What happened?

America turned to Christian Fundamentalism, allied with Israel and the Saudis, and proceeded to embark in a Crusade to destroy the secular states in the region, ruining forever the dreams and hopes of modernity and westernization of the people of the M.E.

And all due to american greed and american hate.

The fucking religion of peace took over

and now it's spreading its degeneracy to fucking europe while we just fucking let them take over

This.

America happened.

Had a little something to do with it.

Yeah it's only religion's fault. Has nothing to do with war, nope.

I agree that Europe has to grow some balls and stop this madness with the refugees. I feel sorry for them, but running away won't fix the mess back home

it's political correctness gone mad

UK now has a fucking women in charge who wants to implement sharia law

and the EU want even more fucking muslims

they were always influential in the region, especially via their pashtun proxies who use the pashtun areas of the border porously.

Afghanistan was being slowly but steadily modernized at the same time as pakistan was becoming more islamic.
Hell, the taliban studied on the pakistani side of the border before going on to their holy war funded via america.

men are redpilled on women being whores

True, but still, people all over the country were against the government's reforms. It wasn't only influence from Pakistan but also their own opinions

>I feel sorry for them, but running away won't fix the mess back home
Staying in the country won't fix the mess back home and will likely jeopardise their personal safety.

With all the men gone who will fight against the problem? It can't be resolved by itself.

>UK
Can the place even be considered "united" or "kingdom" at this point. Pretty sure Brexit signalled the end of that.

yeah, people always want the good old days. Sometimes they need to be modernized forcibly against their will.

I always see the same cherry picked pictures being posted of Afghanistan or Iran from 60's and 70's
Iran was maybe more secular and liberal but majority of country was just the same backwater goat-fucking religious and poor region it had been for centuries, with Afghanistan even more, only in Kabul would you find handful of upper class people in western clothes and styles.

Yes Islam turned the societies more conservative for sure, but don't pretend they were anywhere on level of Western Countries at the same time period in freedom and liberalism.

Likely those who created and perpetuate the problem will exemplify and begin fighting each other to the point that instability becomes so severe and tattered there's really nothing else to do with the rubble but to rebuild. Usually happens in these cases.

>they weren't on the level of western countries
>therefore they should always remain backward
what kind of ass backward logic is this?

If we're talking mid-to-late twentieth century (i.e.: 50s to 70s), they were probably more liberal than the US would've been at the time.

Theresa May has said she wants a muslamic queen

it's the fucking end days for what used to be Great Britain

As you can see it failed miserably. Russia got involved and they left the country in a worse state then before, and it all kept going downhill from then on.

>Shariah Law
She was praising stuff like Marriage courts of it, she is traditionalist so its not suprising that she would view such a system especially given how much of a joke Britians marriages are

>The fucking religion of peace took over
You realise Afghanistan has been Muslim since like what, the 8th century? Yet in the 80s Islam takes over and ruins it all.. riiiiggggght

I've got my criticisms of Islam like we all do, but pure Islamophobes are really retarded

>they told me I could be anything I wanted so

This. Islamic fundamentalism was a consequence rather than a cause

no she literally wants sharia law and a islam queen

fuck off if you just want to stick your head in the fucking sand

source? I'm curious because she's conservative and I thought conservatives are against that kind of stuff

>no she literally wants sharia law and a islam queen

They stopped sucking american cultural dick; letting their women drape themselves in western degeneracy like skirts and make-up that only makes them uglier and they went back to their own roots and culture.

express.co.uk/news/uk/674489/Home-Secretary-Theresa-May-says-Britain-benefits-Sharia-Law

>UK now has a fucking woman in charge
It's not the first time, but I realized that in a few months the US, UK and Germany will all be led by women, and probably France next year too.

this

That source backs them though, unless you failed to read beyond the headline.

You do know some news papers aren't as reliable as others. This is one of those sites which says we'll all die from a solar flare every few months and warns of -40C winters which never happen.

you forgot
>america and the saudis spent humongous amounts of money to destabilize the country.

Daily express is one of those attention seeking papers
Daily telegraph does proper investigation journalism so trust them

This is Kabul. The capital. Countryfucks were just as they are now.

Goddamn, you retard.
She is implementing surveillance of Sharia courts to crack down on them when they infringe upon human rights and break British law, she just gave a PC talk to reassure Muslims because when you know you're going to piss off a group you don't want to antagonize them verbally too. It's the oldest trick in the book. Of course commentators claim it's "shameful" just like when Western leaders grovel to Third-World dictators.

>but the majority of the people didn't seem to want that
The "majority of people" didn't gave two flying fucks, opium farmers did and they were the first ones to get Reagancare which was transferred to islamists once the administration realised that they(drug farmers) aren't interested in anything but protecting their territory.

Afghans are sunni. Nice try Abdul Al'Saud.

This. The people in these photos are the most liberal members of a cosmopolitan population of Kabul. Afghanistan has never really been quite defined by its cities, though. The vast majority of its population is rural, pretty much the opposite of the United States.

Pashtun tribals, yo. Everyone always underestimates them.

>claim
it is pretty shameful to have to pussyfoot around foreigners desiring to implement their foreign religious law codes on you
any Muslim genuinely desiring the implementation of Shariah Law in their host country needs to be given the boot, and that's a good portion considering what they're taught in their Madrasas

>foreign religious codes
jews have their own religious codes in the UK too dumbfuck.

so not working on the sabbath, usury and nepotism as opposed to stoning women for adultery?
uh huh

And you think Muslims are allowed to stone women to death in the UK do you, half-wit?

if they got their way they would be, sure, but nowhere in the UK do Shariah law zones genuinely exist, you silly fuck, because any implementation of it would go contrary to the laws of the UK and they'd be arrested

I was expressing my distaste for these people and wish for them to get deported as they should already have been due to their absolute refusal to integrate

>if they got their way they would be, sure, but nowhere in the UK do Shariah law zones genuinely exist, you silly fuck, because any implementation of it would go contrary to the laws of the UK and they'd be arrested

So all of a sudden you are aware that other than purely informal voluntary arrangements Sharia hasn't been implemented or recognised anywhere in the UK.

Glad we got that sorted.

The police will just look away, because europe is pc now.

Reminder that RevLeft actually believes this

>it is pretty shameful to have to pussyfoot around [residents and citizens of your country who might disagree with your policies]
Yeah, never go into politics or diplomacy.

>unironically spouting muh islamophobia

Hello tumblr

I've never claimed it was, read my posts again

Muslims certainly want it to be though, practicing ones that is, along with the institution of a Caliphate in many cases

have a study

macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/What-Do-Muslim-Canadians-Want-November-1-2011.pdf

>Opinion about Sharia law is diverse, with a plurality favouring Sharia as an option
available to Muslims dealing with family-law issues. Opposition to any space for Sharia
is strongest among non-observant Muslims (40%) and immigrants from Iran (44%)
while weakest among Arabs (15%) and regular mosque attendees (15%).

I'd never want to, I haven't got the guile, the ability to be a barefaced liar nor the connections

>[residents and citizens of your country who might disagree with your policies]
foreigners shouldn't come to my country and try to impose their foreign ways on me, never never never

thats pretty true during the afghan war though.
did you not remember reagan comparing the telebunnies to the founding fathers.

>muslims want it
and what that does that have to do with anything?

>foreigners shouldn't come to my country and try to impose their foreign ways on me, never never never
Stop being an impotent pleb anytime.

they don't want to live under our law codes and this is quite a large barrier to their integration, so they should be deported
all of them

>>Afghanistan was always religious and relatively primitive and only a small minority were as modern as those women
That's true of any place in the 60s, even in the US. Progressive values flow outward from a cosmopolitan city, and slowly affect the countryside and minorities of a nation. The mere existence of a liberal Kabul elite is incredibly important, because while it's not representative of the country as a whole, over time it would have been.

Maybe, but the marxist governments made a lot of radical reforms that upset a lot of people. Back then the majority of Afghans lived in the countryside. Even today, 70% of Afghans live in rural areas.

They should've taken it slow but they fucked up, and other nations such as Pakistan took advantage of this

See The US in the 60s was far more urbanized than Afghanistan has ever been. Afghanistan has an overwhelmingly rural population. We're talking sub-Saharan African levels. In fact, several SSA countries are much more urbanized than Afghanistan.

I wonder how many fundies in the US would approve of a "Biblical law" if polled. Probably a lot.

>Even today, 70% of Afghans live in rural areas.

2 wars and Al-Qaeda might have something to do with it, eh?

That's all well and good, but it didn't affect the forward momentum the country was taking. Urbanization would increase, and liberal values gradually spread into the countryside. Remember the monarchy was reforming like this for several decades without any interruption from the rural poor, and that the coups and civil wars that came in the 70's were started by urban ideologues, not tribes rebelling against progressive policies.

It's not as if rural people are generally happy with the creeping influence of urbanized liberal culture anywhere in the world, but it's not something that gets stopped violently. It takes some huge and unrelated political upheaval for that to happen.

obviously, Christianity isn't foreign to the US though, plenty of such biblical laws are being or have been repealed already, they were already in the system

>Nation under God
is in the Pledge of Allegiance for Christ's sake

Depends on how you define "fundies." A lot of folk regard anyone who believes in biblical inerrancy to be fundies. You'll find that very few of these actually want theonomy. We do have our theonomic groups in this country, but fortunately they are very small. They're just overrepresented in certain areas and state/local governments. Liberals love to cart out exposes on "Dominion Theology" but there just aren't many of them out there, and they are usually not even taken very seriously in their own denominations. They take over a few churches and that's about it.

That said, probably a lot of Christians in the US would approve of a "Biblical law," the question is whether they really mean it, or whether they just take one side in the "culture war" on a few particular issues (e.g. abortion).

I love this image. Posted continually as Sharia law taking over the UK, when all 5 of those things are illegal or require a permit in UK law to begin with.

Alt-righters don't tolerate authoritarianism unless it's presented in Orwellian guise.

>porn is illegal or requires a permit
>smoking is illegal or requires a permit
>going to a nightclub is illegal or requires a permit
>drinking alcohol is illegal or requires a permit
>gambling is illegal
apart from obvious age restrictions you're full of shit

who defends the UK for being a nanny state?

>>porn is illegal or requires a permit
Yes it requires a permit
>>smoking is illegal or requires a permit
True but it's banned indoors and is frowned upon
>>going to a nightclub is illegal or requires a permit
It says concerts, you need a permit to have a concert in a street, even a single musician needs permission to perform
>>drinking alcohol is illegal or requires a permit
You can't drink on the streets yes
>>gambling is illegal
Okay you got me there but you still need to go to a licensed place to do it

>Yes it requires a permit
for what? purchasing it as a DVD from a store?
no 13 year old requires a permit to type in a URL and have a wank, don't be ridiculous

> but it's banned indoors
for obvious reasons

>you need a permit to have a concert in a street, even a single musician needs permission to perform
you need a permit to STAGE a concert, this prohibits attending them also, probably because music/parties are haram

>You can't drink on the streets yes
no equivalent to a complete ban

>Media censors pornographic content, porn is not allowed to be shown in the presence of minors, some "obscene" forms are banned outright
>Smoking is banned virtually everywhere, heavily discouraged by the authorities with a punitive sin tax and forbidden to minors, selling tobacco requires a permit
>Setting up a concert requires a permit and a proper venue observing regulations, the police can ask you to stop playing music in the street at any time
>drinking alcohol is illegal for minors and drivers, selling alcohol requires a permit
>gambling was suppressed by draconian laws for most of Britain's history, still requires a license and obeying strict regulation to set up, is forbidden to minors, can send players to a psychiatric hospital

>You can't drink on the streets

No true.

Some locations have specific local bylaws in place but generally it is not illegal to drink on the street in the UK (or at least England and Wales, I don't know about Scot and NI law).

>no equivalent to a complete ban
Pretty sure even the Sharia thugs don't barge into people's houses to check if they are drinking alcohol.

>abloo bloo why can't I download child porn and sell crack to babies
libertarians fuck off please

they've accosted people on the streets and been arrested for it

>abloo bloo why can't I get piss-drunk and watch trap porn on my smartphone in public
Fuck off degenerate

>on the streets
"That's not a complete ban"

>Fuck off degenerate
fuck off ahmed

>"That's not a complete ban"
do you disagree?
because it isn't, since I don't look like a child even now I could pop down the pub and get pissed whenever I want, doubt I could do that in Kabulistan or whatever shithole you sprung from

whats the point of watching porn in public anyway?

people should do it in private, your friendly neighborhood Shariah Law Inspector seeks to ban it everywhere though

comparing UK law to Shariah is silly

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Not him, but yes, it's as silly as comparing a fat ginger Muslim appointing himself the mall cop of the streets to actual law enforcement.

good thing I never made that comparison

Taliban didn't fucking exist back then you mongoloid. Read a fucking book rather than just spouting le edgy "TERRORISM IS ACTUALLY AMERIKKKAS FAULT RUSSIA DID NUFFIN WRONG" memes

delete this

First post best post

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>wasn't modernizing the country
>by turning it into a failed state

>It's not as if rural people are generally happy with the creeping influence of urbanized liberal culture anywhere in the world, but it's not something that gets stopped violently. It takes some huge and unrelated political upheaval for that to happen.

Isn't the violence a huge political upheaval? What would have really driven Afghanistan to urbanize is probably infustrialization, as that tends to move people to cities.

Afghanistan didn't industrialize for whatever reason, although the fact that the central government of both the Kingdom and the post-1973 coup were not very strong surely played a part. Industrialization tends to require a strong central government to coordinate economic policy and enforce the law. It was only post-Saur Revolution that the now Marxist government in Kabul attempted to assert its will strongly throughout the country, which was met with violent political resistance.

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>10 rubles have been deposited into your account

Russian overstepping their bounds and conservatives funding Islamists to fite communism

The entire cold war is what ruined Afghanistan, not just the US or Russia or Pakistan.

Bitter Lake by Adam Curtis. It explains just about everything as to what is going on geo-politically including why Afghanistan, Iraq and the Middle East are in the state they are now.
The Afghanistan bit is in the beginning, and yeah it's pretty much the USA intefering and fucking everything up - with Saudi ties exacerbating things when the Soviets invade in '79.
Would highly, highly recommend watching it all.

youtube.com/watch?v=VRbq63r7rys

The modernist (Soviet puppet state that was ruled almost exclusively by Uzbeks) state was associated with that sort of "modernity" for better and for worse. The Taliban, once in power in the cities, brought their rural rage and distaste with the "degenerate" city dwellers along with a fair amount of ethnic rage.

It also didn't help that the broadly unpopular Soviet-backed government ended in a bloody war which still affects Afghanistan to this day.

youtube.com/watch?v=28u4ItL02Fo