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How fares your empire, /gsg/?
This day in history, July 12th: 1562 – Fray Diego de Landa, acting Bishop of Yucatán, burns the sacred books of the Maya. 1789 – In response to the dismissal of the French finance minister Jacques Necker, the radical journalist Camille Desmoulins gives a speech which results in the storming of the Bastille two days later. 1943 – German and Soviet forces engage in one of the largest armored engagements of all time.
Did the other thread just reach the last page or did a janitor delete it?
Jeremiah Hughes
What a time to be alive
Logan Walker
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Adam Foster
Janny just had another autistic meltdown, zero reason for the deletion.
Andrew Scott
The day when common sense prevailed over autists and shitposters. Thank you jani.
Daniel Martin
Jannies confirmed mysoginist
Isaiah Anderson
Reminder that the bottom 5 states should literally be part of Mexico by now
Dominic Lewis
>alaskan peninsula >alaska is a peninsula REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THAT'S NOT WHAT A FUCKING PENINSULA IS
Parker Gray
Brilliant jannies, truly well done.
Going to restart from the beginning of my posts in the 404'd thread.
Now returned from Rome and quite confident that neither the Pope nor her own vassals are watching her too closely, Bourgogne is prepared to initiate her plan. Yet for it to be a success she requires land, and cannot afford to sacrifice her own demesne at the risk of a plan which she is still not certain will even succeed. Moreover, if God is with her--for she does believe there is a God, merely that His will is not clear--and her plan is a success, she will undoubtedly need the fullness of her levies to discourage her vassals from rebelling against her.
This necessitates a holy war, and, thankfully, a target presents itself in the form of a rebellious vassal of the Seljuk Sultan, Umaya "the Cruel," a horrible man who is nevertheless well-regarded in Muslim society for being matrilineally related to the Prophet.
Bourgogne does not much care if he is related to Christ Jesus: his land is going to be hers.
Hudson Reyes
>A peninsula (Latin: paeninsula from paene "almost" and insula "island") is a piece of land that is bordered by water on three sides but connected to mainland.
lad...
Daniel Sullivan
Holy fuck the lads behind SWMH or HIP are dedicated
Jackson Anderson
Post yfw by 1942, Germany has 10 battleships
Anthony Nelson
>07/12/16(Tue)15:50:42 >07/12/16(Tue)15:50:42
Parker Peterson
she better get rebelled against and her head placed upon a pike
i hate cynics, its a disgrace to Christ
Carson Evans
Dont be silly user. USA is Mexico now.
Henry Carter
>tfw you will never live in Gary and date a chick from the Firelands Why even live?
Angel Perez
>only 10 M-Muh place in the sun
Grayson Murphy
>Chinese clay >was owned and colonized by the Portuguese before the Chinks got their hands on it
Fair enough lad but it's a lot easier to keep them contained if they're on an island, it's the best possible Chinese containment zone imo.
Wyatt Lopez
who would populate China then?
Juan Myers
Didn't Willy die just a few days after Barbarossa started?
Carter Mitchell
prove me wrong
Joseph Wright
In the midst of her forces' campaign against Umaya, Bourgogne receives word that her brother, Prince Aubry the Younger, has died of an illness. It was well-known that Aubry was virtually overwhelmed with his position and responsibilities, and it is perhaps not all so surprising that, in such a vulnerable state, an illness could claim him.
While Bourgogne mourns him, she mourns more for the young man that he used to be, neither so burdened by his position nor so hateful towards her rule, back in the days when their father was young. Aubry had grown into a hard man to be around, and his plotting against her--for he supported the claim of their shared uncle, Philippe, in spite of swearing to their father that he would support her reign--only made his presence all the more hard to tolerate. So she mourned him, but she mourned him quietly, and not for too long.
Nevertheless she offers his son and the inheritor of his lands, Comte Aubry, to bury his father in the royal crypt beneath Jerusalem, an offer which her nephew accepts. It is well-known that Prince Aubry, while he stayed in Salamiyah almost always, was not over-fond of his seat.
He is buried next to their father, King Baudouin VI, who is, in turn, buried beside their mother, Gudrun von Limburg.
William Sanchez
>British Siberia
or is it Soviet Canada
Gavin Watson
>cucknada exists DUDE
Andrew Davis
Celts and Germanics as a new United States sort of thing. Japan would have to get Manchuria though.
James Rodriguez
>HoI 4 >France holds vast colonial possessions across the world >Including oil-rich African territories like Algeria and Gabo >Produces ZERO oil
Can someone explain this shit to me? Hell, Africa in general produces fucking nothing except for Chromium in South Africa. Are you telling me Africa is somehow devoid of resources?
Jackson Bell
Sadly, yes.
>tfw no alternate timeline where Wilhelm III leads a successfull Unternehmen Seelöwe and reclaims Germany's place in the sun
Thomas Foster
Canada is green, lads. Britain is red.
Austin Rogers
This is more comfy looking lad
Never forget that is the only reason Africans didn't make civilizations as nice as Europeans. t. Guns Germs and Steel by (((Jared Diamond)))
Evan White
GOY4 is a meme game that doesn't try to teach the player anything, and therefore doesn't need to be accurate. Hell, I'm willing to bet that Germany starts with Tiger I's
Bentley Hall
>those borders genocide yourself
Gabriel Stewart
>giving Canada anything more than the worthless state of Alaska as an American I am triggered
Caleb Nguyen
At the start of the next campaign season and while Bourgogne's war with Umaya is wrapping up, the new Byzantine Basileius, Germanos Petraleiphas, declares war upon Jerusalem to bring Chypre back into the Byzantine fold. The island, which is both incredibly wealthy and strategically significant, has been a part of Jerusalem for over one hundred years, and the Basileius has become concerned--rightly--that it will begin to be considered a natural part of Jerusalem if he does not act to dispel the notion quickly.
The war is inconvenient, but not terribly frightening: Germanos, like a fool, has begun the conflict just as the war currently distracting Queen Bourgogne has ended, and without even seeing himself crowned. What he undoubtedly believed would be a great coup will instead likely turn into a decisive failure for the Basileius, whose support from his own vassalage is questionable without a crown formally adorning his head.
"It is not a great concern to me," Bourgogne writes in her diary. "This Basileius is a fool man, puffed-up and waving his cock about. I suspect we will win easily, and this will turn into nothing more than a donation by the Basileius, from his coffers to ours."
Ian Wood
>Hell, I'm willing to bet that Germany starts with Tiger I's Honestly, that would improve thegame at this point
Adam Rodriguez
Describes without memes what's wrong with those borders.
Kevin Butler
I like to imagine that that his health started spiraling out of control as soon as he read the morning paper on June 22.
Dominic Sullivan
Wait, what the fuck did you just say?
Luke Brown
>Germany rolling out to avenge Nicky Probably died of pure joy
Julian Cruz
>straight lines EVERYTHING
Jeremiah Bell
>the border is a right angle It looks terrible, kys
Justin Lopez
GOI 4 taught me that heavy tanks are unequivocally worse than medium tanks once factoring in production cost.
Is that accurate /gsg/
Tyler Price
Germany starts with "lion" tanks, Italy starts with "il douche" tanks and Britain starts with "religious warrers"
Leo Adams
>GOY4 >GOI 4 What is the meme here, other than "oy vey goyim"?
Oliver Kelly
>>Hell, I'm willing to bet that Germany starts with Tiger I's >Honestly, that would improve thegame at this point Is what I said
Matthew Young
>he doesn't know about GOY$
Ryan Rodriguez
"lion tanks" What? Is that a Panzer I?
Kevin Bell
>baby doesn't know what north america is
Xavier Hernandez
>anything other than straight lines for terrain as shitty looking as this There's no actual reason to dislike straight line borders unconditionally other than nostalgia over old world feudalism.
Sebastian Mitchell
what nation should i play to form india in liquor simulator 2
Tyler Harris
Germany.
Anthony Long
No, Tigers.
The USSR starts with CCCP-43's.
Charles King
Shoah yourself
Noah Gomez
While her vassals are concentrated upon the impending invasion of Basileius Germanos, Bourgogne advances her plan.
When she rose to the throne and began to intently study theology, she did not merely do so to distract the church and affirm her piety, nor did she travel to Rome merely to see the sights; as with everything, there was an ulterior motive to Bourgogne's actions.
In actuality, she was studying heresy.
"All the major religions of the world favor patriarchal systems," ran one diary entry from her time at Rome, "yet many heretical sects favor equality of power. These sects are now virtually extinct, but information on them, and a few bare adherents, still exist. That in itself is a problem--to convert an entire society there must be some basis--but it is perhaps an issue to be handled at a later date. For now, it is far more important to locate a belief system which is both internally consistent and truly equalist in nature."
She searched far and wide for such a belief, both in the Lateran archives and in intense (if veiled) discussions with the clergy in Rome, but each heresy she discovered which preached equality had some inevitable and egregious downside which made its practical implementation impossible. Bogomilism was not only almost extinct and an Orthodox heretical movement to boot (guaranteeing conflict with both the Basileia Rhomaion and Catholic powers), it was also not truly a movement of equality, only allowing for equality of rule rather than of opportunity. Catharism was a much better choice in that it preached total equality for men and women, but it was also a harsh ideology which espoused rigid asceticism and celibacy, which Bourgogne knew no peasants would ever adhere to. Then there were the Tondrakians, which--while it would be popular with the peasants, for men could take concubines--was nevertheless only a religion of equality of rule, similar to Catharism.
Then, Bourgogne stumbled upon Messalianism.
Dominic Anderson
Japan
Jason Nguyen
Does Germany SERIOUSLY start with tigers?! As in, in 1936?!
Logan Gonzalez
I'm talking about external borders, internal borders like states can be whatever. And the one straight line between Canada and the US' border actually has a reason for it being straight (49th parallel), unlike 's retarded suggestion.
Christopher Rodriguez
why
Benjamin Bell
pic Still not explaining what's wrong with straight lines.
They start with 3 divisions of Panzer I's
Andrew Edwards
>QoJ becoming a lucifer worshipper Jerusalem is fucked.
Jonathan Lee
>people unironically build liquor factories when clothing/fabric is the better good
Nolan Cook
This better end in the kingdom just falling to pieces
Anthony Hall
>Messalianism >Guy has Sympathy of Judaism
yes, good goy. convert to heresy and split the church!
Cooper Stewart
>Still not explaining what's wrong with straight lines Borders are supposed to follow geography. The straight line I mentioned IS based off of geography (49th parallel) unlike the retarded lines the other user drew. Even then, using that real world example, the border looks stupid. Canada should really be the 51st state so borders would be GOAT.
Aaron Phillips
If you want a legitimate answer, it's a combination of factors.
First and foremost, the campaign was getting stale. There hasn't been a serious threat to Jerusalem since the beginning of King Aubry's reign, when he shut the Mongols down. With Muslims in an effective death spiral and Jerusalem surrounded by Christians of all varieties, there isn't really any danger to be had. Converting would put me on the back foot again, at least for a little while, and also keep things interesting.
But, as usual, this is also about traits. Bourgogne is exceptional, but has been passed up most of her life for being a woman. She's also cruel and envious (hates the power men wield by position alone), reckless (Brave trait), and patient. She's willing to risk it all in the name of seizing the same degree of power men hold.
We'll see what happens. Either way things will get interesting (provided Bourgogne doesn't die before we get a province conversion, because if she does the Messalian plan is going to collapse), which is most of the point with this.
Jacob Gray
>no puppet Republic of Quebec
disappointing
Ryan Harris
>49th parallel is geography No lad it's mathematics, an imaginary line that has literally nothing to do with the terrain's actual, physical form.
Jose Clark
While Messalianism has its uncomfortable eccentricities--the sacrosanctity of incest, for one, and its veneration of Lucifer for another; the first, at least, could be suppressed in a reorganized canon--it was nevertheless the ideal religion for conversion. Not only was it a very learned religion--indeed, its tenets provided for achieving a state of Perfection through reading the scriptures, permitted its adherents to worship patron saints in addition to God, and did not conflict with the Antiocheian school of theology--it was also a religion which the masses would be eager to follow, for, in the Messalian belief, once a being achieves a state of Perfection their acts are no longer subject to conventional morality.
Yet most important for Bourgogne was what Messalianism preached on equality, and what its adoption would mean for Jerusalem politically. In terms of equality, it was absolute, to her great satisfaction. And, politically, adopting Messalianism was also more expedient than Lollardry, Bogomilism, or Tondrakianism, for each of those were heresies which could never hope to overthrow their strong parent religion. Messalianism, properly, was a branch of Nestorianism, which was a small and weak branch of Christianity existing only in the Orient; by the mere act of conversion she could present Messalianism as the true inheritor of Nestor, and as such no more different from Catholicism than Orthodoxy is. While it would be no sure thing, Bourgogne hoped that, in the process, she might perhaps save her state from the ravages of a Crusade to bring Jerusalem back into the fold.
And even if not, there was the final matter of the Messalian faith--the Army of Lucifer. Messalian scripture dictates that all faithful must heed the call of a Messalian in need, and march under the aegis of Lucifer to their defense. If the Pope was determined to overthrow her new faith she could call up any Messalians hiding in the East to fight in her name.
Bentley Watson
>independent republic of Quebec >not an autonomous state within the USA
it's like you don't want free movement and common defence
Luke Diaz
The traits are an understandable reason.
Though, why not just simply stop playing in the KoJ and take control of some faggot in the North? What about Livonia? Bring the Crusade to the Pagans and Germanize the lands.
Cooper Jones
as long as they keep their language in both administration, society, business and culture
Levi Thompson
>Elects a women to the Kingdom of Jerusalem >She instantly starts working to make feminism a reality in the 14th century fucking hell are you Swedish, AARnon?
Nathan Adams
fuck OFF reddit
bring your AAR back to whence you came
Cooper Nguyen
honestly I would be ok with this
One of the reasons that I, as an American, am so attracted to Europe and spend so much time there is the rich diversity of (white) languages and cultures, which definitely isn't something we really have in America. a few French speaking regions would be cool
Jaxon Powell
Go back to your steangroup, steamgroup shitters.
James Hill
>Satanist Feminists who worship Incest with an Alternate Morality
time to mod this shit out of my HIP install
Bentley Roberts
>Though, why not just simply stop playing in the KoJ and take control of some faggot in the North? What about Livonia? Because I started this campaign as Jerusalem and I want to finish it as Jerusalem.
Skipping around is a good tactic to keep things from becoming stale, but it's a bad tactic if you're trying to create a narrative, which is what I'm doing. I don't know anything about events in the North, and I'd be abandoning all of the narrative work and structure I've already established in Jerusalem.
No. Her traits support it, so far as supporting radical equality in the early 14th century can be supported (which, I admit, it can't really at all). But, more importantly, as I said here something needs to be done to help keep the AAR interesting. This is about the most "just fuck my shit up" thing I can do.
Leo Peterson
>tfw no official Spanish-speaking Florida with white Spanish speakers who are descendants of Imperial Spanish colonists
Gabriel Wright
>tfw no official Russian-speaking California + Alaska with white Russian speakers
END IT
Jackson Sullivan
Honestly I don't really mind this change of pace but your AAR really took a turn down Meme Lane.
Ethan Morales
So in a great slavic holy war for Germany, I, Tsar something of Novgorod, managed to claim all of Germany. I basically gave the German king back all his titles, except he's now my vassal, and some of the baronies and churches in Germany are my direct vassals.
Was this a mistake? Or is this how it's done?
Henry Bell
>white Russian speakers So, like, white dudes who learned russian as a second language? Why?
Matthew Gonzalez
Yet the matter which Bourgogne had ignored whilst in Rome now rears its head: there is not a basis from which to convert Jerusalem. There are supremely few Messalians in the world, and the few adherents are mostly concentrated in the Mongolian territories, where there are still a few pockets of Nestorian faithful.
Yet God is with Bourgogne: Maridin, the site of the great victory of King Aubry and Svietoslav the Bulgar, is on the border with Jerusalem's northern marches, and is an overwhelmingly Nestorian community. The local Bey in control of the land, a Turkmen by the name of Dogukan, has some Nestorian faithful in his court--and one Turkish Messalian, his own relative, Tutus Ertekin.
Under the guise of establishing a "governor friendly to the Muslim population of Our conquered territories," Bourgogne invites Tutus to become the "temporary" Duc de Urdunn. As he is a Turkmen from Mongol lands all of Bourgogne's vassals assume he is a Sunni, and his position as Duc, while supremely odd, will indeed be temporary as she intimates. That is as far from the truth as possible.
"Duc Tutus," she speaks slowly, unfamiliar with the Turkmen tongue as she is, and unwilling to use a translator for such a dangerous order. "I know your true faith. It is time for a rise of the faithful, but I cannot do it without a people who believe. You must convert, do you understand? I need your people to believe, so that mine might."
"Yes, Queen," he replied, head bowed. "In the name of Lucifer, I will make it so."
Owen Richardson
Are you planning on fucking Jerusalem's shit up from the inside?
Is the Messalianism shit going to be permanent? Do you have any far-off cousins that could possibly take back the KoJ from the satanic heretics?
Nolan Moore
Isn't Belarus "White Russia" a literal oxymoron?
Luis Miller
>not creating Russian vassals
nigger what are you doing? your German vassals will have a wrong religion and wrong culture malus
it would make life more interesting on this continent.
Sebastian Roberts
You mean just pick random courtier from my court and grant him the titles?
Benjamin Evans
...
Liam Morris
Looks like Jerusalem is gonna need a good inquisition to purge this HERESY.
Lincoln Ortiz
If you want to convert culture fast you should sort by stewardship, but yeah.
Jayden Ramirez
you can generate barons and then give them the counties and so forth or fire the decision that invites a steward to your court, or you can hand out the titles to people already in your court
the higher their Stewardship value the faster the provinces will be converted to their lord's culture and religion so sort by that
Samuel King
Not necessarily. Keep in mind that I'm still bound by RNG, and if Bourgogne dies before Tutus can achieve a county conversion I won't be able to convert to Messalianism and my heir (who is currently a male) will undoubtedly rip all of Tutus's titles away from him, or make him convert.
Bourgogne is currently 52 (I'm currently in late 1318 at the point I've played up to) and there hasn't been a county conversion yet. I checked the success rate and it's at a 2.5% chance yearly, so there's honestly a very good chance this won't work.
We're going to let RNG decide what happens.
Oh there are claimants to the Kingdom everywhere, including Princes and Princesses of France and Hungary, the King of Yemen, and the King of Hungary himself. It's absolutely possible (y'know, in addition to a giant Crusade being called down on my head) that I might need to face multiple invasions over exterior claims, or internal rebellions trying to place a Catholic claimant on the throne if I do convert.
As I said, we're going to see what RNG decides. I'm leaving what happens mostly up to how the game decides to play it, both in terms of whether I do convert and what will happen if I do.
Julian Campbell
kek
Jeremiah Young
wew lad
Julian Nguyen
>2.5%
Now I just want this to succeed so I can finally see the Alemarici dynasty fall apart and the KoJ given to the true heirs of Jerusalem, the Lusignans.