It all depends if you have the expansion or not. You don't have it? Then unlock every lv 50 dungeon, including the 24-man raid, Crystal Tower. If you have the expansion, these things can wait, instead, do the sidequests that will lead you to the Heavensward content. These are a lot of quest, btw.
>I'm going to assume I am too late to jump on the Alexander bandwagon. You're right on time for Alex bandwagon, what you miss is the Coil of Bahamut bandwagon
Camden Nguyen
But why does it specifically have to be that way?
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reasons SCH are the de facto "dps healer" is because 3 of their 4 DoTs require no accuracy and that their fairy provides unhindered healing support concurrently with your damage output?
Having the fairy not cheat and ignore Cleric Stance doesn't mean SCH just has to keep playing as discount SMN. People might just have to brace themselves for the fact that their playstyle might not remain 100% the same with a few numbers shifted around.
Isaac Ortiz
>Kazegami spends six hours shitposting about ast and defending whm >doesn't even have whm leveled
wow, all opinions immediately discarded
Jonathan Miller
Good morning user. I haven't even gone to bed yet.
Anthony Torres
Dressed up potato
Brayden Stewart
>Then realize they're opinions, silly boy. When people have to go "well, that's just your opinion" it's the most hilarious thing in the world. As if it's anything of substance. Obviously it's a fucking opinion because it came out of my fucking mouth and isn't something we have the means to scientifically verify.
>but they're just as easily all countered with facts from the otherside
There is one fact that hasn't been countered no matter how times I present it. Why are there more WHM clears than AST clears? We're over halfway into the raid tier and WHM still has 20x more clears than AST.
"b-b-but AST is just as good for progression!" then why do most of these AST clears only appear late in the patch? Why are most of them WHMs switching to give someone a good parse? Somehow I'm wrong about AST being bad, yet all the real data seems to indicate it. People playing the game and beating hard content don't play AST, but AST is somehow perfectly fine
Nathaniel Sanchez
You're not in the EU though right? Because that would be really unhealthy...
They are a demon elezen. Do not fall under their sway.
Donut abuse the male cats.
Carter Gonzalez
catboys were made for petting and cuddles. no lewd
Chase Robinson
dont abuse cats
Joseph Jenkins
I must see that au ra's face.
Aiden Cox
>has whm only at level 38 >thinks he can actually speak about healer playstyle or how ast and whm are the same class
you have got to be fucking kidding
Blake Brooks
>anons can't actually contribute to the argument >they proceed to attack the person rather than talk about the game
This is what we refer to as a logical fallacy.
Ayden Parker
I've never had the ability to try AST but I have been interested in it. WHM I have used more than once in leveling my SCH and perhaps I have not gotten far enough with WHM but it seems relatively easy in comparison to something like SCH. I was doing the last two dungeons of the msq and kind of choked due to there being so many different people on the list at once and not being sure of who I should prioritize healing. The eight man thing is going to take getting used to, but so far I see SCH as a fun class in comparison to WHM.
I am looking forward to giving AST a try for the first time as well.
Thanks for the other responses too guys, but
what does this mean? Unlock everything?
Grayson Roberts
>watching these people arguing the merits of AST >tfw just want to play AST because it has the stylistically best animations and a great weapon.
Life is suffering.
Luis Allen
It's OK, my sleep schedule is flipped to shit but I still sleep a normal amount of time.
Cameron Gonzalez
>Lalafell will never fuck off back to /terag/ because Elin are all female and Lalafell players are all gay toddlercons.
Luis Roberts
non
Cameron Evans
That's not Halatali normal.
Only the ones that lack the spirit to save the good peoples from the great tides of evil and cruelty that sweeps across the lands.
Adam Bennett
Why not just play AST anyway if you like how it feels? I'm no raider but unless playing AST is costing you a spot in a group or something I don't see the issue
Jose Clark
Make sure you buy the expansion as soon as you can so the remaining ARR quests give you experience and you don't have to go through as much of the drag that is HW leveling.
Refer to the link posted by for what people mean by "unlocking everything".
Aaron Russell
>People arguing It's literally one person insisting AST is bad. AST is a good class in Diurnal Sect. Don't let others meme you out of playing a class you like. That's stupid.
Jaxson Sanders
that's easy enough since i'm also actively posting
it's no big deal
Joseph Allen
I went to bed at 1900 last night and just got up at 0730 I was knackered. Make sure you dont ruin yourself with that schedule! Is it for work?
Henry Hill
but if AST is good why does no one play it?
David Mitchell
who's the hyur
Jordan Cox
Weren't you on Shiva or something?
Parker Sanders
I knew you were around Pops
Isaac Powell
hey kazegami i mean (((shimakaze)))
can u write a thesis statement on why u think ast is bad
like can u reach max character count and post all ur (((evidence))) over 10 consecutive posts on why u think ast is bad
maybe people will take u seriously :)
Noah King
have you reached level 60 whm since you posted last kazegami
or are you going to desperately continue to shitpost about how the class is bad
>whm level 38 >insinuates he knows everything about class balance what a fucking joke, neck yourself
John Martin
worse, m a t e u s .
Parker Kelly
i wish i knew german
Chase Watson
Star Globes are awful though.
Every other class has decent, down to earth weapons that server their purpose. They may have sparkly/glowing versions at end game, but if you see an NPC with a spear or a wand, it looks reasonable. Every star glove is needlessly flashy. Why does a simple weapon have to be floating up from the user's hand? Why do the cards have to constantly be rotating around? The card sheath is fine but the globe is just obnoxious and annoying.
Dylan Roberts
katja
Zachary Cook
You lewd a catboy. Don't lie to us.
Adrian Robinson
What job has the best lore? What job has the best overall aesthetic/animations?
Justin Martin
Elins are ugly. They hace horrible proportions and ugly faces. Also is a shitty game. They are 100% sexual and 0% cute.
FFXIV is comfy and Lalas are qt ~
Jackson Lewis
I hope you bully that random person you found on lodestone. It would be pretty funny for me
Jackson Price
You look strikingly similar to me and and another hyur, it's a little unnerving.
Ethan Torres
I'll just quit if they nerf WAR or SCH.
Literally the only 2 jobs in the game with fun and varied playstyles, and the devs are too retarded to bring the rest up to par so lol just nerf them right guys?
Why even bother with stance/role swapping at all? Just force every single job in the game to play around their designated DPS/Tank/Healer functions so the last few drops of fun are finally sucked out of the game so we can just quit already.
Remove cleric stance, remove deliverance, chance brd into ranger and remove songs. There, now the game is perfect and everyone gets to play exactly the same way, but with different looking gear.
Cameron Williams
these are bait
have a (You) for getting triggered at game discussion
Easton Thomas
I was on that same boat for a few months until I just started playing the fucking job. Despite all the trash talking about it, I found it to be a lot more fun and rewarding than WHM because of its mechanics, not just the animations and theme. Haven't had any trouble finding a static, either, most groups don't mind having an AST and the DPS will suck your dick if you feed them balances.
Because most people just prefer to play WHM and there is still a stigma about AST that can't be disproven as easily as by just showing how BRD has higher DPS than MCH after the patch.
Owen Evans
To be fair most hyur look very similar! It's like the family curse.
Carter White
but if AST is GOOD and people know it's good why do they play WHM? Are there any WHMs/ASTs here that have beaten a8s? Can you explain why you chose the job you did for it?
Brody Gomez
>stigma
Come on, we already talked about this.
It's been a year since HW has released and PLD, MNK, and MCH have all become relevant again, despite their stigma. Why can't AST players do the same?
Julian Wood
Whoa, who let this shit opinion through the door?
The star globe is quite honestly the best weapon in the game. It's small, but it's eye catching and completely represents the class.
I'm so happy it's unique and not something boring like the SCH book, where everything is literally
>A BOOK WITH A FEATHER
Shit, give me flashiness over that boring ass shit any day.
Thomas Martin
who is this oddly adorable onion knight. also I agree that elins are not cute at all and completely over sexualized, while lala are cute and and only sexualized when filth like jaiba dresses them up that way.
Kayden Powell
I would agree, but you basically just said SCH/SMN books are decent, down to earth weapons when they're the most trash tier form of a weapon in any game ever.
Jaxon Lee
>watching Death Stranding trailer >again
Evan Green
...
Jason Parker
At least SMN books look different.
Xavier Moore
What bookcases are those? I need those in my room.
Christopher Wood
Have fun quitting in 3.4 or 4.0 then, when they literally nerf SCH for being too powerful. Yoshi P already pretty much confirmed it, toss this
>boo boo poor SCH
Shit in the garbage on your way out.
Asher King
>quitting if your overpowered jobs get nerfed Do us all a favor and just unsub now please.
Jordan Perez
literally nobody's asking for those things you clod. i'd claw my fucking eyes out if healer jobs didn't have cleric stance, I just don't think SCH should be the only one who gets to cheat it.
don't bother her please she doesn't even come here
Justin Turner
kazegami is a literal joke
some user has exposed him and its quite funny seeing all the damage control
Colton Cox
Who the fuck is talking about WHM/AST?
>Why can't AST players do the same?
>can't be disproven as easily as by just showing how BRD has higher DPS than MCH after the patch.
Robert Reed
Yep. I stop sometimes whenever I go to a MB cause I swear i'm seeing double.
Charles Turner
There were only 2 faced that looked like they didn't have downs unfortunately
David Myers
That patch was literally 1 week ago. You're really expecting a sudden surge of a8s BRD clears in 1 week? Are you retarded?
Daniel Cooper
does she erp?
Jordan Bailey
>this irrelevant AST/WHM shit again
Oh boy here we go again
Also kazegami please neck yourself pls
Josiah Robinson
i had a midlander alt once but i killed her
Isaac Richardson
Why? I can translate.
Gavin Williams
Buy I enjoy scholar.... ;~;
Aaron Robinson
no and she's engaged to somebody
Adam Cox
>Who the fuck is talking about WHM/AST?
To be fair if ast was as good as people say, people would have no issues running AST+WHM. Even if with double hots as mitigation hasn't been a must throughout alexander.
Leo Russell
repondre s'il vous plait
Evan Edwards
That's my Paladin's glamour, sillybutt.
how new are you?
No matter if you sexualize a Lala, they will still look cute.
Thank you both. And yes, I am playing on HW right now but to be completely honest with you guys I was fucking around with alts on an Balmung for RP purposes, which I never did anyway so that was a huge waste. I never leveled after a certain point.
But I got a friend on a non-rp server now and want to stay here a while. And this is my first character I have ever passed the main quest line with. So yeah now that I am here I want to see what I can see.
Julian Moore
SCH isn't overpowered, everything else is just designed poorly to the point where SCH and WAR are like golden gods in comparison.
Just look at how botched DRK and AST were/are. That alone should give you real time functional knowledge of the incompetence of the dev team when it comes to building new jobs.
SCH/WAR are like people with functioning legs while everyone eles is in a wheelchair. Just make the other jobs better and more fun to play instead of nerfing the good ones.
Evan Ramirez
Nah. They're the "DPS healer" for a number of reasons. Accuracy isn't really one of them post-3.2, since healers can just meld Accuracy materia to make all their attacks land.
The fairy is a pretty big reason why they are, but not to the extent that a WHM would find themselves able to solo-heal with the addition of fairy Embraces, but not without those Embraces (other fairy skills like Whispering Dawn or the MDef/Healing buffs wouldn't really be hindered by fairy cleric stance, since CS wouldn't affect anything except WD/Embrace, and could just be disabled for the one GCD it takes to cast Embrace).
The biggest reason though is how efficient their DPS is. Since SCH is a job for Arcanist, their attack spells need to be balanced MP-wise for SMN, an actual DPS class with a far, far smaller MP pool. So unlike WHM and AST, which incur a pretty heavy MP drain when they DPS, SCH is capable of going full-time DPS, and then still having a full MP pool for whenever they need to do a bit of healing. Add on top of that that SCH can use Bane whenever there's a multitarget/AoE situation, for virtually the same MP cost as single-target, AND that any spare stacks of Aetherflow left over go into Energy Drain that returns even more MP than (the already pretty ridiculous) 20%/minute from Aetherflow.
Add on that since they're DoT-based, they lose the least of all healers by dropping Cleric for just a GCD or two, as long as their DoTs stay up, and that as the 'mitigation' healer, they're only really required to throw up infrequent shields and heals. Plus a fair number of their skills (Supervirus, Sacred Soil) are unaffected by CS in the first place. Meanwhile, the healers that are meant to complement them excel at the bulk, high-potency healing that ensures the off-healer will have free time to DPS.
It's a really difficult problem to solve without just butchering the class. (At the same time, it NEEDS solving)
Leo Ramirez
pretty sure it's a riviera furniture item, so start looking from there.
Carter Turner
DRK
It's the most fun to play, but also has the highest skill floor