Was fascism needed to prevent the spread of communism to central Europe?

Define "liberation"

>commies were planning an invasion

??

Living a free life and earning proper compensation for one's labor

No
Drop dead, nigger

That's not the Soviet Union was and no communist society has ever implemented such practices.

no

pathetic cucks

Says the leftwing cuck

Pathetic cuck

It never ceases to amaze me that there are still Communists. It is as ridiculous as believing in alchemy or any other philosophy that doesn't work.
To answer OP, not necessarily. Nations will cooperate when a threat is dire enough.

Why should Communism be defeated?

Why shouldn't it be? Why should it even bother to exist?

Because it's the default.

no u

It's not

It is. You will never find a capitalist animal. You will never find a capitalist honest to capital.

No it isn't. Communism is an unpractical theory made by some silly academic

Some commies claim that happened in Catalonia.

>Unironically defending the Soviet Union
>Calling other people cucks
1/10 at least be original if you're going to bait this hard

>No it isn't. Communism is an unpractical theory made by some silly academic

Insects. Moles. Monkeys. Buffalo. Apes. Elephants.

All are social. None are capitalistic.

The opposite is true.

If it was, we'd be eusocial animals.
As an economic system, the default would be essentially what happened throughout human history. Mercantilism and capitalism have been it.

Because it's a toxic ideology that's dangerous for everyone that's not a bureaucrat or an academic.

>As an economic system, the default would be essentially what happened throughout human history

You assume that a majority of written history is a majority of human history.

We've lived over forty times the period we've written of.

>Because it's a toxic ideology that's dangerous for everyone that's not a bureaucrat or an academic.

Great use of academic buzz words to criticize academia. Great use of hating the intelligent for telling you the truth.

No your logic is retarded. No animal practices economics, only intelligent civilized animals like humans and aliens do. So no communism isn't natural, only a fantasy.

All of those animals are hierarchical based off of physicality or pheromones/birthright and none of them use tools.

The USSR May have been imperfect, but it was miles beyond the societies that existed before its creation and after its destruction

>toxic
How?

>No animal practices economics, only intelligent civilized animals like humans and aliens do.

Humans aren't animals and you know what extraterrestrial life is like.

What a great argument.

>All of those animals are hierarchical based off of physicality or pheromones/birthright and none of them use tools.

Wrong. They are all communal to different extents, and only the mammals use that. Anyways arguing over human nature is pointless.

Arguing over the lack of Capitalism in nature is damning.

Animals survive by working together in communion, not trying to emulate natural selection for the sake of division to over come it, or whatever nonsense.

Buzzwords? Did I say something incorrect in that sentence? Were bureaucrats and academics not the two groups who directly gained the most from the Bolshevik Revolution, because it sure as shit wasn't the workers. I'm sorry if facts convey hate in your mind, but then I guess that's a pretty common theme among modern liberals.

>Yes, commies were planning an invasion.
yeah and that was so flawlessly prevented by the center of europe warring the rest of it and generally doing their best to become the face of fucking evil just so anyone slightly less awful has the argument "hey, at least they're not nazis" on their side

as we know for these reasons no parts of europe ended under soviet control and also nazis caused such huge propaganda defeats for communism and by no means enabled the fuck out of those otherwise unremarkable losers.

Capitalism didn't even exist until the 17th or 18th century, mercantilism for a shorter period.

The vast majority of human history has been manorialist or primitive communist.

>no, YOU'RE a cuck

This is the level of discourse we've reached.

The internet was a mistake.

>Buzzwords? Did I say something incorrect in that sentence? Were bureaucrats and academics not the two groups who directly gained the most from the Bolshevik Revolution, because it sure as shit wasn't the workers. I'm sorry if facts convey hate in your mind, but then I guess that's a pretty common theme among modern liberals.

Who said I said anything about the Bolsheviks?

Read the OP...

*tips fedora* g'day fellow cuckold connoisseur

>Humans aren't animals
Yes they are you moron.
>Wrong.
No it's true dipshit. Animals don't do economics; only survival instincts, fucking, and sleeping.
>arguing over human nature
No that's the point you idiot. Human nature makes Communism impossible. Human nature is what sets civilization, not some half assed theory made by some financial loser.
>Animals survive by working together in communion
But that's not Communism, that's corperation

Lol. Creatures such as ants or termites literally have no free will and are guided through pheromones which the queen controls. All eusocial insects are caste based and decided by birth.

At what period? Revisionism, are we to take independent Albania into the mix? Or anarchist revolt?

What makes fascism alone strong? When it is so obviously weak?

Naturalistic fallacy, therefore Communism

>Yes they are you moron.
Right off the bat, you can't even tell sarcasm.

I'm not reading the rest off this alone.

My point is the most successful social animals who survive millions of years work through cooperation and not division.

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No, allowing bureaucrats from college to determine policy was a mistake.
Sure thing, retard. Whatever you say...
Faggot

>posting anime

No, and it didn't do anything to prevent it. Instead it led to the start of WWII and the soviets becoming a world power.

Nigger, you are willingly surrendering the fruits of your labor to a higher power

But social animals such as ants are the exact opposite a communist society. A caste based system which is controlled by a royal line of a select few in the colony. Also many species of ants are based off of a war economy such Matabele ants which periodically raid termite colonies to sustain themselves. It's still about survival of the fittest.

That's why nobody takes /pol/ seriously

Sure, humans lived in a collectivist manner before writing. But more important than the written word, is maybe the development of agriculture.
After the neolithic revolution, came a surplus of crops, meaning that trade between civilizations, was inevitable. People wanted to barter crops for chickens, textiles, leather, whatever they could. Thus with a steady food supply, could capitalism flourish.

Also, as small as the time frame of written word has been, it's given us a good amount if not most of the knowledge we have. Indeed, we have lived over forty times the period we've written, and I ask: in those forty lives we lived, was their modern medicine? Were there constitutions to limit the power of brutal leaders? Were their syndicates to protect the worker? No, there wasn't. I look at quality over quantity.

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I can if I want to
That's you, jackass

Why would I want to take part in a bloody revolution with the intention of tearing down the old economic order and forcibly redistributing wealth only to end up replacing a capitalist ruling class of bankers and business owners with a communist ruling class of bureaucrats and academics? You're not taking the boot off of my face, you're just changing who's wearing it and killing a few million people in the process.

>At what period? Revisionism, are we to take independent Albania into the mix? Or anarchist revolt?
I'm going to assume the OP is referring to the period where both fascism and communism were prevalent in Europe, ie the decade leading up to WW2.

>What makes fascism alone strong? When it is so obviously weak?
I don't really know what you mean by this...

>there are people who still advocate for communism
Can't wrap my head around this, you guys do realize the Soviet Union already tried that and failed, right? At least fascists can make the excuse that their ideology didn't have a chance to be proven. Communism was tried for decades and it failed so hard. Russians loved McDonalds when it first opened up in Moscow.

>bloody revolution

Says who?

Fully automatic luxury communism all the way niggaaaa

watch this u commie faggot
youtube.com/watch?v=amx-JHhtsHw

>I don't really know what you mean by this...

Fascism failed.

It's been more successful than Fascism, truly.

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wow, communist butthurt status: anally pulverized

This.

Wrong person, nigger!
>Fascism failed
Wrong, it was defeated
>more successful than Fascism
Uh, no it failed embarrassingly.
I know right

Says pretty much every attempt in history to actually employ it.

Fascism's failure to keep Eastern Europe out of the clutches of the Bolsheviks is more a result of the liberal West's actions than anything else. I think the fascists could have easily triumphed over the Bolsheviks if they had the West's help.

>Uh, no it failed embarrassingly.

More popular than fascism ever was. Accomplished more.

You owe our existence in space to Russia.

>Wrong, it was defeated

Right. It failed. Might makes right.

>More popular than fascism ever was
Hell no it wasn't. Without college propaganda, the idea of Communism would be nothing more than a dead meme. Hell Fascism at it's peak was more liked by everybody who wasn't a leftwing douchebag.
>Accomplished more.
None, Russia owes it's success to the Nazis and allied help. Lol

Operation paperclip. Both the capitalist Americans and communist Russians were chasing after Fascist German scientists and their rocket ideas.

>Hell no it wasn't. Without college propaganda, the idea of Communism would be nothing more than a dead meme

That's why there were more communists than fascists in the 20th century

Too bad they weren't smart enough to design the first satellites.

>Failed
>Defeated
Pick one, troll
>more a result of the liberal West's actions
No it was due to Hitler's bullshitting than anything else. The Axis would've won if Germany and Japan didn't fuck it up!
More post-WW2, troll

>More post-WW2, troll
Russia still had a larger population than Germany. As did China. As did Eastern Europe etc. Even in your occupied spaces, the counter forces always had communist leanings.

Revisionist shit up in this thread,

Holy shit
Veeky Forums has unironic communists? Seriously?
LOL how fucking retarded can you get? That's worse than alt-right /pol/ posters

Germany under Hitler was already failing in the 1930s, get over it. And he had no chance of winning WWII.

>Hitler was already failing in the 1930s

How so?

Nazi military strategy was ass and it defined itself on militarism.

Communism killed 100 million people. How can people defend it?

are there seriously commies in this group or are they trolls

It's just alt-right /pol/ posters baiting. If it looks like a caricature, chances are it's a caricature. There's a few serious socialists on the board, which you see around discussing socialism and capitalism in threads, but there's far fewer, if any, real communists or Stalinists.

MUH ONE HUNDED MILLION

And you people say the holocaust is unrealistic for its large numbers

They're either ironically posting or they are actual retards.

>if you don't agree with fascism you're a communist

Kek. Commies were all slaves to their states. Only members of governement lived a semi-decent and "free" life (as in free to have sex, do drugs, and other vices... Something mere mortals of the USSR were not allowed to do, as they were deemed decadent).

Read the Thought Police by Yuri Bezmenov for more info about the wonders of communism. Good book.

This thread essentially is communist bs Fascist

>As did China
Post 1949, dumbass
>As did Eastern Europe
Post WW2
> the counter forces always had communist leanings.
No they were split, outside Yugoslavia. But nonextistent in Western Europe.
>Russia still had a larger population than Germany
And? Worldwide numbers are what matters
No it was getting better, deal with it.
>No chance of winning it
Says who? Your retarded ass? LOL, cuck please
This

No because if fascism never existed its improbable that would be fascists would support communism, also democracy is a good check as well as communism has never internally overthrown a democratic system, only run down authoritarian states or by means of being imposed by a larger conquering state.

Actually it's bigger. Stalin (60 million), Mao (50 million), and many more.

"Communists" who enjoy History tend to eventually realize they're not Communists when they descover the real goal of Communism is to destroy all sense of culture or identity and that the socio-economic justice thing is just an disingenuous facade.

This

>Says who?

Historical facts are not enough for you?

What facts? All you posted was some dismissive opinion. Not an objective fact, jackass

>But nonextistent in Western Europe.

France says hello

Uh no, troll.