In science we have the scientific method and in math we have proof. Why doesn't philosophy have a method of validating its results?
For a philosophical proposition we can neither provide evidence nor test it, and we can't prove it either. How do I - as a philosopher - know my reasoning is correct?
Mason Phillips
Math has more to do with philosophy than science
Evan Foster
Because our universe is bound by logical principles and facts.
If your argument is sound/valid, then your reasoning must therefore be correct.
R8 this justification as to why utilitarianism is a good moral philosphy to live by.
>Humans like being happy. >Humans generally even gain pleasure from making other human beings happy. >Utilitarianism teaches us that we should make the decision that causes the most amount of people to have the most amount to gain the most amount of happiness. >If you agree with the first two premises then you must therefore admit that utlitarianism is a pretty good moral philosophy to live by.
Unless I massively fucked up?
Grayson Roberts
>Unless I massively fucked up? You cannot quantify happiness.
Adrian Jenkins
Just because a lot of 17th century philosophers were also mathamaticians doesn't mean philosophy and maths relate to each other.
The reason they were involved in both fields was because they were educated people in the enlightenment and it was fashionable to do both.
Give me one reason how trigonomatry has fucking anything to do with morality.
Robert Thomas
>Give me one reason how trigonomatry has fucking anything to do with morality. Both deal with sin.
Jason Lopez
No you can't, but you can categorize it and that usually does the trick.
Jonathan Parker
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Wyatt Martinez
Are you implying philosophy has results
Christian Martinez
>In science we have the scientific method and in math we have proof.
Both derived from philosophical principles :^P
Charles Gonzalez
I was gonna make the exact same thread have a .
But yea, how come we do not test philosophy?
I do think there can be value in non-testable philosophy. But it shouldn't claim the prestige it likes to.
Ayden Richardson
As is, you just have a series of propositions arranged in a column, no logical relating between them. Among other things, you're missing a critical conditional statement to set up the syllogism and a proposition affirming the first clause of the conditional. Something like 'If we wish to make people happier on the whole, then we must accept that utilitarianism is a pretty good moral philosophy' 'We do wish to make people happier on the whole, therefore...' etc.
Parker Parker
>results
Anyway, philosophy also utilizes logical proof. Yes, even 'continental' philosophy. Just because you're required to do a bit of work to discover the argument doesn't mean it's not there.
Charles Kelly
This
Matthew Williams
dumb toadposter
Ayden Evans
>If the current president of the United States is Barack Hussein Obama, then the initiator of this thread has regular homosexual intercourse >The current president of the United States of America is Barack Hussein Obama >Therefore the initiator of this thread has regular homosexual intercourse
By modus ponens, a perfectly valid argument. What have we learned about the world?
Parker Lopez
1452167 >mentioning maths >talking about trig >doesnt even know about logic tables and muh mathematical logic
Graduate students who study formal logic arguably have a better sense of what makes a sound argument than the average individual.
Also, the Socratic method.
Anthony Parker
That a valid argument is not necessarily true. Since your initial premise was false then the argument is not true even though it is valid.
Daniel Russell
>hasn't heard of spinoza Hurrr
Hudson Kelly
There we gooooooooooooo.
Maybe also that
>If your argument is sound/valid, then your reasoning must therefore be correct.
is a tautology
Brandon Harris
The fact that Barack Hussein Obama is president, and that OP has regular homosexual intercourse are indisputable facts. But you can't draw necessary connexions between the two.
Cameron Edwards
>If your argument is sound/valid, then your reasoning must therefore be correct. Are you serious or just trolling? This was the argument of the ancient Greeks. Do you still hold onto views that are over 3000 years old?
Carson Rodriguez
>le utility monster
Ryan Wilson
utility monster is a real thing see feminism and positive racism
Mason Gomez
Formal logic, continentals get fucked
Jackson Rivera
lol continental fags BTFO
HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER
Cameron Garcia
Underrated
Leo Hughes
Nice one
Jack Rodriguez
How about the goal of utilitarianism is to maximize the median happiness rather than the total happiness. There, poof, utility monster gone, right?
Jaxon Wood
In philosophy we have razors, as well as formal and informal fallacies to help discern the verity of ethical and metaphysical claims. We look for rational consistency between tenets of views and it's entailments to decide if it's worth serious consideration. It requires very creative and convoluted reasoning to say anything philosophically profound in much of philosophy, which leads outsiders (like op) to think that there is no method at all.
Nolan Clark
We hold onto plenty of views that are more than 3,000 years old. You're using a logical fallacy
Nathan Long
ERROR: Plutocrat is experiencing too much happiness, must redistribute happiness to the center. Solution: Move 2 dozen homeless people into Plutocrat mansion, situation resolved.