How has the concept of heroism changed over time?

never forget a true an hero

Pfft, in my country its now
> you were bullied and didnt literally suicide? youre a hero

Is Superman and other superheroes the modern day equivalent to ancient heroes?

Arminius did nothing wrong.

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God, it's like I'm really back in the 10th grade.

your pink hair is showing

"Meantime the other [Arete] had drawn near, and she said : ‘I, too, am come to you, Herakles : I know your parents and I have taken note of your character during the time of your education. Therefore I hope that, if you take the road that leads to me, you will turn out a right good doer of high and noble deeds, and I shall be yet more highly honoured and more illustrious for the blessings I bestow. But I will not deceive you by a pleasant prelude: I will rather tell you truly the things that are, as the gods have ordained them. For of all things good and fair, the gods give nothing to man without toil and effort. If you want the favour of the gods, you must worship the gods : if you desire the love of friends, you must do good to your friends: if you covet honour from a city, you must aid that city : if you are fain to win the admiration of all Hellas for virtue, you must strive to do good to Hellas : if you want land to yield you fruits in abundance, you must cultivate that land: if you are resolved to get wealth from flocks, you must care for those flocks : if you essay to grow great through war and want power to liberate your friends and subdue your foes, you must learn the arts of war from those who know them and must practise their right use: and if you want your body to be strong, you must accustom your body to be the servant of your mind, and train it with toil and sweat.’"

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Heroism went from being selfish (Greek) to selfless (chivalry). Masculinity hasn't changed much since ancient times, the only part that really changed is what you do in victory/defeat.

Yes, because both are fictional

Not to much I would argue.
Of course in antiquity being heroic usually pertained to conflict and war, as these things were far more common than in the modern era, yet there were still many intellectuals that were considered heroic for advancing our perceptions and ideals.

I would argue both of these things exist in the modern day, however our concept of moral relativity being as it is now certainly detracts from the organic acceptance of someone being a hero.
I think it has shifted toward our society elevating people who innovate new advancements, fight against the genuine abuses of citizens or groups of citizens, or improve efficiency within our established systems.

Thats because heroism became unattainable at one point and then became watered down

>The morality part came with christianity.
You are a fucking faggot and not a greek Theban manlove faggot, but a sissy.

Heroism never changed, it's a mix of manliness(Heracles), courage(Constantine XI Palaiologos), and self-sacrifice(Achilles, Jesus).

short version:
In classical oligarchical times I believe feats of nobility were considered heroic(like fighting a war and saving your comrades). Nowadays in capitalist pussy times the things I most hear with "hero" is people dying of cancer or getting out of poverty.
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Eat a bag of dicks. The concept of heroism has changed, a lot. The "heroes" of old were just demigods who performed feats of greatness and valor. Morality, much less perfect morality, did not a hero make.

This concept of the hero was baptized, and it became a requirement that in addition to feats of grandeur and valor, you had to at least try to uphold the moral tenets. Thus Achilles, Herakles, and Jason gave way to Arthur, Galahad, etc.

This concept of heroism in turn degraded into the modern form, whereby its thrown around as a meaningless term, and nothing is heroic anymore.

What do you mean? You still have modern heroes. Think of national heroes, every country has a score of them.

>Great men no longer exist in the ense of great men of old.

This is something people have always said. "Great men" only ever exist in the past tense, once their mythologies have had time to develop. i.e., there is actually no such thing

>Mandela
>Gandhi
>Jesus
>Hitler
>Socrates

well, first of all in antiquity "hero" was ALWAYS royalty of some kind

It hasn't.

Those are hardly modern though. They're centuries old.
And, more and more, it's becoming less PC to call them that.

Just remember the hubbub that Columbus day causes every time. Or Jackson's face on money.