youtube.com/watch?v=1dC422Q0x7U reminder that RN ships are the most chaste loyal and courteous battleships ever made, and that nazi ships will be bad
Anthony Peterson
>non-meme OP
Good job user.
Nolan Myers
Let's play a game. We are going to convince ourselves that a ship) is balanced in wows.
I will go first >MOSKVA >This ship is balanced because it has a massive citadel or so according to WG
Jordan Reed
moskva is also balanced because it's hard to hit things with, those shells fly far to low. they need to speed up the shell velocity
Leo Perez
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Jonathan Lee
So /wowsg/ will WG give KGV her original sea lord Churchill approved 9 16in gun design or the irl 10 14in guns?
Austin James
Its can have longer AA range than any other ship in the game, but it has bad AA. So its balanced. Its also big, so vulnerable to plane strikes. )))))
Brandon Wright
>longer AA range than any other ship in game What?
Sebastian Young
And now im in a game with 5+ t9+ DD per team. Fuck my life.
Luis Murphy
Ah, the good old days :^)
Nathaniel Ortiz
it's base LR AA is 5.7km, While Des Moines has 5.0. So with both upgrades it will have 8.2 as opposed to Memes 7.2
Nolan Torres
Not to mention that CV is buffed so hard in 056 that every fucking person is playing CV. Moskva is having a bad time surviving the swarm of planes)))))))))))))
Luis Wood
It's gunna get even worse when WG buffs us fighter dps in 5.9. sky is gunna be filled. how can WG be so disconnected from their player base carriers are op as fuck.
Cooper Cooper
Ship is balanced, because for a battleship it's secondaries are shit.
Chase Harris
What a nice Nelson.
Joshua Parker
rod-nee is a cute
Lincoln Johnson
Raptor and Anu, I just sent you your tracking numbers via the forums. You should be receiving your wallscrolls tomorrow.
Connor Hall
why didn't you post them here?
Gavin Barnes
P.S. I have my home address on the labels so that if things fuck up, at least it'll make it back to me. I trust you guys to not do stupid shit with my address.
Some people are antsy about personal details being posted, even if it's only the destination city.
Landon Jones
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Kayden Wright
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Jackson Adams
Thanks bby.
t Anu
Jeremiah Barnes
Cute boys.
Easton Ross
Should I use HE on my Hipper or just AP everything?
Side question: what's the optimal play style for this ship?
Jackson Diaz
The "Sell" button.
Cameron Fisher
>ammo Standard cruiser ammo rules apply to Hipper, really. You may consider using AP at long range for the occasional troll plunging fire citpen, but for every one of these, you'll get like 30 0-dmg bounces.
>optimal play style Inebriated and crying.
Nathan Brown
>30 0-dmg bounces not in the hipper. It will reliably pen BBs at long range, 4-6k damage on average. Cit pens are rare though.
James Flores
Sounds like someone wants pizza
Gavin Howard
How do you allchat quick messages?
Caleb Davis
>it will reliably pen BBs at long range
Levi Jones
>try to buy some dubloons to retrain captains >paypal transaction fails for no reason >do it directly through my card >"your bank does not authorize international transactions" >just bought Warspite on Thursday and everything worked fine
????????
Colton Johnson
>being this shitty in the hipper
Joshua Long
looks like some romanian( jake ) stole your card and maxed it goy. just use your debit like a good boy :^)
Matthew Rogers
You're the shitter here if you think German AP "pens well"
Nathan Allen
don't bother with him. naziboo autispara's are incapable of playing this game well
Gavin Carter
I played the Hipper a bunch pre-buff with an average damage of approximately shit and a win rate of about fuck me.
Picked it up to try the changes and also train a captain for the German BBs.
It's a lot better than I remember (per stats card, all Hipper matches). The acceleration upgrade is so useful, it's much easier to dodge shots with speed than your terrible turn rate. HE does respectable damage finally, and it's useful to switch often based on your target. Always AP on any broadside battleship at nearly any range. If you're not often landing ~4k AP salvos on a broadside target even at max range, its your aim that's bad, not the guns.
Against cruisers, learn to hold your shots for those AP salvos, it's worth it. One 15k double citadel+ is better than 4 2k single penetration hits.
Gavin Morris
>announce to report any higher tier below me on the scoreboard if we lose >end up reported three times
When will they learn?
Jeremiah Bailey
Even Königsberg and Nürnberg will do this. Are you silly?
Cooper Reed
Post stats then. Show me how Hippper is a good cruiser and not massively outclassed by Atago/Mogami
Josiah Sanchez
it's OK, no one will judge you if you can't play Eugen-chan
Brayden Russell
Thanks for the input mate. I'll see what I can do with hipper's HE. :P
Josiah Sullivan
This is fun
Ian Taylor
I'll be over here with my Atago getting 8k HE salvos while you plink off my bow with your shitty AP
O and I can heal too nigger
Matthew Myers
>tfw 11 win streak with div mates
T-thanks goys
Bentley Kelly
>8k salvo
You don't actually own an Atago. Anyway, is it me or does the nippon 203 mm HE seems to be far weaker than before, with a lot more bounces and 0 damage shots ?
Ethan Parker
It's pretty easy to get 10k HE salvos on fresh BB superstructure.
Juan Lewis
>with a lot more bounces HE doesn't bounce
Ryder Kelly
>get a tier 10 game in my Tirpitz >Yamato sitting broadside at 10km is immune to AP shells from my and a Montana >deletes the Montana through his bow >Zao's sitting at 19km invisifiring lighting 2 fires each salvo >Des Moines tries to ambush one around an island >it just torpedoes him while angling and bouncing all of his shells >Hakuryu basically just deletes our Midways squadrons
why would anybody ever play that tier
Brandon Stewart
Well, when they still have AA on them it's easy to strike 5-6k salvo, 8k seems too high for an Atago though.
I was using the term improperly, what i meant was non damaging hits.
Alexander Clark
>moving goalposts this hard I said shooting AP at BBs at long range, not at cruiser bows. Also, don't be so butthurt.
Nathaniel Morris
meh, i can pen Yamato broadside in my Hindenburg when i get within 13 km.
Levi Davis
I'm butt hurt because I grinded to Hinden and some faggot is trying to tell me German AP pens well. It has the worst normalization and Krupp values in game so fuck right off. When you actually pen you do great damage, but that doesn't mean it pens well.
idk what to tell you senpai I get them with regularity at the beginning of matches on both BBs and cruisers
Chase Gomez
>13km At which point Yamato can easily delete you. And Des Moines can do this too, while doing more damage and having a smaller profile too.
Levi Hernandez
Hipper is good for ______.
Jason Rivera
Anal sex.
Hudson Taylor
The question is, why has no one ever raised the issue of shit krupp and normalization for botes which are supposed to rely on AP?
Leo Rivera
Which botes do I name my Pokemon in Pokemon Go after?
Chase Hernandez
Fugg man, when i was young pogemon wasn't a weeb bait with animu characters
Blake Reed
Because a Hipper that can pen at any angle is called OP as all fuck. USN cruisers get good AP normalization because they have retarded shell arcs and its difficult to reliably hit cruisers past 12km
The only good things about German cruisers are good velocity guns and high AP damage. Your high speed shells give little time to react but after an enemy angles you're SOL.
Parker Adams
jej
New Konigsberg is breddy gud.
Ethan Perry
Nagato is good or _______.
Gabriel Robinson
Nukes
Nolan Gonzalez
AA effects gone again?
Zachary Perry
Sell Farragut y/n? What are the high points of later USN DDs?
Adrian Ward
Y Get Jap DDs again.
Zachary Martinez
So I went nuts and spent 40 yurobucks on ringing muh shipfu. How badly did I fuck up?
Easton Howard
No reason not too. It's an enjoyable enough ship, but you could club harder in a Nicholas against lower tiers.
Everything from Mahan up is a high point.
Kevin Stewart
It's an excellent ship, arguably one of the best cruisers in the game, and tier 8 prems go a long way towards credit/freexp grinding.
However, you fucked up because you bought a high tier premium without having any experience at those tiers.
Michael Richardson
Atago's a good ship, but it's pretty brazen when you've barely played any games. It might be a waste if it turns out that this semen slurping shipfest is not for you, but it is your money and WG doesn't really do backsies.
Josiah Gray
Atago is a god tier silver earner so long as you have a decent commander - which you don't
I highly recommend getting to Aoba and trying to unlock Demo Expert at the very least before using Atago.
Camden Thomas
Thanks for the advice guys.
Nicholas Rogers
Don't forget that because the atago is a premium ship you can put any of your cruiser commanders in it to train them up, without having to retrain them. It also makes it so their skills work while retraining.
Dominic Bailey
Raping cruisers and destroyers with secondaries.
Ryder Walker
Already meming with Hatsu.
>Everything from Mahan up is a high point. I guess I'll sell her then. I'll rebuy Clemson if I want to go clubbing.
Jonathan Butler
>armor
heheheh
Elijah Barnes
Don't forget, never sail broadside to a cruiser/battleship. Or your 40k hp will be gone fast. This applies to every cruiser
Luis Martinez
Hotel isn't immune to 16" guns at 10km.
It's immune to idiots at all ranges, though. Get good.
Ayden Martin
>15" AP shells repeatedly hitting at the waterline and doing no damage at around 10km
?????
Henry Adams
>16 = 15
?????
Chase Smith
Is this before or after the Essex/Midway nerf?
Henry Cox
>get a tier 10 game in my Tirpitz
Also those guns have essentially the same penetration at that range.
Xavier Howard
What 3-point skill should I put on bottlesheeps? Haruna specifically. I don't play them much.
High Alert seems only vaguely useful, it's like 8 seconds off Vigilance... just use WASD hacks Superintendent? I've never had a game where I could use a 5th healpot
Carson Moore
Then the only conclusion is that you missed his vertical armor because youre a shitter and because tirpitz has fucking trash sigma
Jacob Lopez
Superintendent, because it's the least shitty.
Jackson Collins
Atago is crazy good. But I recommend you try to get some experience in at least Furutaka/Aoba before playing her.
Charles Nguyen
*heavy breathing*dess
Carson Watson
>1.8 sigma >trash
Wyatt Jones
Where is the one of Hotel driving?
Nolan Cooper
Superintendent because it can be occasionally useful especially for aggressive BBs.
HA is kinda shit and vigilance can be made up for by other things, namely a brain and common sense.
As far as the extra healpot is concerned, it's better to have it and not need it rather than to need it and not have it.
Carter Jenkins
>4x2 with fuckjing 1.8sigma >Not utter trash
Have you just never played an accurate ship before?
Jacob Ortiz
:(
Ayden Thompson
its fine desu senpai
Jaxon Lewis
Amazing teams today
Julian Russell
Don't have it saved on my phone sorry
Grayson Morales
sounds like you're just shit fampai
Grayson Hughes
>terpitz has good accuracy toovarish don't worry about it >4x2 is fein goy son't worry about it german BB's will be op
Carter Barnes
My personal quest to become the top player in at least one ship is progressing steadily. Those top four's stats are really scary, though.
Jordan Wood
Which ship? Also, it doesnt count until you get into the top 1 for 100 battles.