Rome's contribution to the sciences, medicine and religion is laughable, the only fields that they contributed anything to is engineering, philosophy and poetry.
3 FUCKING FIELDS, yet they existed for over 1000 years
hahaha woah dude you really baited me then I sure am trolled
Jason Hughes
>roman >philosophy
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Owen Martinez
You mean 500 years?
Bentley Butler
explain fucking caesar?
Yeah, exactly what I fucking thought.
Owen Green
>Rome >fields
James Lee
Posting in an epic thread Screencapping this so I can post it on Veeky Forums in 25 years
Camden Carter
Roman Republic died shortly after him.
Grayson Cook
What is roman stoicism ? What is neo-platonism ?
Isaiah Lopez
those were not existent iufn romae
Aiden Morgan
> What is roman stoicism ? Latin translation of Greek Stoicism. > What is neo-platonism ? A school of Greek philosophy.
Jason Ross
>sciences fair enough, still followed Aristotle's physical views. Utterly retarded, but they didn't know better
>medicine Obviously you have never heard of Galen of Pergamum. Court doctor to Marcus Aurelius and the best doctor until the 1500's
>Religion Greek copycats. But they did create a thing called 'Christianity'. Perhaps you have heard of it.
>Engineering Epic bridges, columns, statues, markets, ship building etc.
>Philosophy Mainly stoics. Which also is fine once you take out the dated metaphysics
>Poetry Silver age of literature. Not bad, it would take until the 1000's/1100s to match it
Logan Wood
Why does every empire or nation have to give us a load of scientific inventions to be great? Inventions are a post 18th century meme.
Rome essentially set the tone for Europe, the idea of an emperor, the idea of an empire, the idea of a republic, the idea of state armies, of roads, of trade networks, of grand building projects, of the imperial theme, of law and order, or citzenship and non citizenship, of national pride, of a senate.
Rome made Europe.
Carson Jones
Quite a few of those can be attributed to Classical Greece
Cooper Watson
You can pick any ten years from the delian league's existence and find more and better author than all of rome's existence, and that's just what's preserved
>waaaa Romans didn't engage in mythography and instead just made do with Greek myths, many themselves borrowed from the Middle East, so they didn't contribute to religion at all
fuck off and don't come back till you read some dumezil
Xavier Anderson
t. Carthage
Austin Lopez
>philosophy lmao, you mean Marcus-Aurelius' self-help book?
Make that two fields.
Grayson Watson
Next time you want to talk shit about Rome please do it in your own alphabet.
Jonathan Sullivan
Aeschylus
Ian Cook
>Obviously you have never heard of Galen of Pergamum. Court doctor to Marcus Aurelius and the best doctor until the 1500's Yeah, so good that he probably killed millions with his idea that most sicknesses should be cured by beeding.
Leo Ortiz
Europe is a shitty meme, which is fitting because so is the idea that we come from Rome.
Julian Edwards
>his idea >beeding Should have chose the play.
Carson Bailey
The barbarians never conquered Rome, as is generally believed. They simply became Romans, just as the Romans had become Greeks before them, and everyone is becoming Western now. The greater culture always conquers the lower in the long run, no matter what happens on the battlefield, because there's always been, and there always will be, a greater war than that between nations: that between individuals.
Noah Smith
Rome is glorious because they didn't just copy the idea, they applied it in a way never seen before. In a scale incomparable for centuries to come.
they should have conquered all of the mediterraneum and held it for a few centuries then, they barely got to test it
Samuel Martinez
So are we all Babylonians?
Aiden Anderson
Well the Greeks felt indebted to them and the Egyptians.
But I think the most important and powerful elements associated with the West originate only in Greece.
Jackson Fisher
>Roman Religion is exactly the same as Greek
when will this meme end
Roman religion was nothing like the soap opera fanfiction meant to amuse philosophers while a vast majority of the population ignored it completely like in Greece, Rome's interpretation of the gods was more abstract and more woven into the institutions and ideals of Rome, there is a reason Christianity took over relatively easily.
Leo Diaz
>the only fields that they contributed anything to is engineering, philosophy and poetry. You forgot about: 1. Law Thanks to the Theodosian and Justinian Codes, a compilation and cleanup of Roman law, the foundation of our current law system was available. Shit was pretty tight and made a large complex society functionally possible 2. Military Set the standard for how to train, equip, field and feed mass armies and weren't matched comparatively till over 1000 years afterwards. Tight organization was also bretty good 3. Government The United States and most modern countries' system of government is more based upon Roman republican ideologies than of Democratic Greek ones 4. Religion Highly complex monotheistic structure that has been continuously active ever since 5. Inventions Steam machinations, fucking concrete, medical instruments for military wounds, codexes
Nolan Brooks
Rome is sole reason for Christianity to be popular, even if it destroyed Rome in the end. How it isn't contribution?
Kayden Kelly
Did you steal that from the historical pepe thread?
Son of a bitch... This would have never happened back in 2014.
William Nguyen
No, thats the british empire, the greatest meme of them all.
Hudson Anderson
The roman empire was around for so long that they forgot half the stuff they invented
Tyler Cruz
>Roman """"""philosophy"""""" lol?
Nathan Ross
> he doesn't know about marcus aurelius > aka the only useful philosophy book ever > he probably an another unstoic whiny bitch
Ryder Lopez
>Marcus Aurelius >one of the biggest Hellenophiles in Roman history Tell me more ;-)
Alexander Wood
ayy lmao german filth, go back to your straw and wood camps
>muh holy roman empire
Luis Lewis
BASED A S E D
Brayden Price
...
Isaiah Russell
that's amazing
Luis Howard
>Romans >Creating Christianity I'm a Romeaboo btw
Adrian Sullivan
The German enlightenment era is underrated
Justin Sanchez
bump
Jose Morgan
"Roman, remember by your strength to rule Earth’s peoples—for your arts are to be these: To pacify, to impose the rule of law, To spare the conquered, battle down the proud."
Bentley Cruz
>even if it destroyed Rome in the end. But Rome spent half of its existance being Christian.
Liam Flores
Sit the Fuck down son.
Augustine was a Roman, Cicero, Porphry, Philo of Alexandria, All of the Church Fathers. Under Roman rule we had great writers like again Cicero and Lucretius, we had a level of sophistication not matched for centuries. The Roman state was just utterly beyond everything that followed it, so dramatically different. Name one other period in the ages that followed where a man armed with nothing but a family farm, a skill at oratory and a small amount of money could find himself with supreme executive authority before the enlightenment? Every base tenet of Christian philosophy was hammered out in Rome. Others here have mentioned Galen and a host of others, all of whom were at least as important as any of the greeks before them.
Rome built wonders of culture and of construction that we still revere. The saxons and many post Roman britons, after sufficient time, thought that abandoned Roman structures had to have been built by giants, for their sheer size.
Brody Parker
Rome was antiquity at its maximum potential, just like America is the modern age at its greatest
Jeremiah Rodriguez
Let's also not forget that most of what we know is thanks to the Romans. The Romans copied earlier works from Greece and then distributed them.
After Rome collapsed, monasteries began to reduplicate everything. Literally, without Rome we'd probably still believe in Thorr and have an oral tradition or, better yet, we'd look back at Persia for our antiquity.
Hudson Rivera
I wonder what a reformed Roman or Norse religion would look like.
Austin Flores
Julian attempted to organize pagan beliefs into a religion, I don't know how well it's documented but you might want to look at that.
Daniel Nelson
It's actually documented fairly (but not completely). in short, Julian made himself to be Helios, the sun god, and his high priests would become his governmental administrators.
Colton Bell
Salty colonist detected
Jaxon Gray
Slavoslav please.
The only relevant places are the big five and their pet countries. That's not Europe, it's Western Europe. And each one of those nations outshines Rome ten-fold.