/pdg/ - Payday the heist, and Payday 2 general

This is what I get for res'ing a bot from getting downed.

They just run in and fuck up stealth.

>bots
>stealth
>bots going down in stealth heists
Explain?

12th for the key asset on bank heist

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stealth bots mod when?

As you can see, Clover fell off the roof and got downed.

Then she ran in and got caught by the guard the host had highlighted.

You can't hear it in the webm but Clover fired first, then the Murky shot back and alerted the map. So it seems bots can shoot people in stealth with unsuppressed weapons without making noise.

Bots aren't active in stealth at all fix your mods

maybe a guy who was playing as clover fell and then he quit

That'd be an interesting project.

Give bots perfect stealthing algorithms for each map, maybe even giving them specific objectives like achievements or doing specific things or doing as many things as they can. Then watch them loot a map without getting caught.

That or make a generic stealthing AI and sic them on any map.

>stelfing with pubs

r8 my new mask

CRT monitor magnetburn/10

>maybe even giving them specific objectives like achievements
Maybe I'll finally get my Entrapment achievement.

>he doesn't have 100%
shitter

>not keeping it kawaii

4/10

someone link me best dw build

youtube.com/watch?v=TCD8buf2hG0

Guys, are you experiencing issues in the game atm?

People in the games I join seem to be stuck.

>stuck
In shit tier? Yes, I'm running into people with that problem as well. Kinda annoying desu.

money bundle for melee, bronco and suit
will try

The game seems to be completely broken. Suddenly there are no enemies, others seem to be stuck. Hosting games doesn't help either.

Make sure you play a big heist

this general is still alive ? lmao

With the skill tree revamp everyones got inspire aced

GET THE FUCK UP

Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Mellon (voff_4)
- Vlad Is Mad! (vlad_4_jobs)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

DON'T ACT DUMB!

Snek heister when

Are custom perk deck mods considered cheating? Saw some on last bullet and didnt want to dive in before I goofed.

Everything is cheating including DLC

WTF How did I get 9 cable ties

If you have to ask...

Fully Loaded Aced rolls a chance for a ziptie on ammo pickup for the team. It's hilarious.

sale shitter here

I've been lurking in silence for a while and have a few questions.

What are some good contracts if I want to solo stelf to git gud?

What is ECM rush?

Which dlc's should I buy?

chance to get one whenever you pick up an ammo box

If it gives you an advantage that a player normally wouldn't have, then yes, I would consider that cheating.
this game is already pretty easy, why make it even more of a cake walk?

>What are some good contracts if I want to solo stelf to git gud?
Most stealthable Bain heists (not the DLC ones, at least for a saleshitter), Election Day, Murky Station
>What is ECM rush?
When you drop an ECM and rush into the location, killing guards and controlling hostages. Usually done in Jew Store for card farming
>Which dlc's should I buy?
For stealth? None, really. Probably Clover for the deck
In general? AK/CAR pack, BBQ pack, Hotline pack, Western pack, Sydney, Sokol, Dragan, Jiro, Gage packs
Don't fucking touch the Chivalry packs, the Weeaboo and Cowboy packs have better bows/crossbows and the melees are shit

Unless you like the masks, then go ahead and be a good goy rat

>Sydney
Why? Shit deck, shit character, shit weapon.
>no mention of best gun DLC

I saw one of those mods in action the other day.

The host doubled the Grinder regen rate but halved the duration and said it's a "balanced and fair change". Then he proceeded to have a punching fight with a DW blackdozer with a suit and his health basically never went down below 100%.

WHY DO THE GUARDS NOT LEAVE THE MAP LIKE EVERY OTHER HEISTS' GUARDS?

AAAAAAHHHHHHH

>turn on increased damage to 1-shot everything
>turn on no-recoil
>play DW all the time and carry shitters

this is what fun feels like

>shit deck
you take that back

ON YOUR FEET

SHOT
THE
FOCK
UP

>non-shit female character never ever

GET UP

SNAKE
HEISTER
WHEN

The Swedish developer are cucked into believing that if they make any kind of female character that doesn't have the personality of an ultra-violent psycho, then they must be objectifying women with their cis-het white male privileged beliefs.

don't bring your faggotry into a pdg. We don't care about your politics and just want to shoot cops.

Spotted the butthurt Swede

The deck is the current meme deck that everyone fawns over.
>Historical pack
If you really think $4 for one decent gun is a good deal, suit yourself. Nagant, sterling and broomhandle are a waste of money right now tho.

>sydney - solarpletex
>guards - /pdg/ when he posts a webm

>he thinks everything is alright in Sverige
rt.com/news/310757-sweden-malmo-blasts-crime/
fof.se/tidning/2015/5/artikel/darfor-okar-de-kriminella-gangens-makt
speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2119/journalist-went-to-swedish-no-go-zone-to-interview-stone-throwers-was-stoned.html
ibtimes.co.uk/sweden-gay-march-through-mainly-muslim-area-stockholm-called-provocative-by-anti-racist-1513240
thelocal.se/20160506/blue-flight-swedish-cops-quitting-in-droves
speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.676/sweden-to-reward-returning-isis-jihadists.html
thelocal.se/20150409/containers-set-to-become-homes-for-swedish-students
zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-05/swedish-politician-says-its-worse-when-swedish-men-rape-women-compared-when-immigran
breitbart.com/london/2016/05/15/leftists-greens-block-bid-to-officially-recognise-isis-killing-as-genocide/
speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.800/is-terrorist-were-swedish-television-s-expert-on-islamophobia.html
thelocal.se/20151115/swedish-city-is-largest-recruiting-ground-for-islamic-extremism

Nagant is only useless because there is no Obrez modification that'd allow it to get the highest conceal among snipers, with the caveat it isn't silenced and has terrible stability.

So it's been a fucking while since I played this. Last I played it ICTV was dog shit and LBV and BV were the best armors and you had to level dodge.

Did the game just buff everything or something? I got top tier in Fugitive revive, Enforcer additional armor (but not aced for ICTV), Mastermind Revive with Ace, and top tier in Ghost (but not aced since my concealment with LBV and BV is already enough to take advantage of the unaced version of the Ghost top tier dodge thing.

So whats the optimal build? Last I remember you had to SCROUNGE for points and appropriate them well. Now I reached top tier in SEVERAL trees.

Did this shit get easier? Also Crook or Rogue Deck? I assume Dodge is still vital and what you GENERALLY do for deathwish, right. ICTV still shit?

64th for Sexy Dallas

Literally pick anything you want the game is easymode now

>buying and selling a shitton of Moist Nuggets for money after infamy

post best heister

opinions welcome

>mfw selling the biker safe for 0,80€ Why do people buy this shit most of the skins are worth less than the safe itself

Jimmy.

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Flechettes subtract 3 damage, and add 8 accuracy, and the capability to penetrate tan armor, as the description states.

What the description does not state is it modifies the range values. A shotgun by default has a minimum and maximum range of 10m and 30m, doing full damage from 0m to 10m, 0 damage past 30m, and linearly decreasing damage from 10m to 30m. What flechettes make this is 20m to 54m.

A Raven has a base damage of 59, with Flechettes decreasing it by 5%. Because of the decrease in damage being linear, a flechette does more damage on any target past 11 meters.

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot(y=56, y=59, y=177/2-59x/20, y=1512/17-56x/34) x=0..54, y=0..59

>cheating shitters everywhere with every single skill aced
>except the two skills that are most overpowered right now

Yeah, I sorta got that feeling. With the suit you can get 50% dodge but with BV you get like 140 armor and 35% dodge.

I looked over some things and it looks like you can tank damage with the ICTV now so it isnt complete ass

Did some deathwish heists and either the people are good or it was....really easy

Daily Reminder

Dodge is shit

>Murky Station
Is actually harder than Shadow Raid.

not really, you just have to go slow. It's quite difficult to get cornered in MS like you can in SR (those fucking stairs)

Are you kidding me? Murky Station is only hard if you're going for Looting in the Dark.

Stealthing with pubs is dumb as fuck.

>page 10

Does Overkill work on HE guns now?

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>What are some good contracts if I want to solo stelf to git gud?
Basics are like
- Jew Store / UK Job
- H&T
- Nightclub
- Four Stores
- Art Gallery
- Diamond Store

Then the more challenging but not torturous ones are:
- FWB
- Shadow Raid
- Murky Station
- Election Day
- Big Oil (at least, to the point when the alarm is guaranteed to go off)
- Golden Grin Casino
So once you get the basics down, these would be good practice.

Then you have the "I hate myself and fun" stealth heists like:
- Framing Frame
- Dockyard
- Big Bank
- Train

I'm still unsure where to put Diamond. I think it's in-between the last two. Maybe GGC-tier of frustration for a medium payout.

>What is ECM rush?
When you put down ECMs to just skip the stealth. For example, 4 people with 8 upgraded ECMs would have about 4 minutes of ECM time. That lets you go in, do a bunch of objectives and loot, and get out.

OVK (and the Steam forums) got very butthurt when people reacted to Infamy 2.0's shitastic release with ECM rushing every Shadow Raid DW pub lobby ever so every new heist they released since Spring Break have had ECM counter-measures like objectives and timelocks not working when ECMs are running.

>Which dlc's should I buy?
The ones at a sale.

No it ain't.

They don't trigger the skills but they do benefits from it once it's activated

You mean OVK aced or basic?

>Tfw you spend few hours trying to solo stealth Big Bank and then finally make it

Is this some kind of ironic joke?

Ive only been playing since the diamond heist was released, what used to be different about SR?

Fuck off, contrarian hipsters.

calm down

I just updated Better Bots so I'll see what I can do.

A two-objective stealth map will never be "more difficult" than Shadow Raid.

Cool.

Sounds like a hard project though so don't kill yourself doing it if it turns out it sucks to do.

Is there something you want to tell us, you little shitter?

started playing again after I bought some DLC on the sales. Been using the MG44 which I got all the attachments I want for it and the sterling. I'm yet to run out of ammo ever, yet I remember ammo being hard to come by, did they buff that too or is it DLC being pay to win

Ammo pickup values were reworked several times in the past year. Depends on when you left I guess.

>Can completely control the entire basement with a pager to spare
>Dont have to though, as the entire basement can be navigated by vents
>The location of all mission equipment and drones is loudly presented by distinctive sound effects
>Guards all have simple and observable patrol patterns that don't change
>Plenty of trains to hide under
>Set amount of loot, 2 downstairs+12 upstairs+2 mission bags
But nah, you're right, Murky station is actually a real ball-buster and we're all just being hipsters.

PUNKASS
COCKSUCKER
LITTLE BITCH
CLOAKER DOWN

>Come back to PD2
>Join a Slaughterhouse DW
>Team looks destined for failure
>Fuck it, I'll try
>Carry the whole game, picking them up and getting them out of custody countless time
>We're about to escape
>Get kicked at the very end

Now I remember why I left, and why I need to host.