Why was everything so innocent in the 40s/50s?

Why was everything so innocent in the 40s/50s?

>inb4 lefty shills

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It really wasn't.

Somewhere north of 450,000 Americans died in combat between 1941 and 1953, and pretty much everything after 1948 was spent in an atmosphere of imminent destruction.

I didn't know proxy wars and nuclear threat were innocent.

Freedom, less government.

After WW2 and Korea that's what everyone wanted.

>don't glorify old times
>be a leftist
How fucking delusional are you?

Except it wasn't, the 1950s were comfy af. Literally probably the peak of American society.

Post-war prosperity caused by gigantic spike in purchasing power, everything became more affordable, 2nd and 3rd gen European immigrants started moving away from their ethnic ghettos to middle class suburbs, rise of consumer society and TV culture.

This isn't true at all. Some of the largest public projects ever were done in the 50s, Interstate Highways for example.

Keep cranking that meme like your agenda depends on it.

All things considered he's probably correct, the era was so prosperous poverty was almost abolished. From the mid 60s onwards it's been a steady decline.

They were trying very hard to create a sense of safe and stable normalcy after the destruction they'd lived through and witnessed, at least in European and other countries directly impacted by the war.

Basically society was wealthy and moral, instead of hollow materialism we have now.

It was crazy materialist because it was the beginning of the consumerist era, everyone cared about their new shiny TVs, cars, houses and vacuum cleaners, but honestly nothing wrong with that. At least they weren't fuck poor like they are now.

>DIE COMMUNISTS DIE
>CONSUMERISM IS THE DEFINING LINE BETWEEN ANARCHY AND CIVILIZATION
>WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT GOOKS, THEY WON'T EVEN SEE US COMING HAHAHA

Censorship played a large role in creating the idyllic 50s image in media and books.

>ALL CAPS

Butthurt as hell. Go away.

Just because their porn came in books doesnt mean muh degeneracy wasn't athing.

It wasn't? Also
>viewing history throug a political lens
>not being as objective as possible
Lol

Hi /pol/. Isn't there a 50's roleplaying event you should be attending

It was for emphasis, i'm a britbong i could hardly care less.

>Bongs this mad that America has been and still is infinitely wealthier than them

Nothing new.

>It's a nostalgiafag episode

Pro tip: you'd be a square back then and get no girls

this, it was literally utopia on earth, mankind had eternal peace and everyone was completely and ultimately happy and in a perpetual state of nirvana, it was the atlantis, promised by G'd, the beffittance of Man, until THOSE DIRTY DAMN COMMUNISTS RUINED IT ALL

>marxist "humor"

Absolutely cucked

>brazilian "arguments"

fuck off monkey

Memes aside, name a better decade when it comes to wealth. The only other one that's even comparable is the 20s.

The greatest generation found a little prosperity. Good people who spent their money wisely and didn't take what they had for granted.

I'm a burger m8

no, you are disagreeing with me, so you are brazilian, I've decided thusly.

Wealth has been growing exponentially since then.
Do you mean inequality?

You know very well what I meant.

>all the Bongs ITT

>there are people who long for the 50s when the 90s happened

No I don't.
An average middle class american or european is much wealthier than 70 years ago.
Even a poor american/european is. Well, not the homeless, but you know...

Nah, America wouldn't like me and I wouldn't want to live there. Your high schools sound horrifying, like they teach you how to be an American there rather than how to be educated. Combine that with the overly religious, puritanical culture... not for me nigga.

Anyway, we were talking about the fifties, not the present, so i'm hardly salty. Of course you're wealthier than us.

someone post the pic of black people standing in a bread line while there is a poster of a happy middle class white family above them.

Percentage of Americans in the middle class and social mobility. The 50s upwards social mobility was unprecedented.

If you mean this picture, that's from the Great Depression, not the 50s.

...

Ok.
That's an entirely different concept than wealth though.

I'd still much rather live today than marvel at how my social mobility can afford me a colour TV and a brand new car though.

Except color TV back then was like an expensive VR set today, you have to adjust for technological level.

> you have to adjust for technological level.

Herein lies the problem, I'm willing to bet you wouldn't want to live at the dawn of the stone age, even though you'd marvel at the adoption of using stone as a cutting tool (adjusting for the technological level).

thanks lads, I needed it for my his folder.

I wouldn't time travel to the 50s either, your point?

>the 20s

What is the great depression

my point is, nostalgia based on delusional ideas of "wealth", "innocence" and "non-degeneracy", experienced almost entirely through propaganda pieces, are silly

Only started in '29.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roaring_Twenties

I'm not being nostalgic about anything and I'm not even the OP, I was just stating raw facts. It seems to me you're the one with a clear agenda to push.

>nostalgia goggles: the thread

I don't think anyone ITT lived in the 50s user.

>raw facts
>some vague notion about an abundance of wealth in the 50s

uhuh

Because you keep looking at media where everything deliberatly is innocent. It's like some guy a hundred years from now watching dumb sitcom on the Disney channel and wondering why everything was so innocent back in the 2010's

Are you the frustrated Brit or some different poster?

I think you'll find that what you posted is a graph of income growth.

If that's the metric for wealth then African shitholes are amongst the wealthiest countries in existence, since their income growth is probably the highest, percentually.

>Wealthy and moral

Wealthy, yes, Americans had more money than ever. Moral, no. Many considered by many to be very vapid and empty feeling. Just go read up on the Beat generation.

Except you're comparing apples and oranges, African shitholes are in the process of building their countries from the grounds up while America already was a modern, industrialized country in the 50s.

1990's. That decade had wealth AND the post-Cold War pre-9/11 zeitgeist.

Go watch that movie The Lost Weekend, from 1945.

>less government

Don't tell me you actually believe this.

And that still doesn't have anything to do with the fact that you're using terms in a wrong manner.

I'll leave you be, it's clear that you're the type that just doesn't let go, you've won.

>From the mid 60s onwards it's been a steady decline.

Not true in any sense.

90s are a strong contender because of how sharply crime rates went down I guess.

So let's sum it up:

>great
20s, 50s, 90s

>shit
30s, 70s, 2000s

>facts

The 50's were pretty prosperous, but you're a fool if you believe it was some utopian time. Leave It To Beaver wasn't a documentary, user. There was the Red Scare, the Korean War, the Civil Rights movement, the Beat Generation etc.

Lol, the 50s were more "materialist" than we are now.

The 2000s were fine except for terrorism hysteria.

>implying i wouldn't turn them all onto jazz and reefer
>implying i wouldn't use my historical foreknowledge to jump-start the counter-culture and mold it to my own means

In the Fifties, there were about 10 huge airline crashes every year. You could buy a round-trip life insurance from a vending machine at the airport.

It goes in cycles of growth and decline, yes. I wonder what the 2010's will eventually be classified as.

70s 2.0

>music scene is dominated by shitty, mindless dance music
>the political lines are becoming blurred
>widespread contempt of government institutions
>economic stagnation
>terrorism is everywhere

Nah, the 2000s were pretty shit. Economic decline, two wars, terrorism on the rise, Russia reverting from being our friend to being our arch enemy once again and then in 08 the real estate bubble burst and everything went down the toilet for a few years.

Not to mention culture, I can think of what constitutes 80s culture, 90s culture, but what about the 2000s? Britney Spears and ipods? Bland shit all around.

2000's were actually a pretty terrible decade. 9/11 puts an end to the 90's zeitgeist and replaced it with a feeling of fear, confusion, and anger. America was thrown into 2 long, frustrating, and expensive wars in the Middle East. Katrina and the government's poor response caused many to lose what faith they still had in the government. Then, to top it all off, we have the single greatest economic downturn since the Great Depression near the end of the decade.

It wasn't. It just looked that way in contrast to the 60s.

the rise of the internet.

So that'd make the 2000's the new 60's, which actually makes a whole lot of sense.

Also I'd change
>music scene is dominated by shitty, mindless dance music
To
>Dance music dominates the mainstream charts, but various musical genres flourish like never before underground.

I think we all can agree that the 70s were the worst postwar decade though, right? Talking about specifically just America now, I know the USSR was going through their golden age basically.

It's a bit of a wash between positives and negatives with the internet, and the internet culture as we know it didn't become a thing until the latter part of the decade.

The latter part of the decade was when it went mainstream. The early part was when it developed.

The 60's were more of the Soviet golden age, the 70's was more just the aftershocks of said golden age and ended with stagnation.

The 1970's were pretty bad, but the 1870's might have been the worst post-war decade in US history.

I meant post WW2 obviously, not just any war.

I'd argue it developed during the late 90's along with the rise of AOL, personally. Regardless, the internet has had much more influence on the 2010's if anything than the 2000's.

>mfw the 2000s

the "rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic" decade.

it wasn't, they drank..................a lot.

Oh, okay. My apologies, you should have clarified by saying post-WW2 though. But yeah, I'd agree the 70's were probably the worst, just a bit worse than the 60's.

The 1960's was objectively the golden age of humanity, the 70's is when cracks began to form and it should've corrected but we've managed to keep things going with debt

I don't give a fuck what dirty proto hippies thought, they ruined this country.


Good, we should've blown out leftists even harder.

What metrics are you using to conclude 1960's being the golden age of humanity? It was bit of time of crisis in a vast amount of places.

Well, in some ways they were indeed better than us.
There were less divorces, less single mothers (meaning less bastard kids), etc. If I had to guess, there was no happiness research at the time, they were probably happier.

the 80s and 90s.

globally the 90s and 00s.

Ah the "dismissing opposing viewpoints with ad homium and only recognizing evidence to support your confirmation bias" card. Classic.

You sound like an edgy fedora, I wouldn't want you in my country either

>hating on things that make a society great

Go on to evening prayers now

So if the 1990's were the new 50's, the 2000's the new 60's, and the 2010's the new 70's, does that make the 2020's the new 80's? What do you think will happen during that decade?

>faggotry
>abortion on demand
>atheism
>welfare state
>nanny state
>destruction of marriage
>drug/alcohol abuse


argentines were right to throw you out of airplanes t b h

>No chinese cartoons
>Happy
Please

Music gets better?

Women are statistically recorded as being happier back in the 50s as opposed to today. They deserve it for feminism though.

Alt-right go and stay go if you're going to keep peddling your idealized version of the 50's.

>80's music
>Better the 70's music

Fight me

the 80s were obviously more like the 50s, corny music, commies, the swing to the right, are you being wrong intentionally

ah the "being a 14 year old edgemaster" card

I heard it was all the antipsychotic medications and Leave it to Beaver retconning.

1960s were better...more wealth, better cars and birth control pills.