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T8-T10 battleships, they deal quite a lot of damage, can sustain HE damage and they're capable of repairing a huge portion back.

Shimakaze detection buffs when? I can deal with the shit torps and the shit guns and the huge turning circle, but the least I could ask for is to see the ships that hard counter me coming before they do.

Good morning user!

US DD's. They keep enemy DD's under control, and once you've dealt with them you're free to use your own torps to be a cunt to their BB's.

Let's buff a ship that can outsail any other ship and remain undetected while detecting everything else around it.

Use your guns while running away. They do a pretty hefty amount of damage.

Smoke and speed boost your way out if necessary. Like when the entire enemy fleet is nearby.

>the least I could ask for is to see the ships that hard counter me coming before they do

If a baBBie said that he'd be told to use the WASD hacks.

IJN BBs. They're all great.

Burger DDs you are my greatest ally
t. T10 BB

Both BB lines up to T8. After that it's just diminishing returns in terms of fun.

ARP Myoko and maybe grinding for a 5th skill.

If a baBBy said anything they'd be told to use the WASD hacks.
Apparently it's a fix-all for every situation.

>Let's buff a ship that can outsail any other ship
Is this summer 2015? Literally every Soviet Destroyer after Kiev outsails the Shimakaze in top speed.
>and remain undetected while detecting everything else around it
Its detection is the same as Gearing and worse than Fletcher. You know, the ships with better torps and better guns. It's also outspotted by its immediate predecessors, though that's less of an issue.

Using my guns gives them and the Moskva inevitably on the other team more time to shoot me while I'm spotted. Speed boost just makes you outrun your smoke, especially if you're dodging their fire.

>Literally every Soviet Destroyer after Kiev outsails the Shimakaze in top speed.
They can also outspeed CV torps which is pretty hilarious to watch.

Typical baBButism mentality

>if I don't angle, it's the destroyer's fault for hitting me with torps!
>if I don't angle, it's the cruiser's fault for hitting me with HE!
>if I don't snipe behind my team, I'll take damage and pay a huge bill!

>tfw I'm always the DD escorting and defending BB's
>tfw I have no DD div friend to escort me while playing BB's myself

t.shitter with no t8+ BBs

13% survival rate

>le ebing WASD hacks meme xdddd
Fucking stupid meme. The torpedo soup problem is that sometimes there are just too many torps at the same time to evade them all. You change course to pre-emptively evade a possible torp wave, and you are successful. But then you run into another one that was not aimed at you.

The worst of all is that you usually never get hit by torps. But they force teams to play in a very passive manner, which means they won't follow through whenever you try to push or do something that is not blobbing up with them around the base.

>angling affecting HE and fires
I don't know why BBs don't just WASD away the fires caused by getting focus fired by 3+ T10 CAs more often

I don't know baBButistic players can't disengage, possibly not because they're mentally deficient!?

I assume his argument is that angling provides a smaller profile than going full broadside. While it's true, I wouldn't argue that the benefit is anything more than marginal at best.

>turn 180°
>Pop smoke
>Keep going and see if you broke LoS with the one spotting you

Usually saves me in bucky.
>Pop speedboost and keep running away.

But user I'm not who you think I am.

>be dumb baBBie
>shit up thread with avatarfagging
>complain about shitposting when they shitpost the most
>cry about everything because they can't instant delete everyone

Probably just a no-name -50% who gets a kick from triggering people by calling them shitters. He just keeps spouting forum-tier CAsual and baDDie arguments.

Ignore him and move on.

Yes, I played Fubuki too. And that's fine, but it works all of three times, after which you're going to be dodging shells every 3 seconds for quite a while until you outrun either Fletcher or Gearing. 41 knots is good, but it's still going to take some time to escape something going at 38 knots.

The reason high tier games are stale is because people don't know how to disengage, so they don't bother getting engaged in the first place. This results in those players max range sniping till the timer runs out.

>you can now spectate floatplanes

neato

gtfo bad_arcade_shitty.

Tell your team what to do, you can communicate or are you socially inept for that as well?

>took the bait
Fug

Try disengaging in a ship that takes over 30 seconds to turn around, and be sure to remain angled the entire time so you don't get citpenned or expose yourself to torpedoes.

Fail div is a form of griefing, no matter how you slice it. Can't believe WG justified this cancer with "muh social interaction".
Sometimes I wonder if playing this game is worth the stress it caused.

>BB disengages because they can't soak fire from half the enemy team forever and have no support
>start complaining that they're a coward who's not doing their job

Use prem consumables. Now it's four times.

>be (You)
>notice your team isn't near you
>go in and die
>complain about bad teammates, HE fire, torps (how torps hit you at 20 km range is beyond me) etc

Pottery

The torpedo soup isn't even that big of a problem these days, even in the odd game where there's like 8 DDs on the enemy team because of the high tier IJN DD nerfs.
But the mentality of not risking pushing and just sitting back has remained because people know that they're unlikely to get any support even if they do try to push, so therefore nobody does.

baBButists don't push because they fear torpedoes, they do it because they think it's the right thing to do with 25+ km range.

They really need to add the easy command menu like in WoT. I really miss being able to call allies specifically by username and tell them to "follow me" or "fall back." I imagine it'd be really useful in the Asia and EU servers too where there's a huge language barrier.

>trying to force 'baBButists' this hard

You can force anything on this general lmao just look at

>4x2

There's already some inbuilt commands in the game, I don't know if it's like WoT's because I haven't played WoT since like 2013 or something but it doesn't seem like the average player really listens to it anyway, outside of maybe the 'focus this dude' command.

>mfw I embrace the gunbote bucky lyfe
>invisi firing on cruisers and BB's
>wrecking DD's who think I'm easy prey
>51k average with little use of torps

>Bucky-Chan is a little odd

I actually think people pay those commands more attention. Mostly because they have sound, unlike WoT. But so far I haven't found the one for "follow me". F7'ing an ally just asks everyone to support him, not for him to follow you.

warships.today is down or loading slow for anyone else?

I last played in late 2013 as well, but if you had xvm to see who was at least competent, most greens, blues and purples will usually work with you if you communicate them by name.

What we have currently is the quick voice menu on the F(X) keys (which WoT has as well), but it doesn't have other commands and can't be customized with mods. I can't tell a specific ship to come with me, or tell them to stay back.

battleships should spend the time between reloads typing elaborate strategies into chat.

Wow I finished the Kirishima mission and it hasn't been awarded yet, literally WTF?

seems to be ded for me too

>teams are nothing but heavy tanks and TD's
good memories

Yokosuka port, dumbfuck.

>try to talk to my team between reloads
>met with nothing but boxes and moonrunes in response

>being racist

Serves you right.

>met with silence or disagreement

Well I'm speaking in general. As a DD I think it's helpful to ask a cruiser to cover my retreat or that I'm popping smoke, or to tell an IJN DD that I've already been spotted and there's somebody else nearby. As a cruiser it'd be helpful to mark incoming planes to a BB or tell them to get close. With mod support WoT's menu could still individually name people and show icons, but still have customized commands. It was one of the more convenient and intuitive parts of WoT, especially compared to more advanced but difficult to use quick commands like Tribes' VGS.

what

>T5 and T3 div getting matched into a T9 game
What?
I don't understand what they did wrong here. The very worst they should be able to see is T7, right?

And what, pray tell, is a tier 3 going to do against a tier 7?

Apart from very extenuating circumstances (i.e. a Lo Yang or Kamikaze R with a good captain with a higher-tier ship), divisions should be a +1/-1 spread at worst.

maybe they were with a T7 div to start off with but he left the div? I have no idea if that still shows up on the end screen or not

>met with silence, disagreement or outright suiciding into the enemy team just to spite me for trying to order them around.

Gotta love NA pubbies.

They were divisioned with a Benson. The Benson left the division after he died.

I think he's more talking about how the fuck a T5-high division gets into a T9 game, that flat out shouldn't be possible

Wait, I didn't read properly, you're right.
why are they seeing Tier 9s?

>pubbies

Kill yourself

It's a little bit fucked, but hardly unforgivable. This is assuming the T5 would be getting in a T7 game to begin with!
Oh. Fuck that.

This makes me want to div Umikaze with T10s

>Lo Yang
I don't really see how a Lo Yang in a higher tier div could really be an issue, same with just about any T8 ship really. It's different in WoT because they have T9/10 and T10 only games that dragging a T8 into is a disadvantage, but because of WoWs' low T9 and 10 population every single game is going to have a bunch of T8s no matter what.

Alright you stupid fucks, have some goddamn game discussion for once.

Here are the new USN BB modules, previewed on the Iowa on PT server.

I have no fucking clue where that guy who copied the patch notes from EU got his shit from, but these stats are pretty much consistent with the leddit post from yesterday.

It's also safe to assume that Hotel won't be getting the extra range as her range and dispersion mods are different.

We wouldn't be having this discussion at all if teams could communicate effectively.

>-70% to the risk of your ship's magazine detonation
Seems a little redundant given the flag.

>Main Armaments Modification I
DDs wet dream.

>It's also safe to assume that Hotel won't be getting the extra range as her range and dispersion mods are different.
thank fuck for that

forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/82800-057-patch-notes-from-eu/

Where were you the day that IJN BBs died?

>Where were you the day that IJN BBs died?
Explain.

How about you actually cross check those "copied" notes with what's actually on the test server right now? Especially since the post with the actual test server stats explicitly mentioned the post you linked as being full of shit.

>Artillery Plotting Room Modification 1 (+16% to main battery maximum firing range; -20% to maximum dispersion of secondary battery shells). This upgrade will be available only for US battleships

>This upgrade will be available only for US battleships

Aw shit nigga I can't wait to use that secondary upgrade that reduces dispersion :^)

Are these modules availible for all the USN BB line?

Some of them modules are nice.

I hope all ships get some more options like this instead of picking the same 3/4.

>can't wait to use that secondary upgrade that reduces dispersion :^)
But -dispersion mod already exists

Only Montana

Ignoring the fact that the actual test server shows differently to what's in that post
>Added Upgrades:
>Aiming Systems Modification 1 (+20% to secondary battery maximum firing range; -20% to maximum dispersion of secondary battery shells; +20% to the torpedo tubes traverse speed; -7% to maximum dispersion of main battery shells)
IJN would still have more accurate guns even with those changes.

So now Yamato can have 2 mods that increase secondaries range+skill+flag?
Whats the range of Yamato secondaries?

First column is all tiers

Second column is T5 and above

Third and fourth column are T9 and T10 only

Propulsion is T6 and above

The artillery plotting room mods are exclusive to USN BB, everything else gets main battery mods, which have the order reversed (dispersion at T5 then range at T9) and have slightly different stats

fug I'm a dummie and though that the burgers wouldn't have been able to mount both for whatever reason, never mind either way because that post is unreliable anyway

7km if I remember correctly

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Thanks.

Looks like CV going to have a harder time with more AA buffs.

7km*1.2*1.2*1.2=12.1km and that's without flag. dispersion*0.8*0.8=0.64 of standard secondaries dispersion and that's without T5 skill.

Am I missing something here? Or is Sushi sister going to have some fun with secondaries?

>multiplicative
I thought all the modifiers were additive for that?

AA mods are multiplicative, so I always assumed that secondaries are also. I don't have high tier IJN BB

Zao will burn you to crisp before you enter secondaries range.