/khg/ - Kingdom Hearts General

>Sora's ability to wield his own Keyblade is independent of Ven
so where does it come from then?

So how come it didn't release when Sora impaled himself with the keyblade at Hollow Bastion to release Kairi's heart?

Sora earned the right to wield the Keyblade via the strength and merits of his own heart. He's the notable exception to one of the rules of the Inheritance Ceremony.

I tried. In my defense, I have no idea how steady your hand is.

Though if you think about it, the very first Keyblade wielders had to get their ability from somewhere.

I'm gonna say it's because he didn't know about it/forgot about it at the time. The true answer is probably because Nomura hadn't thought that far ahead yet.

Sora stole the Kingdom Key from Riku, to whom it originally belonged.

We saw him earn the KK for himself in KH1.

Ven has nothing to do with it.

Thanks fàm, it's better than what I can do on my phone.

stole?
and how did riku earn it if it was stolen from him?

Because Ventus and Xehanort and everything that came out after KH1 didn't exist when they wrote the game. Instead of trying to write a sequel they decided to write some awful time travel prequel midgame and sort of sequel nonsense to try and make it seem like any of this makes sense.
How do you steal a keyblade from someone though? Especially if that someone never knew they could have the keyblade and apparently had a stronger heart up until the moment where Sora earns it back.

Did you not play Birth By Sleep? Riku got the ability from Terra in that game as a 5 year old. He fucked up on the strength of heart requirement that night on DI and Sora reaches into the darkness, touches his light and "takes" Kingdom Key.

The Keyblade was originally supposed to go to Riku but he straddled the line between being courageous enough to face the darkness and opening his heart to the darkness. Sora is there and takes it, despite it rightfully being Riku's Keyblade, on account of Terra passing it down to him.

>How do you steal a keyblade from someone though? Especially if that someone never knew they could have the keyblade and apparently had a stronger heart up until the moment where Sora earns it back.

>---Even though Riku was the rightful owner of the Keyblade, then why did Sora obtain the Keyblade in the beginning?
>Nomura: Even though I would like to keep that obscure, there is a scene in Destiny islands where Riku is being swallowed by darkness, a light appears, and Sora first obtains the keyblade. With the setting I created, the darkness that surrounds them is Riku’s heart’s darkness. At that moment, Sora enters the darkness, and the light he sees inside is Riku’s heart’s light. Sora, who was squirming in the darkness to save Riku, touched the light and temporarily obtained the Keyblade from Riku.
>---Does not the Keyblade itself choose its owner?
>Nomura: The Keyblade reacts to the rightful owner’s heart and appears to them. Even though it was definitely Riku who called the Keyblade towards him, the reason why Sora was able to weild it was because he also had the right qualities too.
>kh-ultimania.livejournal.com/3508.html

>How do you steal a keyblade from someone though?
On complete accident.

>---Even though Riku was the rightful owner of the Keyblade, then why did Sora obtain the Keyblade in the beginning?
Nomura: Even though I would like to keep that obscure, there is a scene in Destiny islands where Riku is being swallowed by darkness, a light appears, and Sora first obtains the keyblade. With the setting I created, the darkness that surrounds them is Riku’s heart’s darkness. At that moment, Sora enters the darkness, and the light he sees inside is Riku’s heart’s light. Sora, who was squirming in the darkness to save Riku, touched the light and temporarily obtained the Keyblade from Riku.
>---Does not the Keyblade itself choose its owner?
Nomura: The Keyblade reacts to the rightful owner’s heart and appears to them. Even though it was definitely Riku who called the Keyblade towards him, the reason why Sora was able to weild it was because he also had the right qualities too.

kh-ultimania.livejournal.com/3508.html

When are we getting this?

fuckin hivemind

Who's 'we'?

Japan might get it around E3, but there's no definitive date given.

We'll probably get it ages from now.

so because riku 'wasn't afraid of the darkness' and sora was full of light he got to use the kingdom key?
So despite being told throughout the games riku is stronger that one moment in KH proved to us and the keyblade that his heart was stronger and so riku loses the kingdom key forever and sora gains it completely?

Well I meant went it was being released so we could get a look at Aqua's new model.

Wow that Starlight adamite quest was a bitch. Tinkerbell really came in clutch with the cura though.

>so because riku 'wasn't afraid of the darkness' and sora was full of light he got to use the kingdom key?
That's not what really happened there.
>so riku loses the kingdom key forever and sora gains it completely?
Kingdom Key is permanently Sora's now. Riku went on his redemption arc and his own Keyblade now.

No idea. They might "reveal" it soon since they got the 10k retweets they wanted in about two and a half hours.

...

No one has figured this out yet? Considering KH fans are the kind of fans that would have compared it to every character model by now, this has to be a new character, right?

what? its aqua dude.

It's obviously Aqua. We knew the second we saw it.

We knew it was Aqua as soon as it was posted. That user is just doing that for shits and giggles.

It's Aqua.

It's Aqua from 0.2

She's holding Master Keeper.

Well now I just feel foolish. That was my first thought, but the hair looked too short to me.

IT'S PIKACHU!

what color gauges are the new raid boss/omega?

All it is her doing this pose with her new model and Master Keeper

main body is green, there's a limb with very low HP that's also green, and a limb with moderate HP that's red (at least on Omega 1 and Omega 2)

>so because riku 'wasn't afraid of the darkness' and sora was full of light he got to use the kingdom key?
it's more like riku let the darkness overcome him, and sora sought the light and desired to help his friend. riku gave up and sora didn't.

>riku gave up
ok but this is the part i'm iffy on at that early on he seemed really sure of himself kinda like he's falling to the darkness but not enough for a keyblade to forsake him over.
oh and it definitely didn't look like giving up.

It's more like embracing the darkness rather than giving up. He gave up in the sense that he didn't try to fight it.

>he seemed really sure of himself kinda like he's falling to the darkness but not enough for a keyblade to forsake him over.
Considering that we know that Riku was EXTREMELY jealous of Sora this is probably what didn't help that situation. I'd say extreme jealously would be a weakness.

My theory is actually that Xehanort's heart acts as a sort of hivemind. He might not directly control them (though we know he can assume direct control with Young Xehanort) but he sort of guides them and gives them knowledge?

Like say Xehanort as a whole needs Xemnas to do something. Suddenly Xemnas in KH2 will know what to do and travel to the future, do the thing and then return to the past. He won't remember what he just did but the Xehanort Hivemind will.

I think that's why he wants fragments of himself in everyone. So he can use that to transcend time and "control" 13 versions of him that are still kinda him. It also kinda implies that if all are beaten and the hearts are ripped, Xehanort would become even more overpowered as they join together again. Even in BBS we can assume parts of his heart are in Vanitas and Briag, making him weaker.

This was kinda much the implication made in 3D.

It took me a while to come to that conclusion though since the game never hints at it if you ask me. It keeps saying Young Xehanort brought everyone together but that could only be a one time thing some YX goes back to his time and forgets everything again.

The heart hivemind was the only I could figure to create a scenario where someone like Xemnas would know he can and should time travel to a point after his death.

Even then, there has to be a Xehanort there to act as a portal so they could actually end it by taking down the reformed Terranort, Briag and whoever of the apprenctices got Norted.

Well, as far as taking control of Young Xehanort is concerned, that happened because Master Xehanort hadn't fully completed yet, and effectively transferred his consciousness during the Stopza.

I don't think that Young Xehanort or Ansem, SoD have been "norted" the way Braig was. They already have Xehanort's heart.

But otherwise, that makes sense.

>It took me a while to come to that conclusion though since the game never hints at it if you ask me
I got that implication as soon as Xigbar went into his spiel.
>"Xemnas and Xehanort formed the Organization for a specific reason—round up a bunch of empty husks, hook them up to Kingdom Hearts, then fill them all with the exact same heart and mind. Translation—they were gonna turn all the members into Xehanort."

Protip: The white stroke they added to hide where they clunkily pasted the render into the medal makes cutting it out with photoshop's autoselect easy as fuck.

heyeeyeyyy guize it's me ur ol pal sora here with a news update

the plot of KH3 revolves around me coming down with a severe case of Down's Syndrome and trying to find the cure

so what do you think Sora's/Riku's Families are doing during all this? They dead?

>Lastly, while Sora and others were gone, time had stopped for the people on the world of Destiny Islands - on the night of the storm in the first game, the Islands were wiped out. After that, the only reality for them for the year that Sora slept was that 'Riku vanished on the night of the storm', as all their memories of Sora himself had disappeared. Those memories inside them of Sora did return when Sora awakened, but in the end their memories regarding Sora simply matched those of Riku - that they had both vanished ever since the night of the storm
>khinsider.com/news/A-Look-Back-Director-s-Secret-Report-XIII-4883

Yeah, but the game always glosses over why he's doing this. At first I was assuming he was overwriting their personaliteit, but Xigbar was still distinctily himself so that got me confused.

It's kinda weird that he re-fused as Master Xehanort considering it was Terranort who was turned into Xemnas and SoD.

Though, I think Xehanort being able to assume direct control makes the Norts even more dangerous. Young Xehanort shouldn't have anything close to the experience needed to fight Riku but as soon as Xehanort took over, he was putting up a good fight. So in KHIII, if one of his Norts is backed into a corner, the hivemind can give them Super Xehanort powers. Kinda scary if you add that extra power already overpowered characters like Terranort or Vanitas.

Do you happen to know what kind of blur/effect is on pic related? I want to try to put that filter on Mickey.

For reaction image purposes.

>At first I was assuming he was overwriting their personaliteit, but Xigbar was still distinctily himself so that got me confused.
I think it depends. Saix and Axel's interactions in Days implies and straight up say at some points that he used to be way different and changed. And then when you compare Isa to Saix you can tell something is up with him.

>every Nort fight has a second phase for Super Nort
mite b cool

>Young Xehanort shouldn't have anything close to the experience needed to fight Riku
Ya think?
He manages to give two Master-level wielders a lot of trouble in BBS with just his energy blades.

Looks like a Zoom Blur

Maybe it's easier if someone is a Nobody to overwrite them? Xigbar got the Xehanort heart years before he became a Nobody after all. Saix probably got it after he become a Nobody.

Yeah, it's funny how he's so strong in BBS. I mean, we can assume he time travelled to that point thanks to Master Xehanort being there, but how much experience could he have at that point? He even says that he had never left the island when SoD visited him in 3D.

Though on the other hand, we have no idea when in the timeline this YX came to visit MX. For all we know, the YX we fight in BBS is the one from the end KHIII after fighting Sora and RIku couple of times.

On the other hand, YX couldn't beat the three wielders in BBS since he can't alter events that are destined to happen. If he did kill one of the BBS trio, the events of BBS couldn't happen.

Who is your favorite Kingdom Hearts original character? and why>

>Maybe it's easier if someone is a Nobody to overwrite them? Xigbar got the Xehanort heart years before he became a Nobody after all. Saix probably got it after he become a Nobody.
That's what I got from Xigbar's statement and the fact that Xemnas was lying to most of the members to keep them empty/regrowing replacement hearts.
Xigbar, Xemnas, Saix, Lexeaus, Riku, and Aqua. Xemnas and Saix the most because I find them to be tragic characters in a way.

Yes, I love it.

how is saix a tragic character? pls explain

Mostly the crumbling of his friendship with Axel/Lea along with his desperation for his heart in KH2. And then there's the theory fan headcanon that he and Lea were experimented on when they tried to get into the castle again.

New sora is ugly as fuck, wouldntmindiftheartistwasfired/10

Can you cut these out of their medals too?

Not necessarily with the blur, unless it looks better that way

One furry and edgy pepe as ordered.

Thanks fām

Remember, raid in two hours.

Which Nort is the creepiest /khg/?

Xuba.

Old Nort'. The other ones are various levels of fuckable.

Old Xehanort looks like Mr. Clean fucked a goblin.

>Old Nort
>not fuckable

Saix always kinda creeped me out.

Silent/restrained psycho types give me the heebie jeebies.

I didn't really get psycho vibes, at least not the traditional ones.

So what level whale is everyone fighting? I just killed a lvl 7

So in 358/2 Days, was Organization XIII Building an artificial Kingdom Hearts out of the Heartless hearts? Or getting hearts to "Summon" a way into Kingdom Hearts?

TEN MINUTES LADS

This starlight admantine quest is destroying me. I spent all of my materials on the other blades and now I cant use it to beat this. I am fucked.

Using Starlight for that mission just gets you some avatar coins, you only need to complete it without continuing to get the Adamantite.

>was Organization XIII Building an artificial Kingdom Hearts out of the Heartless hearts?
Yes.

The Heartless take (or are made from) the hearts of people.

Kingdom Hearts (the real one) is a complete unity of all the hearts of worlds and people.
Xemnas and the Organization were slaying Heartless to collect the hearts they held in order to complete their artificial Kingdom Hearts.

But this ends up being a ruse, right? Since Xemnas knew they had hearts from the start.

>Since Xemnas knew they had hearts from the start.
No they didn't. The only confirmed person who had a heart from the start would be Roxas, technically. Everyone else had to capacity to regrow a replacement heart, and it wasn't a sure thing that some of them had even started that process.

Xemnas knew that Nobodies can grow replacement hearts.

The idea was to use Kingdom Hearts to fill everyone with the SAME heart, not just any old heart or their original hearts.

So is double lux actually working? I can't really tell, though the other perks are active.

Inb4 they don't reveal the medal in 1 hour, they'll just say "You did it!" and then say stay tuned for later details.

So what exactly is Kingdom Hearts and why does Xemnas want it?

To nort the rest of the organization.

Why is Aqua the best in every regard?

What do you guys think these two woulda done after killing Xemnas off? Marluxia is just flat and not much is known but Larxene outright said in the novel she doesn't want a heart.

It's said they did grow attached because they thought the Organization was "boring" and "dull"

Namine is a really really good medal. Was having trouble with this Adamantine quests until I brought her with me. Copied the enemies atk and def buff and it made all the difference.

i would FUCK larxene

Yo haven touched the game in a while. Thinking of getting back into it just to see if this world is fake or not already. Any parties I can join? My current one is bleh.

Anyone else suspect they might be the oldest person in their party? I don't like this feeling