No, thanks. I love my life too much to ever wanna commit a selfish and cowardly act like suicide
Owen Carter
As a Pyro main i'm still team heavy, he deserves more tools
Leo Cooper
thanks mate
Nicholas Richardson
as someone who doesn't play much of both classes, i think pyro needs a rework, mostly to fix flamethrower mojo and make the visual flame actually match the trajectory of the damage
Jonathan Thomas
If you want it to work like you want it to then use the phlog
Isaac Gonzalez
Wouldn't those just be bugfixes and already part of the major balance changes already guaranteed?
Dylan Fisher
where are the patch notes?
Xavier James
not out yet
Justin Nguyen
>no pass are we free?
Cameron Bell
>Trips >based >selfish act So you are like selfish for doing what you want with your body and not affecting anyone reatard.
Landon Lopez
Fucking Volvo what the fuck just release the fucking patch notes it's not fucking hard it's not like you will fucking change anything anything else before the fucking patch arrives fuck
Isaiah Cook
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE UPDATE, VALVE?!
Jackson Peterson
dead thread lmao
Asher James
why is sniper the best class omfg
Daniel Sanchez
NEATO MAINTENENCE
Angel Nguyen
>inb4 pyro wins because autists
Landon Robinson
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Hunter Kelly
I picked the losing team.
Leo Peterson
>Shortstop >Added an Alt-fire attack -- reach out and shove someone! ?????
Jason Morris
>All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target
Neat, thankfully they didn't touch the vaccinator otherwise.
Michael Young
THEY BROKE THE MEDIC
AAAAA
Benjamin Smith
Medic Base All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target Previously only available on The Quick Fix Quick Fix berCharge rate reduced to +15% (from +25%) Overdose Increased movement speed bonus to +20% (from +10%) Increased damage penalty to -15% (from -10%) Dropped Mediguns Stored berCharge begins to decay over time after coming to rest
>All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target
Jackson Rodriguez
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
Grayson Peterson
is there no lan option anymore?
Elijah Fisher
>Heavy got nerfed
Colton Barnes
It only just started you retard, start fragging if you want to win
Liam King
is it just me or are these balance changes random as fuck?
Christian Ross
Scout
Crit-A-Cola Added Marked-for-Death debuff for 2 seconds after the buff effect expires The Soda Popper Added "On hit: build Hype" Removed "build hype by running around" Shortstop Added an Alt-fire attack -- reach out and shove someone! Removed +healing bonus Reduced pushback vuln to +20% (from +40%) Sun on a stick Take 25% less damage from fire while deployed
Soldier
The Righteous Bison Fixed a bug causing players to be hit by the same projectile multiple times, causing the damage dealt to vary wildly Per-shot damage has been increased to compensate, resulting in slightly more damage on average Point-blank deals 54 damage (previously 20-80) Maximum range deals 24 damage (previously 14-56) Slowed projectile by 30% Projectile damage reduced by 25% for each enemy penetrated Updated projectile impact sound The Disciplinary Action Reduced duration of speed bonus on teammates to 2 seconds (from 3) The Rocket Jumper Updated model/materials and sound
Sniper
Cozy Camper Now requires a full charge to gain flinch resistance The Sydney Sleeper When fully charged, or when making a headshot, now applies Jarate in a radius Scoped shots now extinguish teammates The Cleaner's Carbine Removed hidden +10% damage taken multiplier while under the effects
Heavy
Natascha and Brass Beast 20% damage resistance now only applies when spun up and below 50% max health Huo-Long Heater Added -10% damage Added +25% increased damage vs. burning players Reduced ammo drain to -4/sec (from -6) Reduced pulse damage from Ring of Fire to 12 (from 15) due to increased damage vs. burning Buffalo Steak Sandvich Fixed "damage taken" multiplier accidentally being +10%, instead of the listed +25%
Ethan Richardson
If I could connect to the item server
Jayden Hall
>nerfed cozy camper
;_;
Charles Nguyen
Spy
Base Max speed increased to 320 Enforcer Attacks pierce resist and absorb effects from all sources
Pyro
All Flamethrowers Added: Direct damage reduces Medi Gun healing and resist shield effects by 25% Medics hear a "healing interrupted" sound when this is happening to their heal target The Manmelter Removed (hidden) 20% fire rate penalty
Medic
Base All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target
ÜberCharge rate reduced to +15% (from +25%) Overdose Increased movement speed bonus to +20% (from +10%) Increased damage penalty to -15% (from -10%) Dropped Mediguns Stored ÜberCharge begins to decay over time after coming to rest
Demoman
Base All boots now require a shield to activate any move speed bonus listed on the item The Iron Bomber Decreased the fuse time to 1.4 seconds (from 2.0) The Quickiebomb Launcher Increased charge time reduction to -70% (from -50%) Increased damage bonus for (max) charged shots to +35% (from +25%) Increased clip size penalty to -50% (from -25%) Removed "Stickybombs fizzle 4 seconds after landing" The Sticky Jumper Updated model/materials and sound
Engineer
Base Level 1 teleporters now cost 50 metal (previously 125) Widowmaker Damage increased +10% when attacking the same target as your sentry Eureka Effect Reduced "50% less metal from Dispensers and Pickups" to 20% Added "Teleporters cost 50% less metal" The Short Circuit Base projectile attack is -10 metal (hit or miss) and then add -5 metal for each projectile destroyed (sometimes a buff, sometimes a nerf) The Pomson Fixed an exploit with shooting through your own buildings Increased close-range damage to 72 Reduced long-range damage to 32 Updated projectile impact sound
Nathan Jenkins
what is this casual shit
Justin Wilson
ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS IN THE PERFECT STRANGER CRATE??
James Allen
>Heavy vs Pyro war >Heavy got a gun buff to benefit from afterburn >mfw
Landon Harris
i am now a spy main
Evan Jenkins
wew
Nicholas Edwards
Yes.
Thomas Brooks
pretty cool actually do the rockets look any different
Charles Campbell
Strange parts, Strange love and war items i believe strange natasha degreeser powerjack and sandvich
Cooper Foster
sydney sleeper is viable now holy SHIT
Noah Moore
what in god's name is the point
Mason Martin
>All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target pocket scouts ww@ ????!!!!!
Sebastian Campbell
Is the medigun speed buff that big of a deal? Medic is already one of the fastest classes. He'll have to hook onto a scout for this to matter.
Carson Bailey
ty
Levi Robinson
I can't think of any of these changes that I out right hate although for scout I don't think the sun on a stick buff is enough, same with the cozy camper and the Natasha nerf seems too harsh
Christopher Myers
>not gunboats JUST FUCK ME UP TO BE HONEST
Colton Wright
This is idiotic and looks fucking terrible.
Juan Torres
>scout can now airblast nice one eric
Joseph Hughes
why does the shortstop keep getting memed on. every change for it didn't make sense at all
Nathaniel Smith
>a 1kg Scout pushing a 20 ton Heavy out of the way
Connor Bailey
this mostly affects the 6s midfights as this means that the medic can get wayyy faster to mid by grabbing a scout
Christian Jones
>mfw people expected a proper update with class reworks and new weapons
James Jackson
I suppose it'd be kinda funny to bully ubers.
Samuel Turner
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Jace Robinson
Pyro change seems a bit extreme regarding medic I'm pissed none of the shields got buffed, and the pompson change wasn't enough
Joshua Watson
"It could be Heavy. Or it could be Pyro. But it's not gonna be both!" >say 2 classes are unbalanced >not rebalancing both hur dur
Jonathan Gonzalez
not shown: his hilarious little grunts as he does it
Julian White
i hope they are just lying and rebalance both at the same time anyways
Evan Edwards
Is that a bison nerf? literally why would you nerf it? it's worse than the shotgun almost all the time anyway.
also, >natascha/brass beast nerf wow that heavy/pyro update better give them something else because they were shit to start with (natascha less so). >quick fix nerf again they got rid of the unique speed matching aspect and nerfed it again for no real reason.
everything else seems ok with me though.
Jaxon Flores
and once again, valve shows they have no fucking idea about what actually needs to be balanced
Nathan Jenkins
The forum post said they'll do it for both eventually, just one first.
I hope it's Heavy who wins, anons, I'm one of the guys that made the better rated heavy set. Go win me those possible dollaridoos
Christian Bennett
Mann Co. Supply Munitions Series #103
The Iron Bomber The Panic Attack The Back Scatter The Quickiebomb Launcher The Ambassador The Reserve Shooter The Degreaser The Powerjack Natascha The Sandvich Strange Part: Damage Dealt Strange Part: Allied Healing Done Strange Part: Critical Kills Strange Part: Pyros Killed Strange Part: Heavies Killed
Lincoln Hall
they said afterwards that both are getting an update, this is just for who gets it first
Jayden Reyes
>they contact b4nny and maybe other pros(?) for insight >literally most of these changes are fucking garbage >even the changes to the maps don't fit what the _pro variants are I'm just so lost on wtf happened, maybe pros are bad at balancing.
John Turner
>no part for kills enemies got by picking up your weapon
>Spy >Base >Max speed increased to 320 (from 300) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Thomas Martinez
>valve servers get removed >watch my favorite community server flourish with life for the first time in years.
Isaiah Brooks
When will the item server return from the war
Ayden Rogers
When will Valve be scrapping TF2 and making TF3?
Brody Reed
Never
Nathaniel Allen
>swiftwater is finally an official map thank christ above
Dominic Walker
also never
Bentley Perez
>can now disguised as medic and even the extremly detailed fuck can't tell the speed difference This is so fucking funny on many levels, can't wait for "diguise as scout and get the same speed as him" buff.
Juan Brown
>DDS is out of the nerf zone for yet another year
Owen Perry
I MUST KILL FAST BUT BULLETS TOO SLOW
Ethan Myers
>can't join favorite servers anymore because they're full
William Green
>shooting a medic with the pomson 6000
you can always tell when they start to panic
Ayden Carter
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Luis Edwards
Thanks Valve. I just want my Disgaea hats.
Mason Barnes
i feel kinda sad that quickplay got removed It should have been all three things Quickplay Casual Comp
Kevin Cox
upward's gonna be swarming with scouts for months
Jason Bell
>actually included the HW from Doom 2 I'm impressed
I thought the Soldier changes were going to be big.
Kayden Adams
You still have non-valve servers. I think casual play seems fun, tho, it's just like quickplay but without being able to leave for the round.
Xavier Rogers
not really, unless it's a "rare" or the box itself is rare it will quickly go down
Jaxson Thompson
Quickplay was fun. Find the mode, find that map you like, and play away in a varied skilled pub match.
God I'm gonna miss those simple times :(
Cameron Hill
The prinny knife is a fucking weapon.
Landon Moore
are all custom huds not working because all I have is just a thing to make damage numbers bigger and that's not working. the default numbers are so tiny you need a magnifying glass to see
Elijah Ward
>meddling with base movement speed this can't go well