Pdg/ - Payday: The Heist & Payday 2 General

They don't really need to acknowledge Payday. Especially since the crossover was poorly done and most likely didn't work for them.

I don't even care if they have their signature masks or anything, just the 4 actors (mainly Etebari and Poitier) sitting around in the background. Both actors are relatively cheap, especially for a cameo, and it would mean a lot the fans of this franchise just having that role in a major picture.

>friends finally decided to get payday 2
>they are fucking horrible at it
>Don't listen when I try to teach them shit
>don't listen to me period
This is legit worse than playing with random shitheads, now I remember why I stopped playing multiplayer games with them

Making Melee/Explosive build.
But what deployable? FAKs? Docbags?
Tripmines and make it a Melee/Explosive/FIRE build?

Fully Loaded Ace
Molotovs
Piglet with Incendiary Grenades or Flamethrower
And either a Loco with Dragon's Breath or a China Puff with more Incendiary Grenades.

Don't try to lecture people on how to play.

They're newbies.
They're basically pubs.

Let them fuck around and learn the game for a few hours before you ruin their enjoyment permanently by shoving the meta and powerleveling down their throats.

Bring them into a Watchdogs normal match first, let them figure out the heist and the objectives.

Once its finished, bring them into the same heist on Deathwish and have them lead and make decisions for the team's strategy. In 1 minute 30 seconds when you fail tell them thats why they listen to you and take your advice.

Its worked for me a few times whenever I try to teach a noob pub that came from another game.

Burn 'em, got it.
pd2skills.com/#/v3/eeFlMnOR:tGHJl:gGJKLr:fMoPQr:ibcdea:pI8::w75-7-21-8-23:s32-34-15-42-10:a1
Not enough points to slosh around, might need to refine it a bit more... Forego the mines? They burn lots of points.

Remove your pumping Iron Ace, with Bloodthirst if you have a good melee like the Katana you really don't need that extra damage, all specials except dozers go down in 2 uncharged hits after the 300% buff.

With the Frenzy bug you really don't need Sneaky Bastard not to mention your fire weapons are not the greatest concealment with the exception of a pirate GL40. With that drop you can also drop Inner Pockets altogether.

They failed
on jewellery store normal
16 fucking times before I joined and carried them through their first win
not evenpubs are as bad as they are

For a normal heist Jewelry can actually be difficult when first starting out. Beat cops spawn higher in Jewelry heist pre assault than most others and they can have a high damage output (albeit weak as shit).

The Bank Heists are actually a bit better to teach mechanics because the objective is well near cover, and you can teach them the importance of objective completion and how kill farming isn't worth doing.

Also the curve generally sucks in this game without any DLCs because starting weapons are shit, especially with no attachments on them to buff the stats.

Would you rather that they dont play payday 2?
bossing them around and telling them what to do will surely make them quit very quick.
Trust me i've done it too many times

I don't want to rely too heavily on the Frenzy bug, it's clearly an unintended feature. However, I suppose Sneaky Bastard could be dropped entirely as long as I'm careful.
Running into issues about "Yeah you need x points spent to reach y." Is Fully Loaded Ace worth it? I tend to not use grenades often. I guess it could be justified if I decided to use ammo bags or saws.

... Apparently pd2skills is bugged and it's giving me 16 less points when I reload the link. There's also detection risk issues with the calc.
Had points leftover so I got Swan Song and Aced Pumping Iron anyway, ufyun.
pd2skills.com/#/v3/eFlMOQr:tGHJl:gJLpr:fHjlMOPQr:ibcdea:pI8::w75-20-10-13-23:s89:a1

Would you a cloaker ?

If you're going to go for a dodge build wait until it gets a buff. Joakim in a twitch stream said they are readdressing dodge because its far weaker than armor builds now.

I recommend practicing with some Infiltrator, Muscle, or Armorer builds with ICTV.

yes

Clover confirmed for being a clocker's magnet.

>mixing your IRL friends to Payday 2,

Donac dum

>two days until the release of the dlc.

Hope you prepared your wallets, goys.

What dlc

I have prepared my wallet to sit there undisturbed as I play the DLC once with the DLC unlocker

Whatever that will be tied to these new achievements

>the dentist sent us after a russian lobster, calling himself the commiessar.

>Roller Lobster

Can someone tell me all the DW viable specs now?
I haven't played since times when only 2 specs were viable.(Inspire/ICTV and standard dodge)

Mallcrasher is a better heist to introduce new players with, in my opinion. Planning can be difficult when you're new to the game and not entirely sure how everything works, but when your objective is just "smash stuff" it's barely a step above cowwadooty. Just remind them to stick together in case anyone gets downed, then go clean out the jewelry store and hunt for safes.
t. salebabby who was introduced to PD2 on mallcrasher with more experienced friends, then started lurking here on my own volition after a few games to find meta builds

Will I be marked as cheater for using unlocked preorder mask/color? Or is it just for weapons?

anything

So what Payday 1 heists haven't been remade yet? I never actually played The Heist. But all the Classics line of heists are fucking great, except for Counterfeit.

I wish we had more heists like First World Bank. It's like a medium intensity heist, when everything else is either small and light like the H&T Banks or long high intensity gauntlets like Big Bank and Aftershock and pretty much anything else.

>Liking Slaughterhouse but not Counterfeit.
I should cut you

We're missing Heat Street, which is a heavy pushing heist where you run through streets that are slowly filling with cops the further you go, Green Bridge, blowing up a bridge to stop a prison transport so you can extract a prisoner, Diamond Heist, a raid on a corporate diamond vault at the top of a sky scraper during an office party, the first stealth heist, Panic Room, airlifting a vault filled with drugs and money out of a gang den, and No Mercy, the L4D crossover heist where you steal a patients blood for the virus he's carrying to sell it as a biological weapon.

We probably aren't getting No Mercy though.

They should make a heist where you're driving the big box truck from Aftershock, you gotta like drive it down the street, hitting up businesses and such along the way.

Be like a part of town with several banks and jewelry stores and such along the way, but also as you near the edge of town you have less luxurious places to knock over like standard convenience stores and maybe even a crackhouse or meth lab in the bad part of town.

Maybe you'd have to look out for hazards like you encounter in Hoxout Day 1, like spike strips and holes in the road, police cars in your way. Add like a whinch the the truck to pull it out of holes if it gets stuck and have it so you can get air dropped spare tires to change if you run over a spike strip.

According to the games code the Aftershock truck can hold 50 bags we just never have the chance to pack it that full.

>heavy pushing heist where you run through streets that are slowly filling with cops the further you go,
So Hoxout D1?
>blowing up a bridge to stop a prison transport so you can extract a prisoner
A bit like that Hector heist that ends with shooting up a bus full of gangsters on the last day?

And Panic Room sounds kind of like Hotline Miami Day 2 but instead of airlifting you crack the safe open and kill that fucker inside.

That sounds fucking awesome, but I'd be worried about how unoptimized it would be. Hoxout day 1 runs just fine, but shit like Birth of Sky with it's long sightlines and such run like dogshit.

The first half of the heist isn't like Hoxout. It's just a straight run to a mission point. Then you get your "truck" to escort out. Also Green Bridge is more like White X-mas if there were three plane crashes and you had to saw open each plane to find the one with Almir in it, then drag him down a cop infest bridge to an extraction point, then fight the other half way down the bridge to your escape.

>Heat Street
Usually considered the worst Heist from PDTH, but I actually love it for some reason. When you hear Hoxton mention Matt in Hoxout, he's talking about Heat Street, where you have to chase down Matt who was your getaway driver that decided to double cross you. The heist would work almost identically to Hoxton Breakout Day 1, except it's just a straight run to the end, and then a defense section in a construction yard. Then it's an escort for a bit, like White Xmas

>Green Bridge
Honestly, I think it's most like a Transport Heist. You saw open trucks to find the prisoner and once you do, it's basically just working your way through the bridge until you fulton him out.

>Panic Room
A fantastic heist from PDTH, but I think it'd be too easy in Payday 2. I considered it the easiest of PDTH's Heists. They could probably find a way to spice it up, maybe some bullshit way to stealth it or something.

That actually sounds great, how big would the map be?

Anything that's locked behind a dlc end up with a cheater tag, not just maps or weapons.

For skins, it's a bit more tricky since it's only the legendaries that provoke the cheater tag because of the unique weapon mods that comes with it. Using common to epic skins have no common consequences although anyone who is slightly knowledgable about skins will spot you from miles away, even without the red tag

>Panic Room
>A fantastic heist

Okay, pick one and only one. The roof part was just atrocious due to the coding and the constant swarming of the cops. Anyone here is traumatized by this job.

>>Panic Room
Did you manage to clear to roof for Alex?

Those Almir faces make me laugh every time.

Eh it was strange because the way to win with the roof bit was to not go to the roof at all. The cops would not spawn there then. Then have someone sprint solo up and kill the 2 cops that are always there quickly. It will then be completed without turning on the roof spawns.

As big as they could possibly make it?

I unironically think that the voice work in this heist is the best ever
his screams are genuinely disturbing
and he sounds just enough of a plonker that you feel good about it

>Derek Ray
>Not Josh Lenn

Maybe it starts like a normal bank heist, maybe it could be a smaller version of the bank from Election Day, same layout as the important parts, but not in as large of a building, with a loading dock off the side, Bane says your responsible for your own getaway this time, there's a moving company next to the bank and you have to steal one of their trucks to load your haul up. Then you start driving off.

But it turns out the police set a trap for you, they've got blockades set up through town and you need to get a way out, the game puts you on a winding path through town, you pass by a jewelry store to rob with the normal Jew store loot, and as you get further to the edge of town a pawn shop, which has weapons, jewelry, loose items to grab and a safe or two in the back with either money or gold.

Nearing the end you have to escape by getting down into a drainage canal, think the Los Angeles River passing through town, I don't know if there's anything like that in DC but why does geographical accuracy have to matter?

You end up on the rural coast and find a gang hideout, where your truck breaks down conviently outside, in there are gang members, bags of coke and a meth lab. You're now far enough from the police trap that Bain can get a big electromagnet copter in to lift your truck out without being in danger of getting shot down by SWAT van turrets and such. If you want you can stay and cook meth until the truck is full with 50 bags of loot. (The level would be balanced to have exactly 50 bags across all stops including the meth ingredients at the hideout, so there's no reason to skip a place thinking you could fit more meth in)

The jewelry store and pawn shop would be optional stops, but the initial bank heist and the gang hideout at the end are required.

Game could have stuff like those FBI trucks we see on day 2 of the Biker heist being what's chasing you as you make your way down the river and snipers from helicopters.

>anyone who is slightly knowledgable about skins will spot you from miles away, even without the red tag
But how? I have two legit epics (one of which is actually good and I often use) without buying a single drill and a bunch of lower tier skins, some of which I bought.

When you're at the loadout screen in-game, skin unlockers users have their skins flicker on and off like a hummingbird on crack.

It's pretty obvious.

Half the people just quit on the spot when you go "lol nice skin unlocker".

>join a lobby
>shadow raid
>"Silent assassin - blah blah unalerted guards will not trigger pagers when killed"
>mfw

Seriously, what's the rationale for using this mod? It makes stealth a total joke, since the ONLY limiting factor for what makes certain stealth heists difficult is the fact that you cant take out every guard you see

I wasn't aware people didn't like Panic Room, everyone I play with loved it to death. The only Heist from PDTH that I hear almost ANYONE bitching about is Heat Street, which is understandable since it could be totally unfair on higher difficulties.

Is original payday worth playing now that we have the classics heist line?

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Frenzy is more likely so keep the resistane but get somewhat nerfed

>I hear almost ANYONE bitching about is Heat Street

Despite the first part being rushable if you're quick and smart, the escort part can be really traumatizing on Ovk +145 because of how slow it goes and the cops just never stop to deep throat your crew.

Considering the white xmas and Undercover precedent on Payday 2, it should be a lot easier to move matt. Now, if they added swat turrets on every street, that would make things a lot more interesting.

>Frenzy is more likely so keep the resistane but get somewhat nerfed

Good, the original skill was pants-on-head retarded and could only benefit the Muscle perk decks users, if that was worth anything in the first place.

>PSA: Frenzy is officially confirmed that reducing armor damages is intentional.

>What's happening on Frenzy anyway?

>In case you are wondering what I am talking about, Frenzy's damage reduction is working on armors rather than health damages at this moment. /u/OVERKILL_Jules has confirmed it's a bug on this thread [steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/10/358415738189841975/#c358415738193198406]. But recently, OVERKILL_Tobias said it can't be fixed so Frenzy stays as it is [steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/14/358415738214853939/#c358416640401021734] with slight nerf to armor damage reductions.

>They have secretly changed the skill description recently. On current version of your game clients, it no longer says "you take 30% less health damage and..." anymore. This has been done without mentioning in change log. You can check the old skill description at pd2skills.com/ at this moment.

>Why is this happening?

>They have noticed that old Frenzy was causing unintentional spike damage because the damage reduction was calculated before cops actually damages you The game memorizes the final damage they actually dealt to you to make sure a cop shouldn't instagib you because of their fire rate. In result, same type of cops could ignore your invulnerable timer and could hit you over and over in short period of time because every shots of a cop was dealing you higher damage than you took last.

>To fix this issue, they have put Frenzy's damage reduction effect at same part of other damage reduction effects like Underdog or Quickfix. Needless to say, Frenzy's damage reduction effect is applied not just your health but armors because it's essentially same effect of all other damage reduction skills.

My sides. The Frenzy bug has several hilarious LAYERS of incompetence coming together to make it happen.

Absolutely hilarious.
Redditors mad as fuck

It's fun, just don't forget to type "OVREDIRLL ?!?" in the chat of every FWB games you'll join.

The silent assassin shit is like when goonmod had that one glitch where you could just click remove all cops when you killed a guard and therefore not using a pager
it just makes stelf waaaay too easy
Why is overkill not punishing these fuckers

>loud aspect of this game is a mediocre team shooter
>stealth aspect of this game is essentially just waiting for rng to favor you

why do i find this game fun it's literally a bad game

>stealth aspect of this game is essentially just waiting for rng to favor you

get gud, even on Nightclub with the titan cams and the army of thugs in the boss's office, you can get the upper hand. Just practice more.

im not saying i have problems with completing stealth, im saying that stealth lacks meaningful depth and detection is flawed

stealth needs a rework

Especially now that everybody can have cam loops on their stelf builds.

>Why is overkill not punishing these fuckers

No Vac ban, no real punishments. Also devs considers that they don't need to move a finger regarding mods as long as mods don't ruin the experience of pubbies in a negative way.

This. Stealth builds really need to be nerfed. You can have everything needed for all kind of situations (body bags + ecm buffed, silent saws for erection day day two). They're really OP right now.

Since there are no official servers and they're all p2p and user-hosted, every server is the TF2 equivalent of a community server.

If somebody wants to enable sv_cheats, there's zero reason to punish them for it.

Came back to payday and saw that shadow map mod doesn't work anymore...fuck me.
Is there any alternative solution for performance tweak that actually worrk with current version?

The author doesnt update it but some other guy does
steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/15/558754900072879608/?ctp=107

>releasing christmas skins in july

Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Bulldozer (any_25_tank_kills)
- Mellon (voff_4)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

Oh damn just saw it, thx. Was about to commit suicide, but I can postpone it now.

Do I need to own the Wolf Pack for the music to show up in the soundtrack folder?

I don't want to own Wolfpack but I'll be fucked if Three Way Deal and Home Invasion aren't the two most fire tracks in the OST.

There's also Less Effects which is about as good as shadow map and they work together.
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The PD:TH versions of the tracks are available if you bought the PD:TH soundtrack.

The 2016 versions don't seem to be in the soundtrack yet. OVK devs are really fucking slow in updating the soundtrack ever.

Latest tracks I see are: Donacdum, Locke and Load, Drop Zone, and Pimped Out Getaway.

So...I guess that means the soundtrack hasn't been updated even once for 2016. Goddamn.

Source for Pic Related?

... It's for science.

go away redditor

Anyone got links to the mods that makes it so decals and bodies don't disappear so the map is covered in blood, bullet holes and corpses by the end?

pocohud has it

>exhentai.org/s/8a65169f75/555516-136

>netorare tag
>no loli tag
Into the trash.

>summer 2016,
>still no new heister voices update

why even live ?

Dallas got some a few weeks ago, does that count? ;)

>nothing for Jimmy or Bodhi,

go back to twitter, Amlir.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>Jimmy or Bodhi
>relevant

Kill yourself, bitch.

I wouldn't hold your breath. The only reason they were added in the first place was to promote their respective movies. Now that both movies have been out for a while, they don't really have much reason to do anything else with them.

>youtube.com/watch?v=BvBfLuFdAAo

>You crop a motherfucking attitude with me one more time, nigger, and you're all the way gone. Fuck you. I will kick you so hard in the asshole you will taste my shoelaces. I will find where you live, and I will feed you to my fucking dog, you god damned nigger. Don't you ever say shit like that to me again. You think you're hard? Do you think you're hard?! Motherfucker! You ain't shit, you ain't shit! I could fucking execute you where you stand right now, I can make a phone call and kill you, don't you ever fucking talk to me like that again, you motherfucker. You ain't in charge of shit nigger, you're a terrible fucking leader, you need to keep fucking mouth shut for the rest of your god damned life. Not unless somebody tells you to open it so that they can put their cock in your mouth you worthless motherfucker. Yeah that's not the way you handle it when we still have zipties motherfucker, so you can go ahead and die in fires is what you can do, you dumb motherfucker.

Newer heisters always have voice lines for the previously existing ones (e.g. Rust calling Bodhi).

They'll probably do it if they feel like caring whenever they get an opportunity/excuse to bring in the VA for more recordings.

Honestly don't know why they forgot Jimmy or Bodhi though. There was no reason to forget.

why would anyone willingly choose to do go bank instead of one of the bank heist variations

It's not necessarily their decision to make.
While I'm not particularly knowledgeable about how the crossovers went down behind the scenes, I would assume that the movies' distribution companies paid for them to be added for the sake of marketing.
Now both movies are out, and neither of the distributors give a shit about them any more because there's lots of others that they have to market: Overkill would have to pay for anything new out of their own pockets.
Jimmy would probably be particularly affected by this. I imagine they'd have a hard time getting Copley back to voice him again.

True first casual filter of the game, also challenging objectives and achievements and "average" payout.

H&T bank is just too boring.

Plainsrider bow or English Bow for HE arrows ?