7
Kevin Gonzalez
You got it spot on cmdr o7
i wish i could rep you twice :^)
Thomas Perez
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Zachary Campbell
>AI is back to its old self
I don't believe this. I was mining in an Anaconda and making my way back to a station, and I continuously got interdicted by a FAS. My large and medium pulse lasers barely even scratched its fucking shields. It was able to knock out my shields in 3 seconds and took me down to 75% hull in the blink of an eye before I barely was able to bug out. Then I had to spend 10 minutes constantly submitting and jumping to SC to make it back to the station.
Fuck this game.
Jackson Phillips
Had a similar experience earlier.
Lies, goddamn lies.
Leo King
ultra memetic
Joshua Flores
>It is system designed as anti-thesis of "consuming content" >a game that releases content that you're not supposed to experience
Christopher Ross
The necrons are BAWLD and FEWLISH if the think they can stand up to the EMPRAH'S SPESS MEHREENS
Leo Torres
You're adorable, user.
Levi Cruz
off yourself
William Baker
Do yourself a favor and just highwake out if you don't want to blow up the NPC chasing you.
Joshua Rodriguez
They rolling shit back or naw
Gabriel Clark
No shit, it's wonderful how this is the only option left. I didn't play for long but I'm guessing that the Anaconda got a nerf since I'm not seeing others having this issue in Vultures.
Liam Robinson
Maia is going to be rip in pepperoni
Nathan Anderson
>tfw you will never get 80 class 3 multicanon bullets through your apartment window as a wake up call
Parker Turner
I'm in a vulture and I can USUALLY destroy whatever attacks me, unless its better than dangerous and is in dropship or better.
Dominic Stewart
Who the hell smuggles in open, anyway?
Cameron Cooper
me my good mate
Grayson Hill
i smuggled for half a billion in open
open or bust
Zachary Brooks
I do, I never fucking see anyone anyway.
Juan James
>We're still alive
Holy shit I can't believe it. Keep it going, my dudes.
Sebastian Gutierrez
Nobody ever interdicts you in open anyway because unless you're carrying over twenty million on your head, nobody bothers.
Levi Hall
bounty caps at 1 million so not even that is a reason.
Jace Torres
Have they updated the faction system? Can I be pledged to Hudson and still get in good terms with anarchists and piratefags?
Thomas Young
*my dads
fxd
Ian Jackson
/edg/ is eternal
Zachary Kelly
to who ever was asking about home system, did you end up finding my suggestion?
Andrew Sanders
Every update for which Fdevs askin to buy Horizons should be free. It's not content, it's fucking features that should be in full game. The only thing that makes sence for DLC is engeniers. Shit like land on planets, walk around your ship, creat a commander(I hope we can create qt grill) should be in the main game. Just look at GTA Online R* is adding features ad content for Free because it should be free
Nolan Richardson
delkar is nice
Jaxon Sanchez
They shoul also start selling Shark cards.
Dominic Clark
>followed all the dads at the other side of the galaxy >making my way back to bubble >still ~60000 ly from sol >not wanting to suicide because of all that sweet exploration data >then i read about the batshit AI
i guess i'll take my time then...
Lucas Rivera
Game already has microtransactions. And what do you care let the dads buy credits if that gives us free stuff then I have no problems with it
Nolan White
indeed cmdr
+rep
Easton Williams
>microtransactions do you know what this means?
i hate their market model as much as the next guy but a cosmetics shop is not a microtransaction system.
Justin Morales
WHY RANDOM FUCKS ARE SPAMMING MY INBOX WITH SALVAGE MISSIONS
MAKE IT STOP
Dominic Jenkins
Everything is broken. I was having bounties and shit disappear. One time everything disappeared and I had a 5 million credit bounty put on me for no reason. After getting interdicted around 45 times I eventually died. My bounties and fines went back to normal, then I visited a station and I ended up with a 3 million credit dormant bounty.
I can never visit Quince again. Mostly because I uninstalled this shitheap game. It isnt going to get better, posting in this thread is the only fun thing left to do.
Posted this in the old thread like a moron.
Joshua Sanders
I've never experienced this, but I do have several dozen 'expired' mission offer messages that I can't seem to delete.
Kayden Murphy
holy shit how broken is this game?
>do imperial rank mission, become serf >(btw why does my rank in the empire depend on me doing illegal shit? that's weird >get a message about being promoted to squire >still 66% serf
wat
Hunter Moore
People will interdict you at CGs but that's about it. I got interdicted by some fag in a Vulture at the last CG. I dont even know what he wanted. I asked him and he responded with "HEY WHATS UP". So I shot him.
Isaiah Davis
I still can't get my Sirius permit.
Before 2.1 the reputation progress with sirius corp was bugged never rising above friendly. >2.1 comes out >finally reach allied with them >grab the permit mission >details will follow via your inbox cmdr ;) >still no details >still no permit
Justin Phillips
Whatever you want to call it. You can still buy cosmetics stuff in full priced game
John Morris
So now all of Sothis missions are like this, is it worth getting a type 9 and just loading up on these? Asp seems so shit now the cargo requirement is so high. Or would it be better getting a Python? I only have 150ish million at the moment.
Daniel Roberts
Wait, is that the same type of missions that robigo had? The ones that fail upon scanning?
Easton Collins
Nah these are just some delivery missions that pay as much as smuggling but with much higher cargo requirements it seems. Only ones I'm getting though.
Dylan Lewis
Shit, my man, grabbing my Python and heading out.
Logan Lopez
Should mention that some missions spawn AI that interdict you, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was with smuggling. Only had 1 NPC try to interdict me out of 30ish missions.
Do you mind sharing your Python loadout?
Jason Carter
I haven't specced it for hauling yet. Tinking of grabbing a t9 but don't want to loose money on hull tax.
Isaac Price
>8M for 88 units not bad
Grayson Carter
lets just hope they fixed the exploration data bug
ya, I'm struggling to decide what to take. Can afford both. The builds aren't fantastic but they let you take as much cargo as possible + enough fuel to make a non stop trip to and from the bubble.
Ayden Walker
What does the bug do? Give you less money?
Samuel Parker
>grinding for RNGineer materials >get bored, decide to try a threat 2 USS since ive not done any yet >3 condas >message telling me to leave or else >they open fire before i can finish reading it >dead before my boost kicks in
dont know if it tops out at 4 or 5 but if threat 0 means theres nothing and 2 is 3 hostile anacondas whats at the top?
Evan Parker
after 2.1 people have been having their exploration data get wiped when they landed at a station. FD were working on a fix, dont know if its out yet but i havent heard any reports of it recently. but most people it would affect are probably still hiding from 2.1 outside the bubble
Austin Barnes
do you have any links whatsoever to prove this is an actual thing?
Brayden Roberts
a capital ship
jumping into threat 5 never ends well.
Jeremiah Jones
Stuck on the same shit as is everyone else Damn, but remember that these missions often require medium ships as the target's dont have large pads.
Ryan Peterson
a couple /edg/elords mentioned it in the first post 2.1 thread
I posted the outpost, because it was where I went and found them first. Went to the station, newholm station it's called iirc, in sothis and they had similar missions.
Lincoln Morales
seems it was fixed
Brody Garcia
Oh and I should also add the missions I've been getting have only sent me to stations so far. No outposts in 40+ missions.
Owen Richardson
>jumped by two wings of three cheating PP eagle AI this shit is so broken
Levi Wood
I thought im a total scrub for only able to deal with threat 1 sources. I tried threat 2 but they'll always end up with me having to run
Luke Baker
Where does one go to grind for Fed rank?
Aaron Turner
I am starting to believe Pecisk actually posts these
Xavier Turner
17 draconis during starvation
Tyler Long
>jumped in and out four times >happens every time ok, what the fuck. why is braben cheesing so hard? it's literally not possible to deal with this many cheating AI
Bentley Allen
>tfw no anaconda or corvette to pretend to be a starship captain in i NEED IT
Lucas Harris
anyone know of a hudson exploited or controlled system with resource sites?
preferably close to mehet since i was over there to do the community goal
Connor Adams
How hard is it to make completely randomized ship loadouts for NPC's? And have like the higher ranking the more chances of having A graded modules. Every time I engage any ship it feels like they all are A graded PLUS it feels like they use fixed hardpoints and they barely ever miss with lasers, mini-guns. NPC are OP as fuck, they should be difficult buy having competent piloting skills not OP modules and rediculous maneuverability.
Adam Brooks
Is the slave trade alive in Fehu?
Jordan Gray
I was there earlier and I was getting nothing. Might just be me, but I was there for over 45 minutes swapping between open and solo.
Asher Long
If slave trade is kill then what's probably the best way to earn credits fast at this point? Trading?
Henry Jackson
So is the AI broken or did the Anaconda get nerfed into oblivion?
Jason Jenkins
I know that HIP 93377 has a station near a ring with both hi and haz res. The same system where the turreting took place
Eli Jackson
You'd be right. I was also curious about this, and by examining the relative speed differences between my A ranked vulture and vairous NPCs, DPS on shields, ect, I've learned that every single NPC spawned has at the very least A ranked thrusters, shields, power distributors, and power plants. Some NPCs have exhibited even higher statistics than are normally possible for players.
I've also discovered that harmless-competent tends to have C ranked weapons, competent-master tend to have B ranked weapons, and master-elite tend to have A ranked weapons. Some elite NPCs have exhibited MUCH higher dps on their weapons than what should be possible.
Note that this is merely a tendancy. You CAN get a harmless NPC with a hypothetical 'S' ranked weapon (meaning doing more than should be possible), with a bad RNG roll.
NPCs also will almost ALWAYS use fixed weapons with a pseudo-aimbot. They will essentially never miss you unless you can turn out of their firing arc faster than their ship can correct it.
They also ignore heat accumulated from your weapon damage and any SCBs they use.
In short: NPCs cheat like bastards, more than is readily apparent.
Noah Ortiz
Fuck knows dude, I've been grinding whatever cargo delivery missions I can fit into my Asp at Sothis. They pay the same as smuggling, but it seems like you have to have a much bigger cargo hold for a lot of them, see But, like I said, it might just be me in regards to Fehu, maybe RNG just fucked me over with mission generation.
Nathan Robinson
>used to do long range smuggling in my asp >an npc eagle would somehow be able to make the same jumps as my asp, and would follow me from system to system
the npc's have always cheated, this is not new. 2.1 just made it all the more obvious.
Sebastian Thomas
Anyone wanna coop just started a new profile
Adrian Hernandez
once multi-crew comes in you can be my first mate, user
you can even sleep in the captains quarters with me if you want
Hudson Morales
>coop Fuck that m8 I I could transfer you 100m I would just to save you your time
Wyatt Foster
>commander creator and multicrew comes out >thread gets shitposted into oblivion by waifufaggots
Gabriel Morris
But I want to play the game 4 fun :DDDDD
Landon Sanchez
>Aisling copilot >all the lewdposting and pastebins to come can't wait
Jackson Flores
whats the best ERP location?
Nolan Sanchez
hutton orbital
Samuel Reed
eravate
Hunter Flores
Delicious
Nicholas Martin
to any /edg/elords looking to group up
how does rotanev system sound? high tech refinery, surrounded by delanie territory, not too close to autismland but not too far
we could even make a minor faction
Cooper Richardson
everywhere, FD fucks everyone
Brayden Kelly
I've already watched /ss13g/ descend into a waifu trainwreck of a general that barely discusses the game. I'm not doing it again.
Hunter Brooks
All the bitches love Sag A, as it reminds them of their own cooters, black sucking holes of despair.
Isaac Wood
Just had a Python spamming SCBs for a minute while shooting double PACs.
Also, fuckers are hellbent on ramming you.
Nathaniel Jones
>waifufaggots >all females in the game look like geriatric meth addicts yeah nah
Justin Carter
we will be sharing sliders soon enough
Blake Walker
Just started playing this again after a few months. Have SCBs been nerfed into oblivion or something? Mine don't seem to do anything (not even exaggerating).