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This day in history, June 15th:
1219 – Northern Crusades: Danish victory at the Battle of Lyndanisse (modern-day Tallinn) establishes the Danish Duchy of Estonia. According to legend, this battle also marks the first use of the Dannebrog, the world's first national flag still in use, as the national flag of Denmark.
1389 – Battle of Kosovo: The Ottoman Empire defeats Serbs and Bosnians.
1410 – In a decisive battle at Onon River, the Mongol forces of Oljei Temur were decimated by the Chinese armies of the Yongle Emperor.
1752 – Benjamin Franklin proves that lightning is electricity.
1944 – World War II: Battle of Saipan: The United States invade Japanese-occupied Saipan.


>News
EU4 DD09/06
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CK2 DD 8 - Life goes on
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>Random Country Picker
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# Mods
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>>[HoI4] - General Fixes V005
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>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
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>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.3 - 21/03/2016
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>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
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>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
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Reposting from last thread:

Alright anons, it's time to vote on the start date of the CK2 AAR.

First, if you haven't seen it before or need a refresher, here's a general overview of the start dates which are up for selection and some background about what makes them interesting:

imgur.com/a/cfxnT
imgur.com/a/cfxnT

REMEMBER: once again, this has nothing to do with who I'll play as. The Anarchy could be the chosen start date and I could play some tribal chief in Finland; this is only about what the historical background of the world I'll be playing in will be like.

I've allowed multiple poll choices this time around, so you can vote for however many start dates you're interested in, in case your first or second choice don't pan out in the end.

I'll let this go for about 24 hours before I finalize my decision, so everyone should have time to see it:

strawpoll.me/10492162
strawpoll.me/10492162

pls don't make me have to do 1066

This is a tsarist thread!

>nobody votes for mongol invasion

WHY

>Johan thinks Japan owned Manchukuo directly

In HOI4 how can I speed up the training time for units?

I'm fulfilling my production quotas, but training shit like infantry, tanks and artillery takes a long time still

>try to vote
>captcha asks me to click on all images with a river until there's no river pictures left
>click on all images with a river pictures until there's none left
>doesn't let me in
WHAT THE FUCK WAS WRONG WITH THE OLD CAPTCHA THAT REQUIRED THIS SHIT TO BE INVENTED

ALEX GRANDI WHERE IS THE NEW VERSION OF HPM

>that one cheeky cunt who only voted Stamford Bridge
I saw that you motherfucker.

nobody knows desu

I like the new one better though, even though it fucks up sometimes

>tfw no independent Manchuria
>the Manchu language and culture is almost extinct after being absorbed by the Han borg

Just kill me lads

Chose 1337 because it's the only meme start besides 867 and 769 (which you didn't include)

deploy them at 20% training

Should I be ashamed that I failed my first game as Germany due to misclicking and committing my entire army to attacking the Maginot line, and then refusing to retreat and try again because it kept saying I was 99% of the way to winning for nearly a year?

There's a focus somewhere that decrease training time by %10
there also maybe a doctrine, too

If your training is less than 1% per day then deploy them at 25% "green" and put them on exercise which is usually more than 1% per day

>italy joined the asian co-prosperity sphere
>ethiopia joined the chinese united front

why

ya you should kys

forts stronk

They couldn't get google dollas from creating a sentient AI or reading your address off the street with the old captcha goyim.

Go fascist and get military youth

Fall of the Axis liberation free indepedant states in father Germany's embrace was a mistake.

youtube.com/watch?v=OkzoBY2FZmo
youtube.com/watch?v=3mp4aOABbsI

>le fascism is one entity meme

Okay tell me how I can start playing as Korea or make Korea a country asap

>Japan
>Grant independence

HoI4 in archive when
i wanna try this ezmode game

well meme'd

Torrent it you fucking buffoon

Is there any hope me taking back Belgium, who is in Germany's sphere?
Is there any hope for Europe?

why not just buy it

it's literally only 40 USd

Volksgemeinschaft Fascist Republic
VSFR Ukraine
VSFR Poland
VSFR Baltics
VSFR Belarus
VSFR Russia
VSFR Denmark
VSFR Norway
VSFR Netherlands
VSFR Belgium

i'm waiting until it's a complete game in about a year to consider buying

>Communist Partij

This was the case with EU4, CK2, and is with Stellaris I dont see hoi4 being any different.

Supreme Fascist Council Of The Third Reich.
SVSFR Germany

Thats not how fascism works lad.

The germans wanted to either kill all russians or turn them into germans.

The italians wanted to either kill all greeks or turn them into italians.

real life isn't Victoria 2 with HPM installed autist

How do RGOs work in HPM under a Proletariat dictatorship?
I have a lot of rubber provinces that have zero people hired even though there is demand for rubber from my own factories. Is communism anything to do with it?

wrong
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

youtube.com/watch?v=OkzoBY2FZmo

...

>implying it wasn't during WW2

wew lad

>Using slavs as cannon fooder against other slavs

Nice epic I like it.

Ask any eastern nation how german occupation went. Wasn't as shitty as commie rule but still pretty shitty.

>i invent the context and meaning from propaganda shown by their enemies devoid of facts

>military occupation is bad therefore the Germans wanted to annihilate the Russian people and the Italians wanted to annihilate the Greek people

Shut the fuck up you wormy kike. There's literally no evidence for the claims you made.

>What were Ostarbeiters
>What was Lebensraum

/pol/ pls.
Germans wanting to assimilate and exterminate the slavic cultures is a well known fact.

Fuck Hitler even wrote it down in his little book.

>What were Ostarbeiters
>What was Lebensraum
nonsense.

So how come in HOI4 Atomic Bombs are so fucking terrible?

>incredibly easy to make
>do little to no damage
>hardly help you at all

I feel like they should be a lot harder to make and every blast should bring them like 5% closer to capitulation per every million inhabitants for a province.

Björk

But where is the proof?

How do I get better at Black Ice for Hearts of Iron 3?

>le piece of paper proves they wanted to exterminate everything and großgermaniums ::DDDDDD

Sure thing lad

Mein Kampf
German occupied Russia

Björk

Which part of Mein Kampf says the NSDAP was going to exterminate all Russians?

Which part of the German occupation of Russia demonstrates that the Germans wanted to exterminate all Russians?

Why have you conveniently forgotten the Italians?

German occupied Russia
millions of male recruits if you adjust for their family around 4 million russians in russian occupied Germany would be supporters.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

>hoy doy doy its da joos on wikipedia
>what's a sources listed on the bottom of page

Yes, it's propaganda.

ICELAND

You're going to need a primary source from the Nazis, not a secondary source from their enemies.

Why have you neglected to post those excerpts from Mein Kampf? Why have you neglected to post any sources detailing your claims about the Italians?

>Dem Germans dindu nuffin
>Treated dem Russians real good
>They even got dem special badges to show how awesom they are

this is the source.
rosalux.de/fileadmin/rls_uploads/pdfs/167eichholtz.pdf
no proof.

Not an argument.

>gen. Vlasov wanted to travel through Germany to Allies
>At the end ROA fought for the good side

what was your argument exactely?

at the end Germany wanted an alliance with the allies, vlasov as well to defend against soviets.

:^)

>wikipedia

Secondary source with no Nazi input.

no proofs.

youtube.com/watch?v=UfpjLsMgAsw
These are people educated 100% full power by mein Kampf and the national socialist state.

>at the end Germany wanted an alliance with the allies

Thats why they invaded them? Like a little boy who tries to make a girl like him, so he pulls her hair and steals her stuff?

Was there any contradiction with what you were taught about Germans and national socialism?

Why I could show you the german documents but you don't even understand german so whats the point

Hitler had no problem with Japs because they weren't in his way

actions speak louder than words

Show me the German documents and I'll admit you're right and be on my way.

Hitler always wanted an alliance with Great Britain; they were fellow Germanics after all.

1000dokumente.de/index.html?c=dokument_de&dokument=0138_gpo&object=facsimile&l=de

Have fun

Why does it matter what Hitler/Axis wanted they no longer exist, this is a map painting general.

>Hitler always wanted an alliance with Great Britain; they were fellow Germanics after all
Aparently he didnt really cared about that, since you know conquest of Europe and alliance with UK are more or less mutually exclusive. Especially if you attack UK's allies.

Hitler didn't declare war on France or Britain infact he declared peace with everyone as soon as he took danzig.

>get large
>spend more time deploying planes all around the world than playing the game

How do i make hoi4 fun again?

i mean he hated slavs alot desu - considering the fact that the government had plenty of plans written out on "colonizing the east" with germans

>"In the same way the child of any Jew, Pole, African or Asian may automatically become a German Citizen'
>poles are african-tier according to papa adolf

>"I detested the conglomerate of races that the realm's
capital manifested ; all this racial mixture of Czechs, Poles,
Hungarians, Ruthenians, Serbs, and Croats, etc."
>damn slavs ruining this empire

>"The 'Imperial House' favoured the Czechs on every
possible occasion."
>the fucking austrians preferred czechs more than themselves

>"Working from above
downwards, he was the chief patron of the movement to make Austria a
Slav State."
>LE AUSTRIA HUNGARY IS GOING TO BE ALL SLAV

>"they did not have the racial
characteristics of the Slav"
>le slavs are not white

>"For the Russian State was not
organized by the constructive political talent of the Slav element in
Russia, but was much more a marvellous exemplification of the capacity
for State-building possessed by the Germanic element in a race of
inferior worth"
>the germans are superior to the slav in every way and the russian empire was run in no way whatsoever by slavs

good ol adolf - let's not get started on how he though islam was bretty neat.

>Starting a world war over Poland
>Letting them get conquered anyway
wew

No but /pol/JWs defending Fascism is annoying.

How exactly do you suppose they carried out a mass extermination campaign encompassing millions of people over thousands of miles with no written orders or objectives detailing so?

After reviewing these documents I have concluded that there is no evidence that they stipulated a mass extermination campaign against Russian people.

You still have provided no proof of Italian genocide against the entire Greek population and you still have provided no proof that Mein Kampf called for the wholesale genocide of the Russians.

He would have liked both is my point.

But there's no proof that he was going to wipe all of them out, as was claimed.

>if you don't agree with everything hitler said then you're an autistic liberal cuck sjw white traitor!
>w-what do you mean you're a right wing populist?
>y-you're voting ukip?
>y-youre still a RACE TRAITOR!

Mid-1942 and i am the USSR, Germany has still not declared war on me. This is dumb breaking all my RP and immersion i will be way too prepared now. Already have a surplus of all my tanks and nothing is really that pressing.

why not invade Germany as would have happened historically

Wait for the DLC, goy

>Hitler didn't declare war on France or Britain infact he declared peace with everyone as soon as he took danzig.
wat? Thats why the rest of Poland followed in matter of weeks? And France a year after that?

>He would have liked both is my point.
You mean he would have loved conquest of Europe without British interference?

Did you change your government? Perhaps they don't want to attack you

what did tumblr mean by this

No you dumb fuck. Nazis used the slavs for forced labour during the war.

After the war was won those former russian territories were supposed to be settled with Germans and the russians would have been replaced.

Shit is annoying. Too bad they'll never accept that they're just as bad as the liberals they hate.

>1/4 of the world's landmass and 1/5 of the world's population is British dominion
>Germany is the one who needs to slow down with the conquest

what did reddit mean by this

Are you retarded? Did you read the document?

The autistic document uses the term "Germanization of Eastern Territories" (Eindeutschung der Ostgebiete). The phrase means that the author of this autistic work had in mind the Germanization of slavs - but it is clear from the further wording of the plan that any attempt to Germanize the Slav nations of Eastern Europe was never in the reckoning.

On the contrary, the plan planned that these Slav territories would be settled by Germans while the vast majority of the native populace would be gradually pushed out. Only an insignificant number was to be Germanized. In short, Generalplan Ost provided for the expulsion of millions of people, primarily Slav nations, from their homes and the settlement of Germans in their place.

This is outgrowing hte native population with immigrants - and expelling them out of their homelands

Sounds like white (slav) genocide to me desu.

>Science Directorate
AHahaha

British Empire evolved into it's 1921 form from centuries of expansion generally staying under the infamy limit.

Germany got really big, really agressive, really fast, and was at least 50/25 infamy.

But you haven't provided any proof. You can repeat yourself and scream at the top of your lungs all day long, but the historical record simply doesn't provide any credit to your claims.

Moving people out of their homes != killing the entire Russian population

this
germans were cucks with small dicks so they had to pick on an alpha race with big dicks

why do you think marx planned for communism to start in germany?

I haven't provided any proof?
Are you in an echo chamber?
Read the documents asshole. I'm not going to copy and paste the entire fucking thing here so you can just memepost again
>le no evidence kek cuck stumped agian

Marx and Engels actually said Germany with its proud traditions will be the last to go Communist.

Ok I'm pretty sure you're a baitmaster or just dense

There's no proof that the document was official Nazi policy.

I've written a million autistic fanfics here on /gsg/ but that doesn't mean the United States is going to ethnically cleanse Canada.

Not an argument.

>tho not arumba, he was blaming paradox's weird pathing ai on the leader of the science ship being a stupid woman.

Based Arumba.

This is a new level of retardation even for this general

Not an arugment.