Jonestown

I think Jim Jones sent his son to meet Congressman Ryan in the Jonestown reception center in the capital of Guyana (Georgetown?).

For some reason that I can't remember, he didn't go back to Jonestown; I think he could tell there was something really wrong with his dad and he felt very uneasy about Congressman Ryan's visit. He lucked out and was allowed to leave, then followed his instincts to not return and wasn't there when Jim Jones ordered everyone to commit suicide.

Oh that's a different one than I saw. I looked it up, it's called Paradise Lost and is a marrated dramatization with intermittent interviews by Jim Jones' son, a journalist who accompanied Congressman Ryan on his visit (and was fucking shot on the tarmac! forgot about that), and a handful of other people.

It's History Channel, but it's better than their standard fare; stuff like Jonestown is what the History Channel was made for and does best, an oral retelling of people who lived through a single event.

>*narrated dramatization

People are retarded and will believe in fucking psychic powers, alien warlords, magic crystals, zombie jews, 8 armed blue elephants, and the ramblings of schizophrenic Arab pedophiles

Autism and unawareness.

delet this

What was the name of that documentary about an Indian-American who pretended to be a mystical guru prophet and built up a cult before revealing himself as a fraud to see their reactions?

>The only sitting member of the U.S. House of Representatives to have been assassinated in office.

Als he convinced the church that he was some holy being by doing fake miracles and whatnot

The people of the 60's and early 80s were psycho-fucking-weird. The amount of bullshit cults in the west at that time makes me puke.

>tfw jim was right about everything

it's that or watch a 3 hours PBS slideshow of pics

I'm guessing you don't know much about America during the 1830s-1840s.

Protip: The Mormons were just one of dozens of religious cults to spring up during that time. They were just the most successful.

A Honest Liar has a piece about that in it.

But its nostly about the amazing Randi.

user, you just need to have courage to take advantage of critical situations, like he did during the Cold War (Maybe now is something like BLM or the political scenario), you just need to say what people want to hear.

My parents made part of a nasty hardcore Church when I was a kid. Something like westboro Baptist Church but a bit more radicalized. They also sent me to church camp every semester.
I never had so much gay sex in my life.... those were the days

But the gay sex was part of the church?

No. It's funny the amount ofcloset cases you find in there, though.
I wonder if every church is like that. It was a really homophobic church, and for sone reason full of closet queers. Ah, to be young abd careless... buttfucking roommates during the warm nights of summer vacations...

Came in here to say this.

Historical trivia ftw!

stop user, you're turning me on.

The Death tape is an interesting thing to listen to. Jones basically telling people to stfu as they are dying by his orders.

>I know you're killing yourself and your kids but jesus christ have some dignity
>I'm sure your kid is in great pain from the poison but can you shut him up please???

MKultra project scrapped

the majority of people in jonestown where shot in the back of the head

Fucking coward killed himself with a gun.

Kumare

>"did you realize the majority of the people who left were white"

What a manipulative fuck.Also, man black people were over represented in this cult

youtube.com/watch?v=CMrFCwYAZxE

>Dey, drink this grape drink out of this rusty ass barrel.
>Ok!

That's not how it happened though. If you've got the time and are prepared to listen to something spooky see the clip this user posted

Didn't some folks have guns so they forced people to drink it?

People's Temple was staunchly anti-racist and appealed to people who were poor and were social outcasts, so it's not really a surprise that black people were overrepresented.

PT was kind of a hangover of utopian 60s counterculture-commune ideals. Most cults nowadays appeal to disaffected middle class and lower middle class white people (or sometimes to the very rich who have money to burn on expensive initiation shit)

Listen to the Death tape. People drank voluntarily. The whole ritual had been done many times before, and the concept of 'revolutionary suicide' was a familiar one. It had happened before that everyone was made to drink "poison", and only after they had drank it, it turned out it wasn't poison.

To what extent the people were aware that this time it was the real deal, I don't know. Although the screaming children you can hear on the tape suggest that halfway through, everyone must have known what was happening. They still kept drinking the stuff.

That's sick, is there anymore cases of mass suicide because of some freaky cult?

It's not on the same scale but...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(religious_group)

Also not one mass suicide but a nice historical one for you...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcellions

The most aesthetically pleasing mass suicide of all time.

>This and other UFO-related beliefs held by the group have led some observers to characterize the group as a type of UFO religion. In October 1996, the group purchased alien abduction insurance to cover up to 50 members at a cost of $10,000.[32]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction_insurance

WTF

heavensgate.com/

Their website is still up. It's maintained by one of the surviving members.

Creepy

>Only one of the group's members, Rio DiAngelo/Richard Ford, did not kill himself. He videotaped the mansion in Rancho Santa Fe; however, the tape was not shown to police until 2002, five years after the event.[36]

Can we find the video on the internet?

His son was on a basketball team which played against other teams in the region, I think? The team was out of the compound playing a Guyanese team when the massacre happened, I believe.

>Itt things that never happened

> The company pays the claimant $1 per year until their death or for 1 million years, whichever comes first.
>whichever comes first

God I love that 90's look

Hey man, you don't know what alien tech can do to aging.

>get abducted by aliens and given a one million year life span
>insurance company goes bankrupt after forty years

>he thinks this doesn't happen

>sexual religious oppression

Read a book or two user.

I've read quite a few books, I could read a million and that still wouldn't make your story any more believable.

/x/ is good proof of this.

Pretty sure the Mormon's didn't try to commit mass suicide, or killed some American politician.

Holy shit

Cults are fascinating

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcellions

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_Society

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Solar_Temple

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_Davidians

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_Church

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_for_the_Restoration_of_the_Ten_Commandments_of_God

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Guinefort

I've been thinking about founding my own and making some quick cash off the idiots who believe in it

They did kill several people via vigilante justice in Missouri. The governor actually declared war on them.

Joseph Smith was killed in jail by a mob in Illinois and Mormon vigilantes performed some reprisal kills there as well.

It's not my story, but if you don't think Christians have sent their children to pray the gay away camps which in turned became a fuck fest since it's a camp full of gays idk what to tell you. The Bible Belt is weird

Also how lax people in government were to just about anything up until the 80s, nowadays it'd be insane for a congressman to fly out to a different country basically unarmed with no guards.

Proof that if all your friends jump off a cliff you would too

Had a good joke about it, but the punch line's too long.

>IT WAS JUST A PRANK

great pull

My family (and baby me) were Jesus freaks in the SF Bay Area at this time.
My (pastor) dad had theological differences with Jim Jones, and didn't like his personality, but they swam in the same circles. I know mom had at least 2 friends who died in Guyana.
It's really crazy to think how easily something like this can go so wrong.
Don't follow leaders, people!! Question authority!!!

Globalist Commies using God. Glad they killed themselves.

what the fuck is wrong with California

Fuck yes user.

Many nights I've wasted going from page to page on wiki looking at all of the different ones.

Domestic terrorists too of course.

Timothy did nothing wrong

It always bothered me that they died right beside (and if my memory is right, some aboard) the planes.

To be so close to escape only to still be killed with everybody else just doesn't seem right.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ud4Z9xkre6g
Children of God(now known as the Family International) is pretty crazy too.

The propaganda sex cartoons are weird to read, but the art is surprisingly decent.

Jonestown is legit one of the creepiest, most fucked up things I've ever seen. Even something like pic related I find unnerving just knowing what was going on there.

It wasn't just the mayor. He also had pretty good connections to gay martyr Harvey Milk and current Senator Dianne Feinstein. Jones was a huge player in the San Francisco political scene.

The recordings are terrifying

>(and if my memory is right, some aboard)

Yep. See .

>Larry Layton was a passenger on the Cessna, the first aircraft to set up for takeoff. After the Cessna had taxied to the far end of the airstrip, Layton produced a gun and started shooting at the passengers. He wounded Monica Bagby and Vernon Gosney, and tried to kill Dale Parks, who disarmed him.

Spent 18 years in various Guyana jails and U.S. federal prison and was released in 2002.

>but the art is surprisingly decent.
Good enough to jerk to?

If that your thing then, yeah I guess so. Not a lot of it I can find, and the further I look into it, the less I want to. Just think some of the art look good.

>blaming genetics for your lack of guts

Does anyone know if the Heaven's Gate mass suicide caused a dip in Nike's stock value? I'd love to see the charts.

god damn that's some powerful lean

>I, Marceline Jones, leave all bank assets in my name to the Communist Party of the USSR. The above bank accounts are located in the Bank of Nova Scotia in Nassau, Bahamas.
Please be sure that these assets do get to the USSR. I especially request that none of these are allowed to get into the hands of my adopted daughter, Suzanne Jones Cartmell.
For anyone who finds this letter, please honor this request as it is most important to myself and my husband James W. Jones.[156]

>I am at a point right now so embittered against the world that I don't know why I am writing this. Someone who finds it will believe I am crazy or believe in the barbed wire that does NOT exist in Jonestown."[157] The last line ("We died because you would not let us live in peace.
Why are communists so fucking stupid Veeky Forums

>Pretty sure the Mormon's didn't try to commit mass suicide, or killed some American politician.
YEAH, THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE A MASSIVE THEOCRATIC EMPIRE, S'ALL.

Jim Jones used to be my Whatsapp avatar

My family are indian guyanese. I'll ask them about it later, since they lived there at the time, they probably just saw it as a bunch of weird white people though

Yeah.

A couple people bolted and got pinned down and injected with the cyanide.

It's up for debate how many deaths were suicide and how many were murder.

Apparently one of the reasons the Guyanese government didn't intervene before the suicides was because Jonestown was built on land that Venezuela claimed as their own.

So that way if Venezuela invaded to get their clay back, there'd be hundreds of gringos in the invasion route.

If they weren't they wouldn't be communists.

most of the people at Jonestown were black

This

I don't remember if it was his son or some other guy, but I saw a documentary where his only grudge against Jones is that he shot himself. While everyone was drinking the poison and suffering, the guy went the easy way. For all his talk of equality, he couldn't have bothered to die like his followers.

This!

There were armed battles between the american government and mormon militias in the west.

Oh so that's what Deseret was. I always wondered if it was some injun state in /gsg/ threads.

The middle east seems more sane than the US

>The propaganda sex cartoons are weird to read, but the art is surprisingly decent.
Got any source?

This. When will the "mass suicide" myth die?

>"this generation is really lost, we've got to reach them."
>"I know! lets make a religion based around everybody fucking!"

The also had surprisingly decent music.
youtube.com/watch?v=0RfU5r63AXY

>yfw Mormons massacred over a hundred settlers and tried to cover it up

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

There's too many demons in their fanfiction cult.

I have just read the wiki.
What amazes me the most besides the power Jones seems to have had over the minds of so many people is the lack of security an American government official put into practice while visiting a socialist cult in the middle of fucking nowhere in the middle of the cold war.
Unimaginable for me nowadays.

rhetoric is a sleazy politician's game. dont fret about it

Too much truth

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