>Previously on VGL6: /twg/ wins it all, keeping the number of good teams to win tournaments in PES16 firmly stuck at zero. /rsg/ wins the Third Place trophy, keeping the number of fucks given also firmly stuck at zero.
>Previously: Rampant shitposting as usual. 146000000 get. A boring get for a boring cup. VGL6 is over. Maybe now we'll get to the actually fun matches in actually fun memevitationals. New version of Harlock, which is sure to fix absolutely nothing and break what was already broken even further*, @ /ag/ League page.
* "It is perfect! Implement it immediately!" - DF and JB.
JB and DF have already praised it, so no matter how shitty it will prove to be, they will defend it to save faces and protect their gods of PES status, like they did with 1.04 against all proofs and facts.
Nathan Gray
k, request sent
Asher Bennett
Wow, I can't fucking wait for Germany to win the league, AGAIN. Jesus Christ those arrogant fucks think they're so fucking tough by picking on unprepared teams, what a load of shit. What's the point of having a league if we know what the result will be Fucking Germany ruining the league, they should be out.
Jaxon Cox
Accepted dood
Jonathan Roberts
All I can see are Colombia Uruguay Algeria and Costa Rica, how do I choose something like Englel or Ireland?
Nathan Morgan
Maybe
Jonathan Anderson
You can't, all the f*n teams were already picked or aren't featured in this tournament. I can do one with Englel, etc after this one.
Joshua Lopez
55 goals today in the VGL6, by the way. Down from yesterday, still up from the group stages. 6.875 goals per game.
Eli Sullivan
Hey, new addition to the /a/ management here, Looking forward to causing mass disappointment and getting sacked immediately :^)
Joshua Lopez
these fucking cartoons are staring into my soul
Luis Bennett
at least you're a qt
Landon Hall
I'd 8-2 Live in Cleveland (^:
Brandon Wood
ur dead kid
Jace Ortiz
Well there is always /hanny/ to fall back on when you get sacked
Aiden Wilson
I don't know, his pom-poms probably got him while he was shaking them and he blamed them on JB or something
This is why /a/ fans are idiots
Anthony Carter
OP butthurt levels are reaching CRITICAL MASS
Hudson Smith
Sou can you please enable the hitbox VODs already Mega is too much of a bitch to work with.
Sebastian Powell
you are baka~
Jonathan Powell
ask amis not sou
Kevin Mitchell
Did RSG bring the best viewing for the tourney?
Also did they choose who they wanted in the vg squad yet.
Daniel Cruz
Are you a girl?
Nathaniel Cox
We Thok now
John Garcia
>Did RSG bring the best viewing for the tourney? If you're talking about attendance numbers, nope.
Isaiah Williams
lelbron.jpg
Blake Bailey
No, /fgog/ did that.
Also they picked Thok.
Evan Hall
Their rep is changing from Zezima to Thok, Master of Minigame.
Nolan Kelly
What was the goal of the tournament? And the spaghetti moment?
Levi Wood
Ask this again after that Finnish bastard enables the hitbox VODs so we can rewatch the KOs. Yesterday had some gud shit.
Kayden Flores
DA LAND and >73-9 on /sp/ when?
Juan Taylor
Well I identify as one
Hunter White
I can't wait for 99% Chance to miss every fucking shot for Veeky Forums
Nicholas Turner
What is this multicultural cup that this dude on RAD mentioned?
/xcg/ picked Snaketits lad, lord knows we already have enough choking with >Git Gud and a French manlet as golds
Lincoln Turner
Wasn't Git gud replaced?
Lucas Rivera
They're going with Snaketits, actually.
Only two teams haven't given a rep /fgg/'s manager said Stinky Boat will be likely and /drg/'s rep will probably depend on who's Golden Glove but otherwise here's the reps for Veeky Forums:
/gerg/ - JackAttack /twg/ - Napoopan /aceg/ - 30 Tickets /drg/ - The Precious Flower (if Golden Glove) /rsg/ - Thok /ffg/ - Doctor Jewgle /@/ - のヮの /xcg/ - Snaketits /gsg/ - Wilhelm II /ink/ - Woomy! /ddg/ - Grigori /llsifg/ - Alpaca /utg/ - Bad Times /mgg/ - Kazuhira "One Man Clan" Miller /domg/ - erf snek /bdog/ - teeth! /aog/ - WE ARE LAWYER /fgg/ - Stinky Boat (probably) /feg/ - Anna /wotg/ - Maus /lolg/ - Killing Machine /nepgen/ - Purple Heart
We're currently polling about that.
Josiah Rogers
Did a test draw cause.... someone will care.... right??
Jace Perry
First goal of /hsg/ - /gerg/ Yogg Saron's GLT meme rings true
Liam Nelson
nope
Matthew Scott
>yfw he won one for da land
Caleb Gutierrez
Gonna report from the last thread, since I posted at ~700 like an idiot.
We interrupt your regularly scheduled shitposting to bring you.. actual attempts at testing some potential rules changes for Summer! I plan on testing a few more of these over the next two weeks - I'm in kind of a unique position at work where for the next few weeks I can keep PES open and running in the background on another monitor. These test cups take ~8 hours of game time, but it was important to use legitimate cup teams, and get a big enough sample size to compare different rules changes. Here's the idea for each cup:
- 4 groups of 4, with the Top 8 from Winter as Pots 1/2, and the Top 8 from Spring as 3/4. - Standard group stages, followed by an 8 team knockout bracket with a 3rd-place match. This gave us an even 32-match sample size for each cup. - I started with a "Control" cup using the default Spring rule set - this led to a 5.28 Goals/Game average, slightly more than we saw in Spring. I'd say that most games ended with 5 goals - a few had 2 or 3, and a couple of outliers had a MUCH higher number of goals. - From there, I ran TWO test cups so far, using the following rule sets:
1) 1.04, Changing GK Form to 8 and keeping all other stats the same. This led to about a .5 Goal Per Game difference - it's a change, but it's not as much as I think a lot of people were looking for.
2) What I've been calling the "Megabeastage Special" - 1.04, Form on ALL PLAYERS set to 8, and a small amount of stat compression - Golds to 95, Silvers to 86 (-4 and -2 respectively). I was honestly surprised not to see a large difference here - Shots per game were slightly down and Goals/Game dropped to 4.75, but the actual number of goals didn't go down by much, and saves/game were the same. If anything, defenders were a little better about getting in front of shots or forcing bad shots.
Jaxson Anderson
There are fewer stars in the universe than there are years that Detroit will have to wait until they win anything relevant.
Nolan Mitchell
So what does this tell us? Honestly, I believe that we can find a reasonable set of rules changes that leads to 3-4 goals a game with plenty of chances for both teams, and well-set defensive play. Whether you think that 1.04 is shit or not, it does make for a cleaner game, and the chances are much much higher than not that we'll be using it in Summer.
The testing that I've done so far shows that we can make a 1.04 rule set that gives us a decent-scoring game without an ugly one, but I'm willing to test anything that /4ccg/ thinks will bring us an exciting cup in Summer. I get that some people think that 4 or 5 people just decide rules changes based on their own testing without talking to anyone (or just based on their own intuition without talking to anyone), so I just want to make what I'm doing public and visible to everyone, to give you my results, my tests, to let you test using my save files and to be available to test anything you think it going to make Summer better. I've zipped up the EDIT files and spreadsheets for the Control and both tests and made them available here:
So what now? Obviously, we need to come to a consensus on what we expect to see in Summer (3-3.5 Goals Per Game? 2-3 shots per goal? What's the most important thing from here?) and mold our testing around that. I'm willing to test any kinds of changes that /4ccg/ thinks are going to be solid, and I've got enough bandwidth to test them over the next two weeks. I'd love if other people were able to test the rules changes I've already tested using the EDIT files in that link above (along with the ones I'll post for my next tests), but I understand that not everyone can do that.
Wyatt Carter
Hit me up on IRC, Skype, Email, Wiki Talk Page, whatever - we're going to have SOME kind of rules change discussion in Summer, and I personally feel like we need to change something to offset some of our stat issues and the lack of variety and formations and tactics. I just want to make sure we're not in a situation where we DON'T make any changed because we don't have any evidence to prove they'd be better.
>out of the loop for a few days >Indistrikable signs up /sco/ anyway Ah, good shit
Adrian Stewart
Sword Art Online?
Jeremiah Campbell
Feel free to suggest some names for the team if you have any, I'm just putting together a list of stuff off the top of my head now
Blake Rodriguez
>no Sonic you tried
William Hernandez
That explains a lot, actually. Smugleaf randomly gave one of the Veeky Forums bench players that guy's face and hat after I screwed up their blender, and I kept trying to figure out what the "Yes" thing was for.
Jordan Collins
Scrap that, you already have a /scot/ team on your page, I'll let you take the reins
Logan Lewis
Shit I can't believe I forgot these two
Thanks
Christopher Bailey
Well his in-game name hasn't ever had "Master of Minigame" tacked on, but it might've been on the back of his shirt and we can put it on his shirt on Veeky Forums if people want.
Caleb Nelson
He's credited as such on the /rsg/ team page which is what I think the argument is, but "Thok, Master of Minigame" is too long to be a name in-game so that'll have to do.
Jacob Jackson
Save a spot for /br/ I can't make edits atm
Kayden Bell
Probably. He's always just been "Thok" in-game.
Nathan Cooper
Australia Confederate States Finland France Ireland Pakistan (England) Scotland United States Wales whatever the fuck Marshmallow entered
Fictional Friesland Kanto
Probably best to make it 12-8 rather than 10-10
Asher Perez
>not recognizing A FUCKING LEAF
Eli Anderson
Just put it under fictional countries then
Justin Hernandez
1. Australia 2. Canada 3. Confederate States 4. Finland 5. France 6. Ireland 7. Pakistan (England) 8. Scotland 9. United States 10. Wales
Wyatt Wright
>he literally does not get the meme It's Canada you fucking nigger
There's a leaf on the Canadian flag
Justin Lopez
AHA! Little did you know you are replying to THE RUSEMAN!
Have a new list for the /llsifg/ match, stay tuned.
Josiah Allen
entered /hoenn/ for a potential showdown with /kanto/. Open to roster suggestions!
Anthony Robinson
>there are spots for 10 real teams >signs up as the 11th
>brazil
Kayden Campbell
Might as well have a back-up I guess
Julian Nelson
Flannery's tits
Noah Richardson
Wallace obv.
Whatever the ocean is called should be GK
Colton Sanders
Too bad there's no Germany or Peru competing in this cup :^)
Henry Collins
All this rigging can't be good for me but I feel great
Gavin Rodriguez
Thanks for the testing, Duke. It is interesting to see that the changes you tried do not have very dramatic effects on the gameplay. I think it bodes well for our ability to tweak the rules without disaster.
Have you considered trying a few games with all outfield players at 85 skills? Golds and silvers could be given additional cards to maintain their differentiation.