/ps2g/ - PlanetSide 2 General

construction saved the game amirite

m8 construction doesn't add much to the conversation

Has anyone built a giant swastika base yet?
Or a huge cock 'n' balls deep inside vanu's tender territory?

I still don't believe all the people left for inferior general on an edgy reverse SJW Veeky Forums ripoff

i went there before and it was rather dead too

most people didn't, they just stopped playing

it looks less dead because it's not bumped off the board by fifty """esports""" or waifu game generals every 15 minutes

Slugs are only good just past the range where shotguns start to lose effectiveness. Equip either a 1x or a 4x scope depending on if you're going indoors or outdoors, aim down sights at all times even at point blank, only fire once the aim resets at longer ranges. obviously try to aim for headshots since headshots are a 2 hit kill at any range IIRC

At the ranges where the slugs turn your shotgun into a mini semiauto sniper rifle, they have so much drop and move so slowly that you're only going to be hitting maxes, spitfire turrets and Gustavo

>emerald
>vs always wins because tr ignores them almost completely and just fights nc

fucking communists

Also gauss saw is amazing

>ban the good boards
>reverse sjw

infini is distusting

>wins
Are we playing the same game?

ive been playing for 12 hours and so far vs has not lost a continent once except maybe hossen a couple times but who cares about hossen

>lost

"not lost" is another way of saying "won"

I know what you mean.

I took this screenshot a few weeks ago. 33/33/32 split, NC has 0 victory points, yet TR and VS are literally not fighting over a single territory.

I don't think it's meta or anything. I think they just both find NC easier to fight than deal with each others bullshit.

m8 are you retar
>NC
my condolences

What are you on about?

I've taken to lurking both. I definitely prefer here, but I don't think it was their general that killed it. Theirs is hardly more active than this one. I think the death was more from the broken dreams that came with construction being shit. People gave up.

I'd have honestly quit after construction, if it weren't for my outfit.

last generals were
>planetmans general active since beta or whatever
>manages to stay active until a week ago
>general starts dying 50 posts in
Not even 6 months ago we were going through one thread a day.
rip ;_;

I think the number of "git gud/t. shitter" voices reached critical mass and no one wants to post here anymore.

They were always present, but they've become a seriously high percentage of posts as of late.

And earlier today on one continent NC and VS were both even with like 42% pop each and NC was winning with like 9 VP to VS 3, but then the other continent locked and suddenly everyone flooded in with fairly even pop across all factions and it ended with another VS lock

TR is always focusing on NC and ignoring VS. Probably because prowlers beat vanguards in armor pushes but magriders are 2sneaky for simple prowler drivers to deal with

Isn't the whole 'faction X doesn't fight faction X and only focuses on faction X' the same thing everyone says and silly to take seriously?

It demonstrably does happen sometimes, e.g. two 96+ fronts on your line and only one small 24-48 fight on the enemy's line. To believe the same thing doesn't happen just as often to the other two factions is silly.

i check the map and measure whos fighting who how much by the number of little explosions appear

blue border always has little explosions all over the place, whereas there is often a distinct lack of explosions between red and purple during off hours, and during primetime it picks up some, though population wise it always seems like both factions are dedicating more to exploding along blue territory lines, and NC often seems to be fighting in one additional front than the other factions.

Though its really a matter of 'people dont like fighting vs', particularly newer players since VS have so much bullshit going on like free night camo. I noticed both on connery AND on emerald, as both tr and nc, that people tend to not want to fight vs as much. This is why vs does so well i think even though the other factions both have some really good empire specific stuff, they are just less fun to fight because of all those alien hax.

Except it does.

It's not like shadowy forces are making decisions. It's mostly that no one wants to fight VS.

>It's mostly that no one wants to fight VS.
Completely false.

PS2's #1 leader in kills...

people like you and me want to fight vs to kill gay aliums. But the average person dose not want to fight vs. I did not want to fight vs when i was new to the game either, they are just automatically harder to fight. Their maxes are thinner so harder to hit, their aoe spam is bigger, their mbt can climb fucking walls, they are completely invisible at night.

Sure, once you learn how the game works, its mostly ok. But most people dont know how the game works.

As much as this game is bad at telling people how to do, well anything, can they not have bothered to put hive efficiency maps in game or give a hud indicator for when retards put up terrible hives that lock everything else out?

I'm making a thing

There's no point in posting in here because no fucking discussion or meaningful conversation happens here
Just mindless shitposting

you realize your post gets posted every thread right?

All pistols are done (except directives)

Aphelion or Saron on the Mag? I feel like Saron is better, but I already have that on my Harasser.

Or maybe even PPA? I'm running AP on the main.

>Emissary longest TTK
What, really? In my experience people who use that thing almost never miss a shot, my average time to death has to be

It's getting buffed soon

>game-update-1-14

What an fuck

d

Sounds like I'm in for a ride

At least in one of the last updates they reduced the slugs drop

OP used ancient pasta for some reason, see

Only lewds can save us now.

...

Saron probably fits it better, with ability to magdump when peeking. That was my impression when I ran with a magrider pro friend of mine who had both.

Aphelion is exceptional on a harasser though. It's just a straight up better vulcan. If you haven't already got it - get it. It's OP as shit, just no-one spams it, so it'll never get nerfed.

PPA is shit. Get a kobalt instead if you plan to kill infantry, though you'd be better in a fury harasser or bus for that.

I guess I'll just pick up the Saron again.

Could you elaborate a bit more on the PPA vs Kobalt deal? Very few people actually talk about the "shit" weapons in the game.

Well, I can mostly talk about it from a harasser perspective, as that's what I tend to main vehicle wise.

Basically, PPA is extremely inaccurate (think harasser bound duster), along with a relatively small magazine, along with mediocre damage.

As a result, you've a very small effective range (unless tap firing - greatly increasing your time to kill) weapon, that can really only kill 1 or 2 people per magazine.

It's a very mediocre weapon, and in context of the canister and marauder as its competition - it's absolute shit. Against groups up close, you'll be caught reloading before they're dead, and die, against solo players, they'll either medkit through your damage if at range, or you'll straight up miss them due to bloom.

A kobalt however tends to work quite nicely on a solo harasser (or driven sunderer - it's more a stable platform, I assume it's good on magriders too). It's a headshot machine that nearly never needs to be reloaded. You can easily pick off lone targets out for a good range, and spam down clumps. It has a good TTK, and generally it's a very solid weapon.

I guess the only reason you'd take the PPA over the kobalt is for splash damage - but then again, I'd take a fury for that. It does the job better, and is far more reliable over range once you've got the arc down. Fury is just a less specialised marauder, so it fills the niche perfectly.

Really, the aphelion is nearly as good at anti-infantry as the PPA once you become proficient with the disk mechanic.

Thank you very much user.

Final bump.

rip ps2g

;_;

rip in peas

it should be noted that the PPA is a godly zerg weapon. when many tanks are using it in the same fight, generally no infantry are left standing.

it's also pretty easy to use meaning any shitter can hop in your crab and start pewing

I'm pretty sure I didn't die a single time to ground PPA since the nerf. I'm dying a lot more to Gatekeepers that are supposed to be an AV weapons

well the gatekeeper is broken, everyone knows that

roughly the same infantry DPS as the PPA, travels fast as fuck, deals good damage to vehicles too

point still stands that the PPA is a good zerg weapon

What would you say was the main reason lots of people stopped playing this game?

t. shitter

shut up shitter

It's a bad game.

>construction being overhyped, ultimately being very underwhelming and just a pop sink
>oh and also literally every other thing in that patch and the next one being absolutely shit except for the removal of broken arch

your a bad game

sheeeeeeeit

>vs having grey under purple makes them overpowered because muh FREE NIGHT CAMO

wow

Well, it actually does.

I can't fucking see them at night. The dark colors blend into shadows and break up their silhouette. They're easier to lose in visual noise, and harder to spot before they open fire on you.

Meanwhile NC and TR run around in highly contrasting red and blue.

VS's armor needs to go back.

>NC wears tan cloth and bright blue metal plates, and has bright yellow details and goggles/faceplate
>TR wears washed out grey/white cloth and bright red metal plates, and has some red details
>VS is solid black

whose idea was this

I honestly don't know, but I can't understand why they persist in never fixing it.

Anyone got those comparisons of the solid black camo on vanu armor vs the default camo?

so how about that new high velocity ammo?

I have this

It's shit an wrel is dumb

The date on this file is September 1st, 2014 but I think it's still pretty much the same except with more bits and bobs for new helmets.

You piqued my curiosity so I went a digging to find what the VS sheet looks like now.

Not quite as pitch black, more of an iffy indigo-type color, but still nowhere as near as contrasted as the original skin.

Look closer too and you'll see there's even LESS teal, with the last little bits having been turned a sort of blue-grey that's way less standout than the teal was.

VS needs the bright pinkish/purple highlights on the edges like The solid portion of the camo can be as black as they want so long as the silhouette/outline is distinct and visible like the NC and TR.

Well, this surprised me.

what's the X stuff?

X times I did your mum

98th percentile, z-score 2.05, top ~2% of users

CYCLONE IS OVERPOWERED

>cuckingtonsteel's stream
>connection quality: BAD BAD BAD
>half a second reaction time
>piss poor aim
>barely 4 KDR as betel nigger
>complains about getting instagibbed by shotguns
>this is the kind of player that unironically thinks they're good

Why does it surprise you? You fell for the "waah waah cyclone is sooper dooper OP when used by decent players" meme? Or for the "literally everything TR has is completely shit" meme?

>It's shit
so i shouldn't put it on my gauss saw?

Battle Rifles; statistically the same guns in every way, except the VS version has no drop and a 30m/s slower bullet.

I think this is a pretty good case example of the difference that no bullet drop actually makes - it's not much, but it's also not nothing.

Battle rifles are one of the only guns where the lack of bullet drop actually matters, that being very low rate of fire, higher damage semi-auto weapons that aren't shotguns.

There's not really any point. You barely get any velocity increase and the tradeoff is losing 20% of your max damage range.

shotguns are bullshit m8, so are smg infiltrators holy fuck if any faction ever went 100% smg infiltrators they would be unstoppable

Remove shotguns and infiltrators from the game, to be honest, give dildar to light assault.

but gauss saw is a good sniping weapon if you single shot tap it. I just love headshoting boltshitters.

The real issue is i have a disconnect of what range is in game. I dont really know how far 10meters is compared to 8 meters. I cant understand how many times i am within that 8-10 meter range. Because according to charts ive seen im better off in almost all situations having HVA unless i am shooting at something within that 2 meter window.

The inside of big rooms for example, where does that 2 meter window fall?

Thanks for giving our lord and savor views. He deserves every dick sucking because his long shlong.

Here you go

where can you see these stats

i want to see the truth with my own eyes

thanks.

So in my experience using gauss saw i either try to stay further away than 10 meters, or im doing some emergency point holding and im peeking out a door and mowing down 5 people point blank with headshots.

That said im not sure it really matters enough to spend the 100 certs since gauss saw already rapes everything at all ranges

Shotguns are not bullshit, they're very good at close range and useless at medium/long range (besides for the slug baron meme). What's bullshit is that because of the retarded netcode, you can get OHKd two seconds before you see that lagging subhuman round the corner.
Also, infiltrators as a whole are bullshit, not just SMG.

I'm making a spreadsheet using dasanfall's numbers.

You can do it yourself if you want, the formula I'm using to determine real DPS is:

(A*B*C) + (A*B)
A = ((RPM / 60) * DMG Per Bullet)
B = Accuracy %
C = HSR %

Example, Gauss Saw:
A = ((500 / 60) * 200) = 1667.667 DPS
B = 17.9%
C = 20.7%

(1667.667 * 0.179 * 0.207) + (1667.667 * 0.179) = 360.31 DPS

Thus we get 360 DPS for someone with 17.9% accuracy and 20.7% headshot ratio using the Gauss Saw.

You can download the unfinished spreadsheets here: mediafire.com/?7u3lm7uuibir013

I've still got to add AR's, Carbines, Snipers, and Shotguns.

Keep in mind that it doesn't take into account attachments, leg damage, fire modes, or DPS at varying ranges. For instance, a Gauss Saw is able to put out more DPS at 100m than an Orion is. It's a rough approximation of real-world weapon performance on the server and aggregates all ranges and situations together.

sick stuff, i'll have a look at it when i get home

remember to rub it in reddits face as well

The benefits are miniscule/imperceptible, and while the downside itself is relatively minor, the upside is even more ignorable.
It basically does so little it's not even worth bothering with.

I don't know what the hell wrel was thinking with it.

Attachments need to offer substantial changes. Nobody gives a fuck about +5% here, or +3% there.

>17% accuracy
who is this bad

The average NC heavy assault player.

I took that number from the actual avg for the Gauss Saw.